Wisconsin 10-year talent/success (chart)
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Kiyoat Husker
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Just a little perspective on our next opponent.
a look at the talent on the roster vs success under different coaches for Wisconsin.
talent is calculated as a 3-way average for the recruiting rankings in the previous 4 years for each year.
rank is a 3-way average of the final ranking of the AP, Coaches and CCR polls (last one is Congrove Computer Rankings).
debate my methods if you want, but I think when you are looking at long-term trends, we have a good picture of what is going on.
a look at the talent on the roster vs success under different coaches for Wisconsin.
talent is calculated as a 3-way average for the recruiting rankings in the previous 4 years for each year.
rank is a 3-way average of the final ranking of the AP, Coaches and CCR polls (last one is Congrove Computer Rankings).
debate my methods if you want, but I think when you are looking at long-term trends, we have a good picture of what is going on.
Kiyoat Husker
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yeah, I can put that in there, but sometimes the more lines on a graph the harder it is to read.
Kiyoat Husker
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StPaulHusker
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Kiyoat Husker
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thanks! I think it at least shows us the talent gap, and the fact that we could potentially be dominating this series with the right coach/scheme/system.
Kiyoat Husker
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I thought I would hold back any analysis of this graph to see if anyone else had insights. I guess I over-estimated an interest-level in Wisconsin considering the massive malaise we are all experiencing now. Understandable.
Well, looking at this graph, one thing that stands out to me is the gradual decrease in talent on Bielema's teams. His frustration in trying to improve recruiting comes to mind. If I remember right, he wanted to pay his assistants more competitive salaries in order to keep the best coaches (and recruiters) on staff. It is hard to evaluate trends with Andersen based on only two seasons, but he also was frustrated with the limits of recruiting in terms of academic standards IIRC.
Another Interesting thing is Bert's on-field results in the early part of his tenure. First year success, followed by a two-year nose-dive. the three-year trend looks rather disturbing, not knowing the success he was to have in the following three years. Alvarez stuck with him, and was rewarded.
I'm not making a comment on Nebraska based on that, but I do think that "down years" happen everywhere. Sh1t happens sometimes.
538 did an analysis of which teams have outperformed their recruiting rankings over the past ten years and Wisconsin finished first out of P5 teams. Oregon State finished fourth.
My prediction is that Wisconsin will fall and Nebraska will rise in these categories.
My prediction is that Wisconsin will fall and Nebraska will rise in these categories.
Yes they do happen most places, the definition of down years mean different things at different schools. A 6-6 or 7-5 record at Wisconsin is a down year. To many at Nebraska that is cause for firing the coach. At Alabama right now a 10-2 season is considered down. A 9-3 season would be downright unbearable.I thought I would hold back any analysis of this graph to see if anyone else had insights. I guess I over-estimated an interest-level in Wisconsin considering the massive malaise we are all experiencing now. Understandable.
Well, looking at this graph, one thing that stands out to me is the gradual decrease in talent on Bielema's teams. His frustration in trying to improve recruiting comes to mind. If I remember right, he wanted to pay his assistants more competitive salaries in order to keep the best coaches (and recruiters) on staff. It is hard to evaluate trends with Andersen based on only two seasons, but he also was frustrated with the limits of recruiting in terms of academic standards IIRC.
Another Interesting thing is Bert's on-field results in the early part of his tenure. First year success, followed by a two-year nose-dive. the three-year trend looks rather disturbing, not knowing the success he was to have in the following three years. Alvarez stuck with him, and was rewarded.
I'm not making a comment on Nebraska based on that, but I do think that "down years" happen everywhere. Sh1t happens sometimes.
I remember those early years for BB at Wisconsin. For some reason I watched a lot of those games, they lost a lot of close games in those years.
Should be an interesting game on Saturday. I don't know what to expect from either team.
