Roughing the Quarterback?

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TaraTony

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Did the NCAA rules once again change as far as roughing the Quarterback? That penalty on the high sack on Brett Smith yesterday, in prior years, is a completely legal tackle. It was closest to being a horsecollar, yet it wasn't. Can anyonoe enlighten me on this? Or was it simply a case for a first game, small conference Referee seeing a tackle that "looks like" it could hurt a player, and calling it a personal foul?

 
It more closely would have resembled an "uneccessary roughness" tackle. He looked like he was trying to snap the guy's neck.

Especially on replay. It was pretty vicious.

Roughing the passer was not the right call.

 
AgMarauder04 said:
It more closely would have resembled an "uneccessary roughness" tackle. He looked like he was trying to snap the guy's neck.

Especially on replay. It was pretty vicious.

Roughing the passer was not the right call.
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It was very vicious but you can still play that way and be within the rules, which Gregory was. I think it was just small conference refs not being used to big time play. Chalk this one up there with calls like Gabbert's forward progress, Suh's Slam, etc.

 
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I don't agree with that call one bit. It removes the quarterback from any responsibility in the situation. Had he not ducked down to avoid the tackle Gregory hits him around the shoulders.

Most officiating crews don't make that call, but the most crews don't call holding on 4th & 1 after not calling it all game.

Overall I thought that crew did a bad job.

 
The crew sucked. My guess is in addition to the BS new targeting rule, ref crews have probably been given the directive to "protect the players" which is such a crap call.

What the hell does that even mean?

That being said, you can't call "intent". Yes, it may suck to have a player make a certain move that makes a previously clean hit into a "dirty" one, but that's what they have to call.

 
knapplc said:
I don't agree with that call one bit. It removes the quarterback from any responsibility in the situation. Had he not ducked down to avoid the tackle Gregory hits him around the shoulders.

Most officiating crews don't make that call, but the most crews don't call holding on 4th & 1 after not calling it all game.

Overall I thought that crew did a bad job.
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That is the thing for me. A qb can too easily draw a penalty by ducking-down. As you said Gregory would've otherwise been shoulderpad height if not for the duck.

That crew was in over their heads.

 
That crew was especially inept. THREE calls overturned? Surprised we weren't called back after the game to review the opening kickoff.

 
They're calling that now ....so aim lower. We're still talking about the non-call where the K-State guy about broke Crouch's neck. I'm okay with protecting the players ,I guess.

 
That's football in 2013. The QB in particular has a tiny strike zone. You grab him by the neck like that, and the refs see it, it'll get called every time.

The thing that surprised me is that they saw it. Initially I thought it was just a really good sack, but in slow motion it was pretty obvious. There were some bad calls in that game, as the video reviews demonstrated, but that was actually an exceptional call by the ref. Not that I agree with the rule.

 
Worst personal foul call I've ever seen.

This wouldn't have been called a penalty in the SEC. There are many reason why Southern football is looking better than elsewhere. The application of "roughing" rules is one of them.

 
This reminded me of one of Tomiche's sacks against K-State. I could have gone either way with this one last night. That's just the way it is now like it or not.

 
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