Receiver Depth

Landlord of Memorial Stadium said:
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Not to give you too much credit LOMS, but good point. That is an aspect of it, Tommy not seeing it. We may be doing a lot more things than Average Joe fan (myself included) is just not seeing. Not just limited to the TE either. I was literally thinking this exact thing about the television view, today while driving. As a fan we do speculate with very little knowledge of what the actual intentions are. Even recently I've struggled with this because I hate to blame players for ugly games like this last weekend, although they are obviously part of the problem. It's just hard to tell how big of a part. What is it we are missing. What are we trying to do that we are not getting done?
One thing is for sure. I'd much rather be the guy that asks questions or tries to figure it out, rather than simply blame and point fingers. Although I do a bit of both.
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The more I learn the more I learn that I don't know anything.

Football is so incredibly complicated and there's such a tremendous amount of thought and work that goes into it by everyone involved that at the end of the day I just have to sit down and admit that I am an outsider with no more than a layman's uneducated opinion about what's going on, and usually along the way I'll form an opinion about something, only to figure out new details at some point that make me realize I was dead wrong.

That fumbled pitch by Newby against Michigan State last year is a perfect example. On the surface it looks like he just failed to make a routine play, completely inexcusable. But then a week ago Hail Varsity writes out an article that goes into how the angle and position of the sun in relation to the stadium is a very real obstacle and how Terrell had the sun right in his eyes, and also went from shade to daylight at the very instant of trying to catch the football, which can't be easy for the best of them.
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That was a great article. I also liked the part about these issues being "correctable". Hope the staff read this and realize that the sun and shadows can negatively effect us at home in certain field positions and plays.

 
I remember a few summers ago, Bo had the New England coach in Lincoln to show our coaches how to use the TE. I had high hopes the light had gone on but apparently Beck has ADD. We have used that position even less since then. Bo needs to have a sit down with his buddy and explain the damage a good TE has done to our offense the last few years.

 
TonyStalloni said:
I remember a few summers ago, Bo had the New England coach in Lincoln to show our coaches how to use the TE. I had high hopes the light had gone on but apparently Beck has ADD. We have used that position even less since then. Bo needs to have a sit down with his buddy and explain the damage a good TE has done to our offense the last few years.
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And you would think Bo as a defensive mind would have even more input on such. He knows what hurts a defense and what's tough to defend. That's why i think our offense has moved in the direction is has. It's tough to defend. But there are some intracacies and specifics that until we can execute them, it's gonna be nothin more than it is now. Jack of all trades, master of none smoke and mirrors show.

 
Count 'Bility said:
TonyStalloni said:
I remember a few summers ago, Bo had the New England coach in Lincoln to show our coaches how to use the TE. I had high hopes the light had gone on but apparently Beck has ADD. We have used that position even less since then. Bo needs to have a sit down with his buddy and explain the damage a good TE has done to our offense the last few years.
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And you would think Bo as a defensive mind would have even more input on such. He knows what hurts a defense and what's tough to defend. That's why i think our offense has moved in the direction is has. It's tough to defend. But there are some intracacies and specifics that until we can execute them, it's gonna be nothin more than it is now. Jack of all trades, master of none smoke and mirrors show.
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our offense tough to defend?........holy crap, we are the masters of 3 and out under Beck!

 
TonyStalloni said:
I remember a few summers ago, Bo had the New England coach in Lincoln to show our coaches how to use the TE. I had high hopes the light had gone on but apparently Beck has ADD. We have used that position even less since then. Bo needs to have a sit down with his buddy and explain the damage a good TE has done to our offense the last few years.
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i do think Beck is part of the problem...he could get his boss run off!

 
TonyStalloni said:
I remember a few summers ago, Bo had the New England coach in Lincoln to show our coaches how to use the TE. I had high hopes the light had gone on but apparently Beck has ADD. We have used that position even less since then. Bo needs to have a sit down with his buddy and explain the damage a good TE has done to our offense the last few years.
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Was going to say this as well. I think Bill was high on Reed at the time and really thought we would see the following year Reed used like Hernandez. That never came to fruition at at. Just like moving McNeil to "adjuster". Unsure if that was Wats initially or Beck who did that, but regardless the TE is an after thought. Not using one, really hurts recruiting a good one to come here IMO.

 
I thought we already had a blame Beck thread going? Receiver depth is also his fault?

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worldsworstoutdoorsman said:
I thought we already had a blame Beck thread going? Receiver depth is also his fault?

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Blaming him for lack of receiver depth is a stretch for me. Now lack of TE play, in his O is on him. I think it also hurts recruiting when a potential guy sees the lack of integration into the system.

Our receivers have been nails the past 2-3 years with Fish. Injuries are killing us. I truly have no idea what injuries happened to Reilly and Burch, but we need them back ASAP. I thought I saw Burch in last week, but could have been mistaken. Hope they are healthy and have been getting into "game shape" so physically they are ready. Not an excuse (well kind of), but it has to hurt our passing game when we have a triage of receivers in the game i.e. guys who are 2's in practice suddenly become 1's in the game with little practice time between QB and WR.

 
lo country said:
worldsworstoutdoorsman said:
I thought we already had a blame Beck thread going? Receiver depth is also his fault?

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Blaming him for lack of receiver depth is a stretch for me. Now lack of TE play, in his O is on him. I think it also hurts recruiting when a potential guy sees the lack of integration into the system.

Our receivers have been nails the past 2-3 years with Fish. Injuries are killing us. I truly have no idea what injuries happened to Reilly and Burch, but we need them back ASAP. I thought I saw Burch in last week, but could have been mistaken. Hope they are healthy and have been getting into "game shape" so physically they are ready. Not an excuse (well kind of), but it has to hurt our passing game when we have a triage of receivers in the game i.e. guys who are 2's in practice suddenly become 1's in the game with little practice time between QB and WR.
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My post was more in regards how far away from the topic the conversation had strayed. Seems like many posters have found the person to blame for when any little thing goes wrong, at least Obama is off the hook now.

 
Interesting that Irons and Tolbert are getting mentioned as getting looks over Kevin Gladney, another young guy with an extra year in the system.

 
Warrior10 said:
Interesting that Irons and Tolbert are getting mentioned as getting looks over Kevin Gladney, another young guy with an extra year in the system.
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I'm also suprised by Gladney. We took him out of michigan and MSU's backyard, both schools that offered him. Thought he would get some looks tonight

 
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This is a legitimate concern.

We ask our WRs to read coverages on the field. In critical situations, it's far from ideal to be running guys who have as little experience as Pierson-El and Hovey, and they ran right into each other.

Honestly, this is worrisome. Kenny's OK, right? Are we going to get Burtch and Reilly back?

 
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