All time top NU QBs

knapplc said:
It speaks volumes about Martinez that we're not comparing him to any of our second-tier quarterbacks. When the comparison conversation comes up, it's always how he compares to the best ever at Nebraska.

Where he stands on that list is a matter of opinion, but with his senior season still to play, he's already in the conversation of top-five QBs.
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Which is kind of sad considering he's likely not even in the top 10 QBs this season. I think the fact that he's broken so many career records seems to automatically vault him to the top - but I think any number of past QBs leading this offense would be equal or better.

 
suh_fan93 said:
In the big games that Nebraska has needed to turn the corner Martinez was no where to be found all the while fumbling, bumbling and throwing incredibly untimed interceptions while doing it. He's piled on the stats that naturally come with being the starter for 3 years.
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Big games like Ohio State 2011, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Penn State and Michigan State? Or are you only focusing on the losses, where the defense gave up 50+ points per game?

It's flat silly to blame Martinez for our losses. He threw most of his picks when he was forced to throw the ball because the defense couldn't stop anyone. He has fumble issues and he has pocket-awareness issues, but there isn't a QB on your list of "preferred" players that didn't have issues.

And LOL at Crouch not being good enough for you.

 
knapplc said:
suh_fan93 said:
In the big games that Nebraska has needed to turn the corner Martinez was no where to be found all the while fumbling, bumbling and throwing incredibly untimed interceptions while doing it. He's piled on the stats that naturally come with being the starter for 3 years.
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Big games like Ohio State 2011, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Penn State and Michigan State? Or are you only focusing on the losses, where the defense gave up 50+ points per game?

It's flat silly to blame Martinez for our losses. He threw most of his picks when he was forced to throw the ball because the defense couldn't stop anyone. He has fumble issues and he has pocket-awareness issues, but there isn't a QB on your list of "preferred" players that didn't have issues.

And LOL at Crouch not being good enough for you.
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I don't think you can blame Martinez for our losses - but games like 2011 Wisconsin, or Washington 2.0 in 2010, or UCLA 2012...those were games were we would have needed to 'overcome' Martinez in order to win. He didn't lose them, but we certainly would have needed to win despite him.

 
kchusker_chris said:
knapplc said:
It speaks volumes about Martinez that we're not comparing him to any of our second-tier quarterbacks. When the comparison conversation comes up, it's always how he compares to the best ever at Nebraska.

Where he stands on that list is a matter of opinion, but with his senior season still to play, he's already in the conversation of top-five QBs.
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Which is kind of sad considering he's likely not even in the top 10 QBs this season. I think the fact that he's broken so many career records seems to automatically vault him to the top - but I think any number of past QBs leading this offense would be equal or better.
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Tommie Frazier was never a top ten quarterback, either. In fact, have any of our top quarterbacks ever been in the top ten, or even the top 25 in the NCAA? We don't run those kinds of offenses.

Eric Crouch was #46 in Total Offense during his Heisman year. Martinez was #33 this year.

 
knapplc said:
And LOL at Crouch not being good enough for you.
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I think you need to read the post again. I did list Crouch who was one dimensional which for posterity sake I will clarify for you. Teams did not see Crouch as a threat at all whatsoever through the air. LOL at you for thinking differently......

 
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kchusker_chris said:
I don't think you can blame Martinez for our losses - but games like 2011 Wisconsin, or Washington 2.0 in 2010, or UCLA 2012...those were games were we would have needed to 'overcome' Martinez in order to win. He didn't lose them, but we certainly would have needed to win despite him.
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I'm not following you. You're saying Martinez would have cost us these games, but the team overcame his errors?

 
suh_fan93 said:
knapplc said:
And LOL at Crouch not being good enough for you.
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I think you need to read the post again. I did list Crouch who was one dimensional which for posterity sake I will clarify for you. Teams did not see Crouch as a threat at all whatsoever through the air. LOL at you for thinking differently......
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I read what you wrote just fine, and I feel dumber for having done it twice now. You said:

suh_fan93 said:
Crouch was to one dimensional for me but the kid could obviously run
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You didn't say anything about "teams." Nice try, though.

 
knapplc said:
kchusker_chris said:
I don't think you can blame Martinez for our losses - but games like 2011 Wisconsin, or Washington 2.0 in 2010, or UCLA 2012...those were games were we would have needed to 'overcome' Martinez in order to win. He didn't lose them, but we certainly would have needed to win despite him.
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I'm not following you. You're saying Martinez would have cost us these games, but the team overcame his errors?
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I'm it would have taken a great effort by the rest of the team to overcome Martinez/Beck in the 2nd half of the UCLA game. (same w/ UGA) Like the defense was going to have to score 9 because the offense wasn't going to be putting up points. But there were so many other things that went wrong in these games you could never just pin it on one guy.

Edit: That's one benefit to blowouts...you can't point the finger, because it takes a breakdown in almost every facet of the game to do what we've done a few times in the last couple of years.

 
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knapplc said:
suh_fan93 said:
knapplc said:
And LOL at Crouch not being good enough for you.
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I think you need to read the post again. I did list Crouch who was one dimensional which for posterity sake I will clarify for you. Teams did not see Crouch as a threat at all whatsoever through the air. LOL at you for thinking differently......
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I read what you wrote just fine, and I feel dumber for having done it twice now. You said:

suh_fan93 said:
Crouch was to one dimensional for me but the kid could obviously run
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You didn't say anything about "teams." Nice try, though.
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LOL. And roger that for my feeling dumber now regarding this. Now, I've got some Chicago pizza to go devour. Seriously. You kids have fun though and remember...

Martinez for Heisman 2013.

HOLLA.

(Also: I suggest talking about past Husker quarterbacks for the majority and remainder of this thread. Trust me. It is much more entertaining...)

 
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