OWH Shatel: Relaxing at the Bo Pelini Lounge

[It'sNotAFakeID]

This premise works if no top recruits have ever committed to Nebraska. But that isn't true.

It works regardless of who has committed to Nebraska. In fact, it's more outstanding the more top recruits we actually land. '

But, you're right, Pelini is a douche.

 

[kchusker_chris]

Good article. It's true, Bo does seem to have a weight lifted off his shoulders; either by winning that bowl game or acknowledging some changes that he needed to make; he is much more relaxed and much more open to change.

Will be interesting to see how that plays out in the fall.

I'd say it's because he knows if he didn't get fired after Iowa, he's going to have to do something almost unimaginable to get fired now. That'd make me relaxed to.

 

[74Hunter]

I think part of it is Pelini has learned through his own mistakes how important the recruiting piece is.

So after a DC job at a school two years removed from a BCS title game appearances then another job at a program that played for one, then another dc job at a championship program, and finally six years of running his own program, he's finally learned that he should pay more attention to recruiting?

Quick learner.

Yeah, you're right, he should do things exactly as he always has, don't try anything new, don't change a thing.

Better yet, let's just take him out back to meet the firing squad.

Wow.

The more and more time I spend on message boards, the more I become concerned about the direction of this program, state and nation.

I also understand and agree more and more with Bo's rant after the OSU game.

 

[It'sNotAFakeID]

Good article. It's true, Bo does seem to have a weight lifted off his shoulders; either by winning that bowl game or acknowledging some changes that he needed to make; he is much more relaxed and much more open to change.

Will be interesting to see how that plays out in the fall.

I'd say it's because he knows if he didn't get fired after Iowa, he's going to have to do something almost unimaginable to get fired now. That'd make me relaxed to.

If he thinks he can go out and do what he did post-Iowa and not get fired, he's wrong.

 

[Saunders]

I think part of it is Pelini has learned through his own mistakes how important the recruiting piece is.

So after a DC job at a school two years removed from a BCS title game appearances then another job at a program that played for one, then another dc job at a championship program, and finally six years of running his own program, he's finally learned that he should pay more attention to recruiting?

Quick learner.

Maybe you misunderstood. It's okay--those are mistakes that we constantly make. But maybe it didn't take Pelini that long to figure out that recruiting is more important, but rather how you can best reach the kids you really want to reach. In a constantly changing landscape, it's important to understand the unique aspects of each class, each generation, so that you can better tailor your pitches to your recruits. Perhaps that is what Bo was alluding to there.

Uh yeah,

Or Pelini either didn't think he needed to care about recruiting because he believes he's a genius or he didn't care because the didn't think there was any way he'd be at Nebraska at this point. He'd be so successful that Ohio st or someone would break the bank to get him and we'd all kiss his a$$ out the f'ing door.

Perhaps those could be reasons too.

You sound bitter. Did Bo run over your dog?

 

[NUpolo8]

Even if so Polo, it didnt take Bo 6 years to figure out the importance of recruiting. The perceived trend of the extra emphasis on it-whether deemed successful or not-began a good 3 years ago. Now we're starting to see the results. We've had this discussion before. Sometimes results dont just happen overnight. You have to create a trend. A direction. And stick with the process (god forbid) that you believe in. Now, 3-4 years later, our 2015 class is shaping up as quite special. Already 6, rather highly regarded commits. All 4 stars depending on pub'.

I think there's a difference between the perceived emphasis, and the actual emphasis. The actual emphasis is starting just about now with the 2015 class, and I wouldn't call it "extra". He should have been putting this kind of work in all along. To Bo's credit, I think he's starting to prove all the excuses people made for his efforts in recruiting the first 6 years were patent bullsh#t.

These are both good points. I just ultimately think that Bo didn't give this much effort early in his career because in his mind, he wasn't going to be the coach here in 2014. He was going to be somewhere where the grass was greener.

This is just my opinion as the smartest man on the planet, as endorsed by MO Husker Fan.

 

[NUpolo8]

I think part of it is Pelini has learned through his own mistakes how important the recruiting piece is.

So after a DC job at a school two years removed from a BCS title game appearances then another job at a program that played for one, then another dc job at a championship program, and finally six years of running his own program, he's finally learned that he should pay more attention to recruiting?

Quick learner.

Maybe you misunderstood. It's okay--those are mistakes that we constantly make. But maybe it didn't take Pelini that long to figure out that recruiting is more important, but rather how you can best reach the kids you really want to reach. In a constantly changing landscape, it's important to understand the unique aspects of each class, each generation, so that you can better tailor your pitches to your recruits. Perhaps that is what Bo was alluding to there.

Uh yeah,

Or Pelini either didn't think he needed to care about recruiting because he believes he's a genius or he didn't care because the didn't think there was any way he'd be at Nebraska at this point. He'd be so successful that Ohio st or someone would break the bank to get him and we'd all kiss his a$$ out the f'ing door.

Perhaps those could be reasons too.

You sound bitter. Did Bo run over your dog?

And he stole ALL of my gum.

 

[Saunders]

This premise works if no top recruits have ever committed to Nebraska. But that isn't true.

If you study what the Scout, Rivals, 247, ESPNU, SI, etc... have been saying for a decade, it's possibly been discussed before. But no, it's just as easy to recruit in Nebraska and Minnesota as it is in Texas and Florida. Clearly we just need a harder working coach. Then everything will be roses.

It isn't the 90's anymore. Pretending that all the changes in CFB haven't affected NU seems to be the easy out.

 

[Count 'Bility]

Even if so Polo, it didnt take Bo 6 years to figure out the importance of recruiting. The perceived trend of the extra emphasis on it-whether deemed successful or not-began a good 3 years ago. Now we're starting to see the results. We've had this discussion before. Sometimes results dont just happen overnight. You have to create a trend. A direction. And stick with the process (god forbid) that you believe in. Now, 3-4 years later, our 2015 class is shaping up as quite special. Already 6, rather highly regarded commits. All 4 stars depending on pub'.

I think there's a difference between the perceived emphasis, and the actual emphasis. The actual emphasis is starting just about now with the 2015 class, and I wouldn't call it "extra". He should have been putting this kind of work in all along. To Bo's credit, I think he's starting to prove all the excuses people made for his efforts in recruiting the first 6 years were patent bullsh#t.

These are both good points. I just ultimately think that Bo didn't give this much effort early in his career because in his mind, he wasn't going to be the coach here in 2014. He was going to be somewhere where the grass was greener.

This is just my opinion as the smartest man on the planet, as endorsed by MO Husker Fan.

I agree. I feel that in the 1st couple years, the emphasis on recruiting lacked bigtime, for whatever reason, excused or not. Maybe as a first time HC Bo was spending more time and effort on the current team and his staff in getting the program molded to how he wanted it to work. I dont know. I'm not excusing it either, but it is in the past. And it's showed from both a lack of talent and development standpoint. But I seriously dont think that this extra effort in recruiting is just starting now...........

Even if so Polo, it didnt take Bo 6 years to figure out the importance of recruiting. The perceived trend of the extra emphasis on it-whether deemed successful or not-began a good 3 years ago. Now we're starting to see the results. We've had this discussion before. Sometimes results dont just happen overnight. You have to create a trend. A direction. And stick with the process (god forbid) that you believe in. Now, 3-4 years later, our 2015 class is shaping up as quite special. Already 6, rather highly regarded commits. All 4 stars depending on pub'.

I think there's a difference between the perceived emphasis, and the actual emphasis. The actual emphasis is starting just about now with the 2015 class, and I wouldn't call it "extra". He should have been putting this kind of work in all along. To Bo's credit, I think he's starting to prove all the excuses people made for his efforts in recruiting the first 6 years were patent bullsh#t.

.............but rather, the extra effort and emphasis has been there for a couple years now. It's what you actually do with that effort and emphasis that is constantly being adjusted to find the right combination. As well as continuity and continuing to build the necessary connections with the right high school programs and/or coaches. Them things take time to do as well.

 

[Saunders]

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[Branno]

Even if so Polo, it didnt take Bo 6 years to figure out the importance of recruiting. The perceived trend of the extra emphasis on it-whether deemed successful or not-began a good 3 years ago. Now we're starting to see the results. We've had this discussion before. Sometimes results dont just happen overnight. You have to create a trend. A direction. And stick with the process (god forbid) that you believe in. Now, 3-4 years later, our 2015 class is shaping up as quite special. Already 6, rather highly regarded commits. All 4 stars depending on pub'.

I think there's a difference between the perceived emphasis, and the actual emphasis. The actual emphasis is starting just about now with the 2015 class, and I wouldn't call it "extra". He should have been putting this kind of work in all along. To Bo's credit, I think he's starting to prove all the excuses people made for his efforts in recruiting the first 6 years were patent bullsh#t.

These are both good points. I just ultimately think that Bo didn't give this much effort early in his career because in his mind, he wasn't going to be the coach here in 2014. He was going to be somewhere where the grass was greener.

This is just my opinion as the smartest man on the planet, as endorsed by MO Husker Fan.

I just don't see Bo doing that, even if his plans were to get hired into a different program he wouldn't jeopardize that by failing at Nebraska. Knowing Bo, what is more likely:

A) He was using Nebraska as a stepping stone and planned to leave after X years and so he didn't bother to bring in good recruits, thus screwing himself over when he ended up having to stay, and only recently started trying now that he needs to keep a job

B) He wasn't initially prepared to oversee all the responsibilities of a head coach (including recruiting) and after his first couple of seasons figured it out and simply got better at recruiting?

Occam's razor would side with B.

 

[Mavric]

I agree. I feel that in the 1st couple years, the emphasis on recruiting lacked bigtime, for whatever reason, excused or not. Maybe as a first time HC Bo was spending more time and effort on the current team and his staff in getting the program molded to how he wanted it to work. I dont know. I'm not excusing it either, but it is in the past. And it's showed from both a lack of talent and development standpoint. But I seriously dont think that this extra effort in recruiting is just starting now...........

I think some form of this is most of it. We had a staff full of guys who had more responsibility than they'd had before. Obviously that was Bo's choice but that's how it was. First time HC. Two different first time DCs. After Watson left, first time OC. Assistant coaches who had been GAs. I think it just took some time to get everything figured out. I don't know that they didn't put enough effort into recruiting, but that's possible. They also might not have been targeting the right guys, spending too much time on guys they were never going to get, saying yes to lesser prospects instead of holding out for higher ones, or whatever. And probably not making as many early contacts as they should have while adjusting to new coaching responsibilities. And probably just some good old fashioned bad luck. We had quite a few four star prospects not pan out. For whatever reason, the seemed to be good in high school but didn't work out.

 

[okaive]

Going back to the article.

I am waiting to see two things that were mentioned.

1. Since Bo has said he is taking the punt returns on himself, I am hoping to see an improvement over last year.

2. Going back to a simpler offense. I could have sworn that's what they said during last year's off season, so how would it get anymore simpler?

okay I have 3 things.

3. Like the idea of not deferring and want to see how it goes for the 1st couple of games.

 

[GSG]

Didn't we have some success in the past having two (or even 4) guys back on the punt return?

 

[okaive]

Yes