NU Recruiting Coordinator/Staff?

[NUpolo8]

Have we now only set our sights on conference titles. Our goals have always been, since Devaney, National Championships.

If TN can spend near 3 million dollars on recruiting in two years, why can't we. Must not be a rule against it. Recruiting takes money. Like I said, on an equal basis, ours should be higher than just about any major program. We have farther to travel, more expense on flights due short notice if not in a private jet. Everything about recruiting to Nebraska is harder than just about anyone I can think of.

No I am not demanding or expecting MNC or even CC, but this program has the money to recruit on that level. We are not and whom ever the coach is today, or tomorrow is hurt by this attitude.

If recruiting to Nebraska was that impossible, they should never have fired the guy who was pulling better talent then Bo with less money, worse facilities and far more enemies in Nebraska's inner circle than Bo has ever had.

I doubt Callahan would want to come back though.

 

[skersfan]

Polo, I think it is the same idea some have on here. What worked for Nebraska in the 90's will work for us today. We recruit what we need theory.

I do not wan a blank check. I want what we spend to be justified, but find it hard to believe that Bama requires twice as much as us a year and have recruits committing to them when they are in grade school. Very little hard effort for a three time MNC to get in the door so to speak.

Where or what is wrong. You know I value your opinion, we squabble a lot, but it seems both of us have changed in our ideas.

I agree an open wallet is not going to change the attitude of the players, that is coaching, and has been since day one.

But do you truly feel TN and Bama should be spending twice to three times as much as Nebraska for recruiting. We see the results in the their recruiting rankings, I know they mean nothing to some, but they figure into who has won the MNC the last 15 years or so. Top 5 or go home pretty much.

I feel Bo has to get it together this year. Some think he is doing the best job that can be done. I do not agree with that by any means, but if money is held over his head, IE, not hiring Stoops/Zook because they will not sign the check, not saying that was the case, but could have been. Then budget restrictions come into play. Another horse for sure, not trying to move the goal posts here. But it would give a reason for hiring from with in, maybe not the top prospect. Your thoughts.

 

[Junior]

As has already been stated and is common knowledge, Harv has a hard on for Bo, either he wants him to resign, or set him up to fail and be fired.

It is? Care to source that info?

It may be common speculation, but that doesn't mean it is accurate.

 

[skersfan]

Callahan was able to sell the Super Bowl/NFL experience, Also the WCO.

I would welcome him back as the recruiting coordinator in a heart beat!!! The man could get kids to consider Nebraska no question.

 

[Landlord]

Deliberately trying to sabotage something and not providing everything you could or should for it to succeed at a high level are not the same thing so let's stop with the false dichotomy.

 

[74Hunter]

As has already been stated and is common knowledge, Harv has a hard on for Bo, either he wants him to resign, or set him up to fail and be fired.

It is? Care to source that info?

It was discussed ad nauseam in another thread. You also may want to befriend a couple of former players.

It may be common speculation, but that doesn't mean it is accurate.

Fair enough. But when has a boss ever publicly said, "I don't like ________, so I'm going to set him up for failure." I know you're smarter than that, my friend.

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[Junior]

As has already been stated and is common knowledge, Harv has a hard on for Bo, either he wants him to resign, or set him up to fail and be fired.

It is? Care to source that info?

It was discussed ad nauseam in another thread. You also may want to befriend a couple of former players.

It may be common speculation, but that doesn't mean it is accurate.

Fair enough. But when has a boss ever publicly said, "I don't like ________, so I'm going to set him up for failure." I know you're smarter than that, my friend.

Former players? More speculation.

If the boss doesn't like the coach that much, why doesn't he just fire the coach when everyone thought he was going to fire the coach?

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[NUpolo8]

Polo, I think it is the same idea some have on here. What worked for Nebraska in the 90's will work for us today. We recruit what we need theory.

I do not wan a blank check. I want what we spend to be justified, but find it hard to believe that Bama requires twice as much as us a year and have recruits committing to them when they are in grade school. Very little hard effort for a three time MNC to get in the door so to speak.

Where or what is wrong. You know I value your opinion, we squabble a lot, but it seems both of us have changed in our ideas.

I agree an open wallet is not going to change the attitude of the players, that is coaching, and has been since day one.

But do you truly feel TN and Bama should be spending twice to three times as much as Nebraska for recruiting. We see the results in the their recruiting rankings, I know they mean nothing to some, but they figure into who has won the MNC the last 15 years or so. Top 5 or go home pretty much.

I feel Bo has to get it together this year. Some think he is doing the best job that can be done. I do not agree with that by any means, but if money is held over his head, IE, not hiring Stoops/Zook because they will not sign the check, not saying that was the case, but could have been. Then budget restrictions come into play. Another horse for sure, not trying to move the goal posts here. But it would give a reason for hiring from with in, maybe not the top prospect. Your thoughts.

To me, a lot of it is an argument of whatever is convenient. Demographics will tell you that some schools are closer to top level players, therefore making it easier to land them (I guess, never mind there are recruits traveling cross country to play all the time). I would question why you need all that staff when you're -right there-, but that also appears to be an excuse for some as well, as it has been done well here as recently as Bill Callahan without staff like that.

Alabama keeps being brought up by you, and I think the number one reason Alabama recruits better than Nebraska is because it wins and Alabama's coaching staff cares more about recruiting than Nebraska's does. Period. When their head coach is complaining about missing out on recruiting because he had to coach in the BCS Championship game, well it shows a level of intensity and committment to detail that this staff has NEVER shown. At anything.

I'm serious about that last point, think about what one thing this staff is dedicated to and says " above all else, we're doing that well". Is there one? I'd actually love to know it (for real, no snark)

There's a ton of compelling evidence that recruiting and making sure the cupboard is stocked is Alabama's top priority. Bo treated it like an afterthought for too many years. Now that he's realized he's made a critical error, he hypothetically wants his boss to pony up unforseen amounts of money on confidence that he'll get it done? Sorry, hypothetical or not, there ain't a boss in the world who would do that. Especially when past performance by others in the recent pass (again, Callahan got good talent here) proves that to be false.

Is the recruiting class for 2015 seeming to be an improvement? I guess, those things are hard to gauge, but there appears to be a newfound effort to move that cart, so I'm just going to assume there's a pretty good carrot out there.

 

[Landlord]

If the boss doesn't like the coach that much, why doesn't he just fire the coach when everyone thought he was going to fire the coach?

Probably because the situation is bigger than two people and doesn't exist in a vacuum.

 

[74Hunter]

Deliberately trying to sabotage something and not providing everything you could or should for it to succeed at a high level are not the same thing so let's stop with the false dichotomy.

Again, fair enough. Facts are we are not playing on the same plane as Bama, I'll disagree as to the reasons behind it.

 

[Junior]

Deliberately trying to sabotage something and not providing everything you could or should for it to succeed at a high level are not the same thing so let's stop with the false dichotomy.

Again, fair enough. Facts are we are not playing on the same plane as Bama, I'll disagree as to the reasons behind it.

Again, says who? Do you know the amount of non-coaching football staff Nebraska has? I'm not asking for "recruiting staff", because that's now what the Alabama article referenced. More sources and less speculation, please.

 

[74Hunter]

Deliberately trying to sabotage something and not providing everything you could or should for it to succeed at a high level are not the same thing so let's stop with the false dichotomy.

Again, fair enough. Facts are we are not playing on the same plane as Bama, I'll disagree as to the reasons behind it.

Again, says who? Do you know the amount of non-coaching football staff Nebraska has? I'm not asking for "recruiting staff", because that's now what the Alabama article referenced. More sources and less speculation, please.

As I said, I heard it on S&B. If their information is inaccurate and I'm incorrect, then shame on me.

 

[Landlord]

I don't know the amount of non-coaching football staff to the point of giving an actual number, but I know it sure as hell isn't anywhere near Alabama's.

For really, really obvious reasons.

 

[Junior]

I don't know the amount of non-coaching football staff to the point of giving an actual number, but I know it sure as hell isn't anywhere near Alabama's.

For really, really obvious reasons.

That may be true. I really don't know. The point is, no one knows what that 24 number includes. Does it include football video guys? The equipment guys? The grounds crew? The janitor for the football locker room?

Everyone is acting like that means Alabama has 24 football recruiting specific people in their athletic department. That may be true, but isn't necessarily.

 

[The Dude]

As has already been stated and is common knowledge, Harv has a hard on for Bo, either he wants him to resign, or set him up to fail and be fired.

It is? Care to source that info?

It may be common speculation, but that doesn't mean it is accurate.

Why is it when someone plays the common knowledge card, what they're saying is false 99.99% of the time? I don't have any facts to back up that percentage, but it's common knowledge.