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[True2tRA]

When are people going to understand that the Wisconsin B1G Championship game was an anomaly and not actually indicative of how universally-god-awful our team actually was?

Landlord, I agree with your comment but I will elaborate. Wisconsin had a season's worth of game film to watch and prepare a gameplan for us going into that game. They beat us, plain and simple. They beat us on the field, and they beat us off the field. They were prepared. They knew our weaknesses and they exposed them. The more film you see on a team, the more you understand what it will take to beat them. It isn't rocket science, really, but it is a HUGE part of the game of football. They had some speedsters, they knew we were weak and slow at LB'er, and they knew our safeties were constantly taking a first step to the inside of the field on run plays. Our safeties took repeated poor angles, and the recovery speed just wasn't there once they took themselves out of position. It was something most of us saw all year, and the better coaches we faced, along with the better athletic teams, were able to really take advantage of it.

As you could see from watching both Wisconsin games, their game plan from the first to the second was VASTLY different. So yes, I agree, the defense wasn't Gawd-awful. I'd say we were OUT COACHED more than anything. Even then, you can't lay all the blame on the coaches either. Wisconsin had a great game plan. End of story.

 

[EZ-E]

When are people going to understand that the Wisconsin B1G Championship game was an anomaly and not actually indicative of how universally-god-awful our team actually was?

Landlord, I agree with your comment but I will elaborate. Wisconsin had a season's worth of game film to watch and prepare a gameplan for us going into that game. They beat us, plain and simple. They beat us on the field, and they beat us off the field. They were prepared. They knew our weaknesses and they exposed them. The more film you see on a team, the more you understand what it will take to beat them. It isn't rocket science, really, but it is a HUGE part of the game of football. They had some speedsters, they knew we were weak and slow at LB'er, and they knew our safeties were constantly taking a first step to the inside of the field on run plays. Our safeties took repeated poor angles, and the recovery speed just wasn't there once they took themselves out of position. It was something most of us saw all year, and the better coaches we faced, along with the better athletic teams, were able to really take advantage of it.

As you could see from watching both Wisconsin games, their game plan from the first to the second was VASTLY different. So yes, I agree, the defense wasn't Gawd-awful. I'd say we were OUT COACHED more than anything. Even then, you can't lay all the blame on the coaches either. Wisconsin had a great game plan. End of story.

I personally think Wisconsin said f#*k it after they beat Indiana and started preparing for us and didn't worry about tOSU and PSU. I honestly think they took those four weeks and prepared for us.

 

[Treand3]

When are people going to understand that the Wisconsin B1G Championship game was an anomaly and not actually indicative of how universally-god-awful our team actually was?

Landlord, I agree with your comment but I will elaborate. Wisconsin had a season's worth of game film to watch and prepare a gameplan for us going into that game. They beat us, plain and simple. They beat us on the field, and they beat us off the field. They were prepared. They knew our weaknesses and they exposed them. The more film you see on a team, the more you understand what it will take to beat them. It isn't rocket science, really, but it is a HUGE part of the game of football. They had some speedsters, they knew we were weak and slow at LB'er, and they knew our safeties were constantly taking a first step to the inside of the field on run plays. Our safeties took repeated poor angles, and the recovery speed just wasn't there once they took themselves out of position. It was something most of us saw all year, and the better coaches we faced, along with the better athletic teams, were able to really take advantage of it.

As you could see from watching both Wisconsin games, their game plan from the first to the second was VASTLY different. So yes, I agree, the defense wasn't Gawd-awful. I'd say we were OUT COACHED more than anything. Even then, you can't lay all the blame on the coaches either. Wisconsin had a great game plan. End of story.

I personally think Wisconsin said f#*k it after they beat Indiana and started preparing for us and didn't worry about tOSU and PSU. I honestly think they took those four weeks and prepared for us.

I'd be willing to bet this is what happened. They played hard in the other games but the stage was set by halftime of the IU game.

 

[QMany]

They threw the kitchen sink at us, too. They were running everything short of trick plays, and then they ran a trick play. They were either going to hit on all of those calls or get beat down trying.

We had no inside presence so we had to commit inside. Then we couldn't contain or tackle on the outside. Couple that with aggressive play calling and we were guessing and hoping.

 

[walksalone]

They threw the kitchen sink at us, too. They were running everything short of trick plays, and then they ran a trick play. They were either going to hit on all of those calls or get beat down trying.

We had no inside presence so we had to commit inside. Then we couldn't contain or tackle on the outside. Couple that with aggressive play calling and we were guessing and hoping.

I kinda got the idea that they wanted payback, even though we'd only beat them by three earlier in the year...

 

[The Dude]

The people saying that we can hold Bo accountable for the blowouts in his first season better hold every first year coach to that same standard. When Anderson gets hammered by tOSU he will be held accountable.

I agree. Bo had perfectly valid excuses for blowout losses in year 1.

Year 5. . . not so much.

 

[Count 'Bility]

Osborne was taking blowouts in year 19.

45-10 and 45-24(wasnt even that close) to end 1990. That ALMOST ended his career at Nebraska. It's also when the changes that led to 93-97 were made.

 

[The Dude]

I personally think Wisconsin said f#*k it after they beat Indiana and started preparing for us and didn't worry about tOSU and PSU. I honestly think they took those four weeks and prepared for us.

You got that impression from watching the tOSU and PSU games against Wisconsin? I got the impression Wisconsin was ready to play. One thing's for sure, they were much more prepared for Ohio State than we were.

 

[The Dude]

Osborne was taking blowouts in year 19.

45-10 and 45-24(wasnt even that close) to end 1990. That ALMOST ended his career at Nebraska. It's also when the changes that led to 93-97 were made.

That's a good point. Unfortunately Bo thinks making any changes like that is "asinine". I guess Osborne is one of those guys who "don't know what they're talking about".

 

[Count 'Bility]

Osborne was taking blowouts in year 19.

45-10 and 45-24(wasnt even that close) to end 1990. That ALMOST ended his career at Nebraska. It's also when the changes that led to 93-97 were made.

That's a good point. Unfortunately Bo thinks making any changes like that is "asinine". I guess Osborne is one of those guys who "don't know what they're talking about".

MAYBE prior to now (that can be very much debated. Could be things we never really notice). But to say he's not making any changes as we speak is just as asinine. We just dont know. What he thinks is asinine is how people outside the team itself seem to find themselves thinking they know more about what's best for the program than the coaches that are there everyday.

 

[The Dude]

Osborne was taking blowouts in year 19.

45-10 and 45-24(wasnt even that close) to end 1990. That ALMOST ended his career at Nebraska. It's also when the changes that led to 93-97 were made.

That's a good point. Unfortunately Bo thinks making any changes like that is "asinine". I guess Osborne is one of those guys who "don't know what they're talking about".

MAYBE prior to now (that can be very much debated. Could be things we never really notice). But to say he's not making any changes as we speak is just as asinine. We just dont know. What he thinks is asinine is how people outside the team itself seem to find themselves thinking they know more about what's best for the program than the coaches that are there everyday.

I thought after the 2011 season it would be asinine to think he's not making any changes. Turns out I was wrong. I hope he is, but I don't have much to go on, other than him scoffing at the idea and saying it's asinine. Which doesn't exactly give me a bunch of confidence.

And if there has been any substantial changes, I'd be interested in knowing what they are, if anyone has any inside info. The only thing I've heard is we'll be playing more zone, which I think will help in defending mobile QBs.

 

[The King]

Osborne was taking blowouts in year 19.

45-10 and 45-24(wasnt even that close) to end 1990. That ALMOST ended his career at Nebraska. It's also when the changes that led to 93-97 were made.

That's a good point. Unfortunately Bo thinks making any changes like that is "asinine". I guess Osborne is one of those guys who "don't know what they're talking about".

MAYBE prior to now (that can be very much debated. Could be things we never really notice). But to say he's not making any changes as we speak is just as asinine. We just dont know. What he thinks is asinine is how people outside the team itself seem to find themselves thinking they know more about what's best for the program than the coaches that are there everyday.

This.

Bo makes changes, he just doesn't think that major changes are in order, like some fans think.

Blitz more! Just simplify the scheme! Change to a 3-4!

Just because he isn't making huge changes doesn't mean he isn't making changes.

 

[The King]

Osborne was taking blowouts in year 19.

45-10 and 45-24(wasnt even that close) to end 1990. That ALMOST ended his career at Nebraska. It's also when the changes that led to 93-97 were made.

That's a good point. Unfortunately Bo thinks making any changes like that is "asinine". I guess Osborne is one of those guys who "don't know what they're talking about".

MAYBE prior to now (that can be very much debated. Could be things we never really notice). But to say he's not making any changes as we speak is just as asinine. We just dont know. What he thinks is asinine is how people outside the team itself seem to find themselves thinking they know more about what's best for the program than the coaches that are there everyday.

I thought after the 2011 season it would be asinine to think he's not making any changes. Turns out I was wrong. I hope he is, but I don't have much to go on, other than him scoffing at the idea and saying it's asinine. Which doesn't exactly give me a bunch of confidence.

And if there has been any substantial changes, I'd be interested in knowing what they are, if anyone has any inside info. The only thing I've heard is we'll be playing more zone, which I think will help in defending mobile QBs.

Where has Bo ever said "changes are asinine". I am very curious to know where you get this information that he said he'll never change anything.

 

[The Dude]

Where has Bo ever said "changes are asinine". I am very curious to know where you get this information that he said he'll never change anything.

From the article this thread is about:

Despite those recent setbacks, Pelini scoffs at those who suggest he needs to make changes on defense.
"That's asinine," he said.

 

[RedRedJarvisRedwine]

The biggest changes being made on the defense this year will be personnel. This alone could change the whole outlook on our season.