Roy Manning Hired as Defensive Line Assistant

JJ Husker said:
So, let me get this straight.
There are no longer limits on the number of coaches we can have on staff? Technically, we could have a dedicated coach for each position, each player if we wanted to?
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I think there's a little nuance, there's definitely still a limit on the number of coaches who can recruit. But the coaches that can go actively recruit no longer have to be on-field coaches, and I think the limit of on-field coaches was removed or dramatically increased.
 
Looking at this guy's resume and what Michigan/USC/Oklahoma fans have to say about him, I sure hope this is a case of Rhule doing the same thing on the defensive line that he's doing on the offensive one, bringing in a great recruiter to pair with a great developer, because this guy's actual coaching ability seems to be severely lacking.
 
Lorewarn said:
Looking at this guy's resume and what Michigan/USC/Oklahoma fans have to say about him, I sure hope this is a case of Rhule doing the same thing on the defensive line that he's doing on the offensive one, bringing in a great recruiter to pair with a great developer, because this guy's actual coaching ability seems to be severely lacking.
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If he's been at USC, UCLA, Oklahoma, Michigan, Cincinnati and Washington State, it would seem that he's doing something right to get all those chances. Of course, that is moving around a lot.
 
So he was on Lincoln Riley's staff at OU, then followed him to USC. Then Riley changed DCs, and the new DC replaced the position coaches.

But yeah, sounds like he's another guy who was a strong recruiter but not a strong developer.
 
Mavric said:
If he's been at USC, UCLA, Oklahoma, Michigan, Cincinnati and Washington State, it would seem that he's doing something right to get all those chances. Of course, that is moving around a lot.
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He's obviously a great recruiter.

Was fired from Michigan and USC at least (not sure about Oklahoma), and to go from an AHC of defense position at USC (94th and 121st in defense his two years there) to just an edges coach at SDSU is a hell of a downwards fall as the most recent movement in his career.
 
Lorewarn said:
He's obviously a great recruiter.

Was fired from Michigan and USC at least (not sure about Oklahoma), and to go from an AHC of defense position at USC (94th and 121st in defense his two years there) to just an edges coach at SDSU is a hell of a downwards fall as the most recent movement in his career.
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Not sure it's all that instructive to give position coaches much credit or blame for the overall unit's success or failure. That has a lot more to do with the coordinators and the other players that they don't coach. But if you wanted to, the defenses he was involved with at Oklahoma were pretty stout.

To get the AHC title at a blue blood school is pretty impressive. As @Toe noted, he mainly got replaced at USC because they fired the DC he worked for and the new guy brought in his own guy.

From On3 upon his USC firing:

While it’s not a surprise for a coaching staff to change when a new coordinator is hired, this move does come as something of a shock. Manning has been arguably the program’s best recruiter during his two-year stint with the Trojans, landing a number of impactful edge defenders including Braylan Shelby and DJ Peevy in 2023 and Kameryn Fountain, Elijah Newby and Lorenzo Cowan in 2024, plus several transfer portal additions.

Manning began coaching with USC head coach Lincoln Riley during the 2019 season at Oklahoma. He was one of several assistant coaches Riley brought from Norman to Los Angeles to get things up and running at USC.
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Mavric said:
Not sure it's all that instructive to give position coaches much credit or blame for the overall unit's success or failure. That has a lot more to do with the coordinators and the other players that they don't coach. But if you wanted to, the defenses he was involved with at Oklahoma were pretty stout.

To get the AHC title at a blue blood school is pretty impressive. As @Toe noted, he mainly got replaced at USC because they fired the DC he worked for and the new guy brought in his own guy.

From On3 upon his USC firing:
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We're mostly looking at this the same way, I'm just adding in some assessment from OU/Mich/USC fan commentary that he was mid to awful at the actual coaching part, despite his great recruiting prowess.

There's little to definitively point to and prove he's an awful developer, but there's also more glaringly nothing to point to and prove he's good at it either, the way there is with Geep, Ekeler, Tony White when he got hired, etc.

Reading tea leaves a bit I'm guessing Rhule is approaching this the same way he's approaching the OL with Geep and Teasley.
 
Lorewarn said:
We're mostly looking at this the same way, I'm just adding in some assessment from OU/Mich/USC fan commentary that he was mid to awful at the actual coaching part, despite his great recruiting prowess.

There's little to definitively point to and prove he's an awful developer, but there's also more glaringly nothing to point to and prove he's good at it either, the way there is with Geep, Ekeler, Tony White when he got hired, etc.

Reading tea leaves a bit I'm guessing Rhule is approaching this the same way he's approaching the OL with Geep and Teasley.
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That's fine. But I'm not sure fan commentary is all that objective of a measure.
 
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