I don't believe this story but if it is true it is even a bit more of a worry...lets face it...SE knew for sure he could get Riley if he wanted him (I think it is safe to assume that he knew no other schools were going after him a month ago, we can probably agree on that)Where do people get this crap that "everyone turned us down so we ended up with Riley"? He was SE's #1 target. Do you think SE could have named a coach in 4 days if he was being turned down left and right?ADSE had him on a list from 2005 when he was at South Carolina and they were looking for a coach.That's what I wonder. How did Reilly even get on the radar. Was it another, sh!t, we fired a guy and my short list all said no?When Callahan was hired, I was livid, because I knew, after seeing what he'd done to my Raiders, he'd hurt the program. Bo was hired, almost everyone was excited because he'd been here before, and he wasn't Clownahan. Now they hire Riley, who most of us, when he was hired almost immediately said, "who?"...This. A hire that had people talking about the bold move or move towards getting NU back. Not a quick check of Wikipedia, not hearing how nice he is etc....It's not that we had a chance, many wanted the new HC hiring to be a "WOW", not a "meh"...Do people actually think that NU had a chance to get Harbaugh?
And if the 9ers win a couple more games this year (they lost to the Bears and Raiders!) they are in the playoffs and Harbaugh isn't in Ann Arbor.
This almost seems like a hire that was based on the fact that they didn't know who else they could get, so they got Riley. And if this guy falls flat on his a$$, which I hope he doesn't, everyone can say "at least he was nicer than Bo"...
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12009292/behind-scenes-quiet-search-brought-mike-riley-nebraska-cornhuskersBy Monday morning, Dec. 1, Eichorst said he "was fixed" on Riley, whom Eichorst noticed in 2004 as an associate athletic director at South Carolina while the school searched to replace the retiring Lou Holtz. Steve Spurrier got the job, but Eichorst never forgot the Oregon State coach.
"Trusted sources" and electronic research helped confirm Eichorst's beliefs about Riley. Eichorst did not check with an intermediary. He did not ask permission of Riley's athletic director at Oregon State.
"I recruited my tail off like I've never done before," he said.
Eichorst made the phone call at noon Monday. Their conversation lasted about 30 minutes. Riley showed interest and said he was recruiting in San Francisco.
Minutes after the call ended, Eichorst phoned Perlman, still in the Bay Area but set to fly to Denver in a few hours and stay over before a return to Lincoln on Tuesday to celebrate his wife's birthday.
Eichorst asked Perlman to remain out West.
"I knew what direction Shawn was taking," Perlman said.
Eichorst, after the call to Perlman, booked a ticket to San Francisco. He drove to the Lincoln airport and waited through an hour-long delay.
So the most scrutinized man in Nebraska waited in the lobby, dressed in jeans and a Senior U.S. Open baseball cap -- details reported by the Omaha World-Herald -- and nearly missed his connection in Denver.
Upon arrival in California, Eichorst took a cab to the Hilton San Francisco Union Square. It was after midnight, and he was set to meet Riley at the hotel at 8 a.m. on Tuesday.
They talked most of the morning in Eichorst's room. First, it was just the two of them. Perlman joined the discussion around 9. When the conversation ended, Riley left.
Eichorst looked at Perlman. "I think this is our guy," Eichorst said.
I have no idea what you're arguing against. It was asked where ADSE came up with Riley. I responeded with exactly what you quoted. So I guess we agree.Where do people get this crap that "everyone turned us down so we ended up with Riley"? He was SE's #1 target. Do you think SE could have named a coach in 4 days if he was being turned down left and right?ADSE had him on a list from 2005 when he was at South Carolina and they were looking for a coach.That's what I wonder. How did Reilly even get on the radar. Was it another, sh!t, we fired a guy and my short list all said no?When Callahan was hired, I was livid, because I knew, after seeing what he'd done to my Raiders, he'd hurt the program. Bo was hired, almost everyone was excited because he'd been here before, and he wasn't Clownahan. Now they hire Riley, who most of us, when he was hired almost immediately said, "who?"...This. A hire that had people talking about the bold move or move towards getting NU back. Not a quick check of Wikipedia, not hearing how nice he is etc....It's not that we had a chance, many wanted the new HC hiring to be a "WOW", not a "meh"...Do people actually think that NU had a chance to get Harbaugh?
And if the 9ers win a couple more games this year (they lost to the Bears and Raiders!) they are in the playoffs and Harbaugh isn't in Ann Arbor.
This almost seems like a hire that was based on the fact that they didn't know who else they could get, so they got Riley. And if this guy falls flat on his a$$, which I hope he doesn't, everyone can say "at least he was nicer than Bo"...
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12009292/behind-scenes-quiet-search-brought-mike-riley-nebraska-cornhuskersBy Monday morning, Dec. 1, Eichorst said he "was fixed" on Riley, whom Eichorst noticed in 2004 as an associate athletic director at South Carolina while the school searched to replace the retiring Lou Holtz. Steve Spurrier got the job, but Eichorst never forgot the Oregon State coach.
"Trusted sources" and electronic research helped confirm Eichorst's beliefs about Riley. Eichorst did not check with an intermediary. He did not ask permission of Riley's athletic director at Oregon State.
"I recruited my tail off like I've never done before," he said.
Eichorst made the phone call at noon Monday. Their conversation lasted about 30 minutes. Riley showed interest and said he was recruiting in San Francisco.
Minutes after the call ended, Eichorst phoned Perlman, still in the Bay Area but set to fly to Denver in a few hours and stay over before a return to Lincoln on Tuesday to celebrate his wife's birthday.
Eichorst asked Perlman to remain out West.
"I knew what direction Shawn was taking," Perlman said.
Eichorst, after the call to Perlman, booked a ticket to San Francisco. He drove to the Lincoln airport and waited through an hour-long delay.
So the most scrutinized man in Nebraska waited in the lobby, dressed in jeans and a Senior U.S. Open baseball cap -- details reported by the Omaha World-Herald -- and nearly missed his connection in Denver.
Upon arrival in California, Eichorst took a cab to the Hilton San Francisco Union Square. It was after midnight, and he was set to meet Riley at the hotel at 8 a.m. on Tuesday.
They talked most of the morning in Eichorst's room. First, it was just the two of them. Perlman joined the discussion around 9. When the conversation ended, Riley left.
Eichorst looked at Perlman. "I think this is our guy," Eichorst said.
Saban says hi.I just look at it like this...
It is literally impossible to tell the future and see how a hire will turn out, but what is the best predictor of the future? The past is, even though it's not a guarantee.
Harbaugh's past- taking Stanford from bad to orange bowl winners, taking an NFL team from bad to conference champions and Super Bowl appearances.
Riley's past- taking an abysmal program to an average at best program an failing as an NFL coach. He did have success in the CFL, for whatever that is worth.
Riley very well may outperform Harbaugh, bit if you were laying money down, who would you bet wins a Big Ten Title first? I question your judgment if you would put money down on Riley.
Obviously, we had no shot at Harbaugh, but I believe the Nebraska brand is enough to bring in a coach that has a resume closer to Harbaugh's than Riley, especially if "resources are not an issue" as Eichorst proclaimed. (Starting to question that statement)
Sorry. Probably shouldn't have quoted your post as my response wasn't meant for you.I have no idea what you're arguing against. It was asked where ADSE came up with Riley. I responeded with exactly what you quoted. So I guess we agree.Where do people get this crap that "everyone turned us down so we ended up with Riley"? He was SE's #1 target. Do you think SE could have named a coach in 4 days if he was being turned down left and right?ADSE had him on a list from 2005 when he was at South Carolina and they were looking for a coach.That's what I wonder. How did Reilly even get on the radar. Was it another, sh!t, we fired a guy and my short list all said no?When Callahan was hired, I was livid, because I knew, after seeing what he'd done to my Raiders, he'd hurt the program. Bo was hired, almost everyone was excited because he'd been here before, and he wasn't Clownahan. Now they hire Riley, who most of us, when he was hired almost immediately said, "who?"...This. A hire that had people talking about the bold move or move towards getting NU back. Not a quick check of Wikipedia, not hearing how nice he is etc....It's not that we had a chance, many wanted the new HC hiring to be a "WOW", not a "meh"...Do people actually think that NU had a chance to get Harbaugh?
And if the 9ers win a couple more games this year (they lost to the Bears and Raiders!) they are in the playoffs and Harbaugh isn't in Ann Arbor.
This almost seems like a hire that was based on the fact that they didn't know who else they could get, so they got Riley. And if this guy falls flat on his a$$, which I hope he doesn't, everyone can say "at least he was nicer than Bo"...
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12009292/behind-scenes-quiet-search-brought-mike-riley-nebraska-cornhuskersBy Monday morning, Dec. 1, Eichorst said he "was fixed" on Riley, whom Eichorst noticed in 2004 as an associate athletic director at South Carolina while the school searched to replace the retiring Lou Holtz. Steve Spurrier got the job, but Eichorst never forgot the Oregon State coach.
"Trusted sources" and electronic research helped confirm Eichorst's beliefs about Riley. Eichorst did not check with an intermediary. He did not ask permission of Riley's athletic director at Oregon State.
"I recruited my tail off like I've never done before," he said.
Eichorst made the phone call at noon Monday. Their conversation lasted about 30 minutes. Riley showed interest and said he was recruiting in San Francisco.
Minutes after the call ended, Eichorst phoned Perlman, still in the Bay Area but set to fly to Denver in a few hours and stay over before a return to Lincoln on Tuesday to celebrate his wife's birthday.
Eichorst asked Perlman to remain out West.
"I knew what direction Shawn was taking," Perlman said.
Eichorst, after the call to Perlman, booked a ticket to San Francisco. He drove to the Lincoln airport and waited through an hour-long delay.
So the most scrutinized man in Nebraska waited in the lobby, dressed in jeans and a Senior U.S. Open baseball cap -- details reported by the Omaha World-Herald -- and nearly missed his connection in Denver.
Upon arrival in California, Eichorst took a cab to the Hilton San Francisco Union Square. It was after midnight, and he was set to meet Riley at the hotel at 8 a.m. on Tuesday.
They talked most of the morning in Eichorst's room. First, it was just the two of them. Perlman joined the discussion around 9. When the conversation ended, Riley left.
Eichorst looked at Perlman. "I think this is our guy," Eichorst said.
Don't listen. What if is always conjecture and just the BS side of your brain talking.Anyways, all the "wow" hire discussion would have been moot if SE had fired Bo after the 2013 Iowa game. Then we would have got Chris Peterson and and everyone would have been happy (at least thats what my mind tells me).
Yep. We start winning and quit sh!tting our pants on national tv, things will work themselves out. Get a system and an identity on both sides of the ball, a system and method to get it and a program wide buy in and we will be relevant soon enough.I don't care about if our program isn't considered a "top job" or our national perception isn't what it used to be.
You go out find guys that can play defense, get some road graders up front, you run the ball, mix in some play action, and you knock the crap out of your opponent. Things after that will take care of themselves...
I think we can all agree on the above!I don't care about if our program isn't considered a "top job" or our national perception isn't what it used to be.
You go out find guys that can play defense, get some road graders up front, you run the ball, mix in some play action, and you knock the crap out of your opponent. Things after that will take care of themselves...
You can't follow the NFL very much if you think JH wouldn't be on the short list of desired candidates by every pro team with a vacancy.It will be interesting to see how fast Jim can turn around a struggling Michigan program. Also curious to see if he has the heart to do it. It kind of seems that he only took the Michigan job because there was no other offers from the NFL.