Take solace in the fact....

[huskerjack23]

Ingram = Worst Heisman Winner EVER!

5 games of under 100 yards

National Leader in 0 Rushing Stats

0 Doak Walker Awards

0 SEC Player of the Year Awards

But hey he plays for the #1 team in the Nation so he has to be the best right?

oh come on! Don't even come off this way. The rest of the country didn't see the way I saw it, but that doesn't mean I have to insult the winner.

It's not insulting...it's a fact. He wasn't the best player in the country.

No question

 

[SealBeachHusker]

My issue would simply be this. Ingram is not even the top rusher in the SEC...Gerhart is best RB this year, but last year several RB's had more yards...Donald Brown of UConn had over 2,000 to Gerhart's 1,700 this year. What Suh did was not only tops this year by far (he had better stats than whole defensive lines), but his stats were some of the best at his position EVER. Suh missing out on this really is a shame. They need to either create a defensive Heisman award, or simply call the Heisman what it is, the best offensive player on the best team of the year award.

 

[skersfan]

I am disappointed for Suh no question, but really more so for Gerhart. We pretty much knew that Suh did not have a chance. Gerhart is a much better runner than Ingram, was a senior and carried his team most of the year. Losing by only 28 votes was bad, for the effort he put in game after game. He was a lot like Suh, most never saw him play.

Either way they are all damned good kids. It was enjoyable evening watching them and how it turned out.

Suh will get his trophy in April, and the rest will be wishing they had his.

 

[sarge87]

I am disappointed for Suh no question, but really more so for Gerhart. We pretty much knew that Suh did not have a chance. Gerhart is a much better runner than Ingram, was a senior and carried his team most of the year. Losing by only 28 votes was bad, for the effort he put in game after game. He was a lot like Suh, most never saw him play.

Either way they are all damned good kids. It was enjoyable evening watching them and how it turned out.

Suh will get his trophy in April, and the rest will be wishing they had his.

It doesn't help either when PAC 10 games are mostly towards evening here because of the time difference which is worse if you're in an Eastern market, and they are usually competing against the ABC primetime college games.

Also, when people think of the PAC 10, the first thing comes to mind are lazy defenses.

 

[HankNU]

Compare his stats to Larry Phillips in 1994 and Ahman in 1997 and it makes even less sense. They both played on undefeated teams that were playing for the title and they probably didn't even sniff votes those 2 years.

I think both Larry and Ahman were either in the top 5 or near it, but I completely agree with you. Ingram isn't even the second best player on his own team. Crap, probably not even the best player on offense. Suh coming in 4th says a lot about how awesome he is, but it also shows how traditional the Heisman trophy voters are. When I say traditional, I mean stupid.

Who is Larry?

 

[Nexus]

Compare his stats to Larry Phillips in 1994 and Ahman in 1997 and it makes even less sense. They both played on undefeated teams that were playing for the title and they probably didn't even sniff votes those 2 years.

I think both Larry and Ahman were either in the top 5 or near it, but I completely agree with you. Ingram isn't even the second best player on his own team. Crap, probably not even the best player on offense. Suh coming in 4th says a lot about how awesome he is, but it also shows how traditional the Heisman trophy voters are. When I say traditional, I mean stupid.

Who is Larry?

Lawrence (aka Larry)

 

[huskered17]

I am disappointed for Suh no question, but really more so for Gerhart. We pretty much knew that Suh did not have a chance. Gerhart is a much better runner than Ingram, was a senior and carried his team most of the year. Losing by only 28 votes was bad, for the effort he put in game after game. He was a lot like Suh, most never saw him play.

Either way they are all damned good kids. It was enjoyable evening watching them and how it turned out.

Suh will get his trophy in April, and the rest will be wishing they had his.

:yeah

GBR!!!

 

[HankNU]

Compare his stats to Larry Phillips in 1994 and Ahman in 1997 and it makes even less sense. They both played on undefeated teams that were playing for the title and they probably didn't even sniff votes those 2 years.

I think both Larry and Ahman were either in the top 5 or near it, but I completely agree with you. Ingram isn't even the second best player on his own team. Crap, probably not even the best player on offense. Suh coming in 4th says a lot about how awesome he is, but it also shows how traditional the Heisman trophy voters are. When I say traditional, I mean stupid.

Who is Larry?

Lawrence (aka Larry)

 

[Apathy]

That is who usually wins, a guy from the undefeated #1 team. That's what makes Suh coming in 4th so amazing.

I agree here which is bullsh*t. You can't take the record into account because its a team sport and not just one person. I'm sure Ingram wasn't the main person to help Alabama to an undefeated season.

 

[Nexus]

People forget that just 2 years ago Tim Tebow won the Heisman with a 9-4 team. This makes his award the rare instance of it happening. Other than that, the majority of the winners are usually from undefeated or 1 loss teams before bowl games start.

 

[billdozer15]

People forget that just 2 years ago Tim Tebow won the Heisman with a 9-4 team. This makes his award the rare instance of it happening. Other than that, the majority of the winners are usually from undefeated or 1 loss teams before bowl games start.

That was the beginning of the media, namely ESPN having their lips wrapped around Tebow's cack. Its almost pornographic the amount of love this guy gets from the media. I will be waiting for Tebow to have his Tiger Woods moment.

 

[REDSTEEL]

Compare his stats to Larry Phillips in 1994 and Ahman in 1997 and it makes even less sense. They both played on undefeated teams that were playing for the title and they probably didn't even sniff votes those 2 years.

Larry was a sophmore and no one was voting an underclassman on their ballots until Tebow three years ago. Larry was also getting hyped the next year until he took his wall climbing detour. He probably was the best player that year which is the biggest shame. <_<