The Schism

strigori

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As time moves on, it becomes more and more apparent that there is a rift in the Nebraska fan base that has become an infected wound. It is readily apparent that there is a group of 'fans' that hope,beg and pray for bad things to happen to the team. The venom these people spew goes beyond criticism, they are venturing into hate, of the team they claim to love. This even goes into former players. Listening to Broderick Thomas today, and the hate he had at the staff is disturbing.

The origin of the schism is easy to spot. The coaching change prior to the 2004 season. Some took the firing of Solich as almost a personal attack. I'm not here to debate the right or wrong of it, just the origin of the split in the fan base. I honestly believe that some of these people would not have been happy with anyone, the loyalty they had to the old staff was that great. Others wanted Solich gone, but did't get who they wanted, so they are unhappy.

With the losses of the 2004 season, many of these people were already screaming "I told you so!" Some seem to feel that the loss of the option somehow defiled the program itself. The option wasn't always the identity of the team. Run first, perhaps, option, no. The option didn't get installed until Osborne couldn't beat it with OU running it.

The venom has gotten worse with ever little thing that doesn't happen perfectly. Wins are not enough. They must be dominating. Getting to thresholds that we hadn't seen in years was deemed a cop-out. Anyone happy with that was an apologist, and accepting mediocrity. Any year without a National Championship would be deemed a failure. Osborne had 22 years of failure with this standard.

The truth is, this program has been mediocre following the beat down at Colorado. The aura was blown off the N following that game, and has never recovered. 6-6 in 2002 is easy proof. Getting the doors blown off vs every good team in 2003 is more. The program is still spinning from the fear being broken.

This has happened to every team at some point. If you look at the power programs of the 1990s, most of them have all fallen of what can be considered hard times. Florida State, Michigan, Miami and all down. Florida had a small drop but has recovered. In the conference Colorado, Kansas State and Texas A&M have all missed bowls. I know this comparison will draw the line "But THIS is Nebraska!! We are immune to this!" But apparently not, as much as we wish it were true. Parity and retirement of legends effect everyone.

Now we come to this season. The venom coming after the USC blow out was bad, some of the worst I ever remember seeing. Then comes the Ball State game. Horrible defensive play and a near loss vs a middling opponent has split the fan base to a chasm.

This chasm is not healthy for the program. The fans can feel it, the players can feel it. The players can see the venom. They read the papers. They listen to the radio. They watch TV. They have the internet. Hell, it wouldn't come as a shock to me if there were current players who were members of this very forum. They know what some people say about them. The fans booed the players at the game.

After listening to the blackshirt round table today, the idea that the players do not believe in what the defensive coaches are trying to teach is easy to understand. If every time I turned around I heard and saw people didn't even know criticizing my every move, calling my bosses idiots, and demanding they be fired, it would sit in the back of my mind. And with any flaw in my work, it would come to the forefront. And if things were not working, I would begin to doubt to them as well.

We expect the team to play as one, to be as one, and we as a fanbase cant even root for them as one. There are some deep problems with the programs at the moment, and it is not entirely the coaches. We as Nebraska fans like to call ourselves 'The Greatest Fans on Earth'. But we have not behaved like The Greatest Fans on Earth since the Colorado beat down. We have behaved like every other team's fanbase. And we wonder, why have we become like everyone else. Maybe we need a long hard look in the mirror before answering this question.

 
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Absolutely correct; thank you.

This isn't about "you're right, I'm wrong, I predicted these players and this coach would suck and I've never thought they would do much, see, told you so" or vice versa. This isn't about accepting mediocrity versus pretending to be lone beacons of light who shoot for true greatness. This team deserves more support from these people who call themselves fans, hands down.

 
As time moves on, it becomes more and more apparent that there is a rift in the Nebraska fan base that has become an infected wound. It is readily apparent that there is a group of 'fans' that hope,beg and pray for bad things to happen to the team. The venom these people spew goes beyond criticism, they are venturing into hate, of the team they claim to love. This even goes into former players. Listening to Broderick Thomas today, and the hate he had at the staff is disturbing.

The origin of the schism is easy to spot. The coaching change prior to the 2004 season. Some took the firing of Solich as almost a personal attack. I'm not here to debate the right or wrong of it, just the origin of the split in the fan base. I honestly believe that some of these people would not have been happy with anyone, the loyalty they had to the old staff was that great. Others wanted Solich gone, but did't get who they wanted, so they are unhappy.

With the losses of the 2004 season, many of these people were already screaming "I told you so!" Some seem to feel that the loss of the option somehow defiled the program itself. The option wasn't always the identity of the team. Run first, perhaps, option, no. The option didn't get installed until Osborne couldn't beat it with OU running it.

The venom has gotten worse with ever little thing that doesn't happen perfectly. Wins are not enough. They must be dominating. Getting to thresholds that we hadn't seen in years was deemed a cop-out. Anyone happy with that was an apologist, and accepting mediocrity. Any year without a National Championship would be deemed a failure. Osborne had 22 years of failure with this standard.

The truth is, this program has been mediocre following the beat down at Colorado. The aura was blown off the N following that game, and has never recovered. 6-6 in 2002 is easy proof. Getting the doors blown off vs every good team in 2003 is more. The program is still spinning from the fear being broken.

This has happened to every team at some point. If you look at the power programs of the 1990s, most of them have all fallen of what can be considered hard times. Florida State, Michigan, Miami and all down. Florida had a small drop but has recovered. In the conference Colorado, Kansas State and Texas A&M have all missed bowls. I know this comparison will draw the line "But THIS is Nebraska!! We are immune to this!" But apparently not, as much as we wish it were true. Parity and retirement of legends effect everyone.

Now we come to this season. The venom coming after the USC blow out was bad, some of the worst I ever remember seeing. Then comes the Ball State game. Horrible defensive play and a near loss vs a middling opponent has split the fan base to a chasm.

This chasm is not healthy for the program. The fans can feel it, the players can feel it. The players can see the venom. They read the papers. They listen to the radio. They watch TV. They have the internet. Hell, it wouldn't come as a shock to me if there were current players who were members of this very forum. They know what some people say about them. The fans booed the players at the game.

After listening to the blackshirt round table today, the idea that the players do not believe in what the defensive coaches are trying to teach is easy to understand. If every time I turned around I heard and saw people didn't even know criticizing my every move, calling my bosses idiots, and demanding they be fired, it would sit in the back of my mind. And with any flaw in my work, it would come to the forefront. And if things were not working, I would begin to doubt to them as well.

We expect the team to play as one, to be as one, and we as a fanbase cant even root for them as one. There are some deep problems with the programs at the moment, and it is not entirely the coaches. We as Nebraska fans like to call ourselves 'The Greatest Fans on Earth'. But we have not behaved like The Greatest Fans on Earth since the Colorado beat down. We have behaved like every other team's fanbase. And we wonder, why have we become like everyone else. Maybe we need a long hard look in the mirror before answering this question.
stigori you hit the nail on the head.

I don't know squat about Solich vs. Callahan and don't care who is "right". I do see a once great football tradition fall on hard times and the fans fall with it.

Before the SC game I heard a lot of smack about how "arrogant" USC fans are. Well, we are. A popular t-shirt worn on SC campus says, "At USC we are not stuck up, we're just better than everyone else" Thats arrogant! You want to hear another example of arrogance, "We are Nebraska" Thats arrogant.

Do you really think you are so self rightesously smug that you are immune to down years. That, God forbid, you just may be average? Lets hate all the ESPN reporters and everyone else who says you are average. We are not average, "We are Nebraska". We have our rose colered glasses to protect us.

Poor old Poohbear comes in with a little dose of reality, sprinkled with some negativity, and he is skewered. He just pointed out SC is pretty good, and Nebraska didn't match up quite as well. Boy, that didn't go over well. KILL THE MESSENGER. We like living in our football version of The Emporer's New Clothes.

Now you are devouring each other. It makes me sad. There has been a noticable decline in this board's posts since I joined in April.

You ask, what do you know about what we are going through? Well I'll tell you. I lived through our own version of what you are going through now. For 15 YEARS we wallowed in mediocrity. We lost at home to Memphis State, a school that doesn't even have a football team now. We were 3-8 that year. 3-8! I know what its like. Constructive criticizm yes, tearing each other apart and someone declaring themself some kind of "god" is pathetic.

You are better than this. You are a champion tradition. Be angry, vent, whatever, but keep it between the lines. This has gotten way to personal and irrational. After all you are family and you are Nebraska!

GBR

 
redundant.
I thought it was an excellent post. The venom spewers are coming out of the woodwork now that there is some adversity. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that everything is hunky dory, but it seems that some have been just waiting for something to give them reason to completely go off and now they have it. There are some things that need to be adjusted, but all the venom spewing is bad news. I think this team is still very capable of doing some good things if they get it straightened out.

 
As time moves on, it becomes more and more apparent that there is a rift in the Nebraska fan base that has become an infected wound. It is readily apparent that there is a group of 'fans' that hope,beg and pray for bad things to happen to the team. The venom these people spew goes beyond criticism, they are venturing into hate, of the team they claim to love. This even goes into former players. Listening to Broderick Thomas today, and the hate he had at the staff is disturbing.

The origin of the schism is easy to spot. The coaching change prior to the 2004 season. Some took the firing of Solich as almost a personal attack. I'm not here to debate the right or wrong of it, just the origin of the split in the fan base. I honestly believe that some of these people would not have been happy with anyone, the loyalty they had to the old staff was that great. Others wanted Solich gone, but did't get who they wanted, so they are unhappy.

With the losses of the 2004 season, many of these people were already screaming "I told you so!" Some seem to feel that the loss of the option somehow defiled the program itself. The option wasn't always the identity of the team. Run first, perhaps, option, no. The option didn't get installed until Osborne couldn't beat it with OU running it.

The venom has gotten worse with ever little thing that doesn't happen perfectly. Wins are not enough. They must be dominating. Getting to thresholds that we hadn't seen in years was deemed a cop-out. Anyone happy with that was an apologist, and accepting mediocrity. Any year without a National Championship would be deemed a failure. Osborne had 22 years of failure with this standard.

The truth is, this program has been mediocre following the beat down at Colorado. The aura was blown off the N following that game, and has never recovered. 6-6 in 2002 is easy proof. Getting the doors blown off vs every good team in 2003 is more. The program is still spinning from the fear being broken.

This has happened to every team at some point. If you look at the power programs of the 1990s, most of them have all fallen of what can be considered hard times. Florida State, Michigan, Miami and all down. Florida had a small drop but has recovered. In the conference Colorado, Kansas State and Texas A&M have all missed bowls. I know this comparison will draw the line "But THIS is Nebraska!! We are immune to this!" But apparently not, as much as we wish it were true. Parity and retirement of legends effect everyone.

Now we come to this season. The venom coming after the USC blow out was bad, some of the worst I ever remember seeing. Then comes the Ball State game. Horrible defensive play and a near loss vs a middling opponent has split the fan base to a chasm.

This chasm is not healthy for the program. The fans can feel it, the players can feel it. The players can see the venom. They read the papers. They listen to the radio. They watch TV. They have the internet. Hell, it wouldn't come as a shock to me if there were current players who were members of this very forum. They know what some people say about them. The fans booed the players at the game.

After listening to the blackshirt round table today, the idea that the players do not believe in what the defensive coaches are trying to teach is easy to understand. If every time I turned around I heard and saw people didn't even know criticizing my every move, calling my bosses idiots, and demanding they be fired, it would sit in the back of my mind. And with any flaw in my work, it would come to the forefront. And if things were not working, I would begin to doubt to them as well.

We expect the team to play as one, to be as one, and we as a fanbase cant even root for them as one. There are some deep problems with the programs at the moment, and it is not entirely the coaches. We as Nebraska fans like to call ourselves 'The Greatest Fans on Earth'. But we have not behaved like The Greatest Fans on Earth since the Colorado beat down. We have behaved like every other team's fanbase. And we wonder, why have we become like everyone else. Maybe we need a long hard look in the mirror before answering this question.
stigori you hit the nail on the head.

I don't know squat about Solich vs. Callahan and don't care who is "right". I do see a once great football tradition fall on hard times and the fans fall with it.

Before the SC game I heard a lot of smack about how "arrogant" USC fans are. Well, we are. A popular t-shirt worn on SC campus says, "At USC we are not stuck up, we're just better than everyone else" Thats arrogant! You want to hear another example of arrogance, "We are Nebraska" Thats arrogant.

Do you really think you are so self rightesously smug that you are immune to down years. That, God forbid, you just may be average? Lets hate all the ESPN reporters and everyone else who says you are average. We are not average, "We are Nebraska". We have our rose colered glasses to protect us.

Poor old Poohbear comes in with a little dose of reality, sprinkled with some negativity, and he is skewered. He just pointed out SC is pretty good, and Nebraska didn't match up quite as well. Boy, that didn't go over well. KILL THE MESSENGER. We like living in our football version of The Emporer's New Clothes.

Now you are devouring each other. It makes me sad. There has been a noticable decline in this board's posts since I joined in April.

You ask, what do you know about what we are going through? Well I'll tell you. I lived through our own version of what you are going through now. For 15 YEARS we wallowed in mediocrity. We lost at home to Memphis State, a school that doesn't even have a football team now. We were 3-8 that year. 3-8! I know what its like. Constructive criticizm yes, tearing each other apart and someone declaring themself some kind of "god" is pathetic.

You are better than this. You are a champion tradition. Be angry, vent, whatever, but keep it between the lines. This has gotten way to personal and irrational. After all you are family and you are Nebraska!

GBR
Thanks tarheel there are alot of people that need to move on and just support the team. They really need us to be there for them this Saturday, but I have a feeling they will be playing PISSED!!!!

 
No argument there. It's not easy moderating all of these posts with such a large gap between pro and con issues. And no one especially the admin/mods want to start becoming board bouncers and slamming more and more members for pushing the envelope too far. Seems like too many posts are just arguing the same thing but different threads without any give and take. ;) It's becoming easier looking forward to work and sick people(nurse :) ) than reading more and more he said this, I think that. blah blah blah. It's tough watching this happen to Husker fans who all truly love their team.

GBR

 
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Great posts by Strigori and Tarheel Trojan. A historical perspective and that of an outsider giving the national viewpoint. As I've said before this is a LARGE fanbase and not everyone is going to see eye to eye. I think everyone wants the same thing: a winning team.

There's still a lot of football to be played this season and I look forward to the team bouncing back.

 
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