huskered17
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I think Ind and ILL come over to the Legends, when it is finally set up.
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What I think our Divisions should look like
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akita
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This looks to be pretty good. It means by most years. Ohio St/Michigan final game will determine who goes to the Big 10 championship game. Kick Iowa out and insert Nebraska/Wisconsin final game of the year.
GM_Tood
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HuskerHacker
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What I'd expect is this:
Whisky to the "Legends"
Rutgers and Maryland to the "Leaders"
Cross rivalries remain.
then a 6 year, 2 team rotation between the remaining cross division:
So....
2014 and 15
Penn St (cross rivalry) Rutgers and Purdue
2016 and 17
Penn St, Indiana and Maryland
2018 and 19
Penn State, Ohio St and Illinios
and then repeat the process.
The down side to this is the (Whisky vs tOSU) as well as the (tOSU vs Huskers) games wouldn't occur as often but... there stands a chance of meeting every year in the championship. Also, "the" game for the BIG is now and will always be "Mich vs tOSU"... the way it currently is these two teams could possibly play back to back games and I'm not sure the BIG wants that so one might speculate that Mich moves to the Leaders and Illinios moves to the Legends..
That places Michigan and Ohio State in one division and Nebraska and Wisconsin in the other division. It would also open the door for MSU and Michigan to play for the title in the BIG Championship and that has to be something that both schools would like, yes?
So the 2014 schedule could look like this:
Florida Atlantic
Fresno State
Miami
Leaders - Rutgers
Leaders - Purdue
Legends - Whisky
Legends - Minn
Legends - Mich St
Cross Rivalry - Penn St
Legends - Northwestern
Legends - Michigan (or Illinios if changed but doubtful)
Legends - Iowa
Championship Game
Whisky to the "Legends"
Rutgers and Maryland to the "Leaders"
Cross rivalries remain.
then a 6 year, 2 team rotation between the remaining cross division:
So....
2014 and 15
Penn St (cross rivalry) Rutgers and Purdue
2016 and 17
Penn St, Indiana and Maryland
2018 and 19
Penn State, Ohio St and Illinios
and then repeat the process.
The down side to this is the (Whisky vs tOSU) as well as the (tOSU vs Huskers) games wouldn't occur as often but... there stands a chance of meeting every year in the championship. Also, "the" game for the BIG is now and will always be "Mich vs tOSU"... the way it currently is these two teams could possibly play back to back games and I'm not sure the BIG wants that so one might speculate that Mich moves to the Leaders and Illinios moves to the Legends..
That places Michigan and Ohio State in one division and Nebraska and Wisconsin in the other division. It would also open the door for MSU and Michigan to play for the title in the BIG Championship and that has to be something that both schools would like, yes?
So the 2014 schedule could look like this:
Florida Atlantic
Fresno State
Miami
Leaders - Rutgers
Leaders - Purdue
Legends - Whisky
Legends - Minn
Legends - Mich St
Cross Rivalry - Penn St
Legends - Northwestern
Legends - Michigan (or Illinios if changed but doubtful)
Legends - Iowa
Championship Game
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TGHusker
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I say move Wiscy & Illinois to legends - move Michigan to leaders. End the cross div rival game. this allows the sacred OSU/Mich game to continue. I think Huskers and Wisky will develop a natural rivalry - call it the Big Red Trophy. Our trophy game wt Iowa will be one sided for many years to come.
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Group 1
Nebraska
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minny
Group 2
Michigan
MSU
Northwestern
Illinios
Group 3
Ohio State
Indiana
UVA (or whatever other team we get)
UNC (or whatever other team we get)
Group 4
PSU
Rutgers
Maryland
purdue
9 conf games per year. group 1 and 2 play each other for 2 years, with each school have one protected corssover per group (for groups 3 and 4). Every 2 years, they change to another group and play 2 protect corssovers (from other two groups they arent paired up for that year).
Essentailly 4 protected cross overs, and play the other 9 teams twice every 6 years.
Our schedule for year one and two...
Play all of group 1 and 2 teams, plus one prtected crossover from group 3 and 4 (PSU and OSU)
Our schedule for year 3 and 4....
Play all of group 1 and 3 teams, plus one protected crossover from group 2 and 4 (NW and OSU)
Our schedule for year 5 and 6....
Play all of group 1 and 4 teams, plus one protected crossover from group 2 and 3 (NW and PSU)
Nebraska
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minny
Group 2
Michigan
MSU
Northwestern
Illinios
Group 3
Ohio State
Indiana
UVA (or whatever other team we get)
UNC (or whatever other team we get)
Group 4
PSU
Rutgers
Maryland
purdue
9 conf games per year. group 1 and 2 play each other for 2 years, with each school have one protected corssover per group (for groups 3 and 4). Every 2 years, they change to another group and play 2 protect corssovers (from other two groups they arent paired up for that year).
Essentailly 4 protected cross overs, and play the other 9 teams twice every 6 years.
Our schedule for year one and two...
Play all of group 1 and 2 teams, plus one prtected crossover from group 3 and 4 (PSU and OSU)
Our schedule for year 3 and 4....
Play all of group 1 and 3 teams, plus one protected crossover from group 2 and 4 (NW and OSU)
Our schedule for year 5 and 6....
Play all of group 1 and 4 teams, plus one protected crossover from group 2 and 3 (NW and PSU)
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akita
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Group one: top heavy group2: Toughest of the bunch. Group 3: Ohio St does not lose that group until way after i die and I plan on living another35 years. Group 4: race to 5 wins wins it/lol. Remember PSU is going under for a long time. Dang that was surreal realizing I probably have lived over half my life.
Always liked that format for a 16 team conference. Many say it's too complicated, but it's the simplest way to prevent long term competitive imbalance in such a large conference.
The grouping would definitely need adjusting depending on what the other 2 teams end up being. (hopefully good eastern football teams like VT, Georgia Tech, or Florida State) Then it would be easy to just throw all 4 new teams in one group.
Group 1:
Rutgers
Maryland
New team A
New team B
Group 2:
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Iowa
Nebraska
Group 3:
Michigan
Michigan St
NW
Illinois
Group 4:
tOSU
PSU
Indiana
Purdue
flatwaterfan
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I had a similiar thought in determining conference schedules at Big 10 media days. You could go to 2 7 team divisions geographically aligned with a 9 game conference schedule. Play the 6 teams in your division plus 1 protected cross divisional game. Do that schedule ahead of time. Then do a lottery draw on the other 2 cross division games. Make the lottery picks a big event like the draft. Do it in July.
Also like WaHuskers pod scheme for 16 teams.
I think a 9 game schedule is going to be the mandate and I think the commissioner is going to say that the new tv revenues will more than make up for the loss of a home game every year. I think we will end up scheduling 2 cupcake homegames and the third will be a marque home&home series.
They should think about scheduling one of the cupcakes the week prior to Thanksgiving similar to the $EC. Gives you a 'break' without it being a 'break'. Also would be helpful to do that before the short week. Would also bump up some of our conference games a week earlier in the fall where you get nicer weather which could be helpful to recruiting.
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flatwaterfan
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That would make things easier, but I do like the competitive balance in the current scheme. Moving Illinois would keep that and it would be somewhat geographically aligned for the most part.
Muck
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Because the B1G didn't want to repeat the mistake of the Big 12 north. A small market ghettoized western division is not a good idea for the long term health of member schools.
If the B1G stays at 14 for awhile I'd prefer pods to mitigate the problems inherent in a 2x7 league (namely rarely facing traditional opponents).
Fixed pods:
Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana
TSUN, Sparty, Northwestern, Purdue
Floating pods:
Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota
PSU, Maryland, Rutgers
Each team in the fixed pods would have a single locked opponent from the opposing pod:
Ohio State - TSUN
Wisconsin - Sparty
Illinois - Northwestern
Indiana -Purdue
That would allow Nebraska to have a home & home with each team in the league every four years:
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akita
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I might and probably missing something here. Who is TSUN?Because the B1G didn't want to repeat the mistake of the Big 12 north. A small market ghettoized western division is not a good idea for the long term health of member schools.
If the B1G stays at 14 for awhile I'd prefer pods to mitigate the problems inherent in a 2x7 league (namely rarely facing traditional opponents).
Fixed pods:
Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana
TSUN, Sparty, Northwestern, Purdue
Floating pods:
Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota
PSU, Maryland, Rutgers
Each team in the fixed pods would have a single locked opponent from the opposing pod:
Ohio State - TSUN
Wisconsin - Sparty
Illinois - Northwestern
Indiana -Purdue
That would allow Nebraska to have a home & home with each team in the league every four years: