Phil Steele says Nebraska will be #17 heading into the season

[hskrfan4life]

lol

 

[EZ-E]

Correct, but however you look at it, when a running play is blocked as well as Wisconsin did in that game, the safety is the only one with a chance on several of those plays. Placing the blame on the safety play isn't coming directly from me. There are many people around the program that I have heard that from. You can't possibly blame a DT for not stopping a jet sweep. Just being real.

Was it good blocking or terrible DL/LB play? It looked to me like a combination of both.

Saying that "you can't possibly blame a DT for not stopping a jet sweep" is a doozy of a straw man. I don't think that I've said anything of the sort. What about the DE and the LB?

My expectations for the defense are that each week they get better. We are going to have to score a lot of points to beat UCLA, but the good news is just about every other team in between them and Michigan we should be able to line up and beat on pure talent alone.

I agree. The weaker schedule will help quite a bit. I still think that they will be exposed by decent competition.

Hopefully I'm wrong and we win them all. :thumbs

I appogize. I seem to group bad arguments all in the same category because we have heard so many people blame the interior DL.

What would the DEs do on the jet sweep??? Careful with your answer.

OLBs, Santos missed on that was embarrassing I distinctly remember, Staffords play was specifically pointed out to me as was PJ Smiths. I don't remember seeing more embarrassing play from any other player than those two.

 

[carlfense]

What would the DEs do on the jet sweep??? Careful with your answer.

Contain or string it out. (Heavily dependent on what is called. I can pretty much guarantee that what wasn't called was getting absolutely destroyed at the point of attack.)

OLBs, Santos missed on that was embarrassing I distinctly remember, Staffords play was specifically pointed out to me as was PJ Smiths. I don't remember seeing more embarrassing play from any other player than those two.

Watch it again. There is plenty of embarrassment to go around. Your eyes should be sufficient . . . you know more than enough to not require specific instruction.

 

[EZ-E]

What would the DEs do on the jet sweep??? Careful with your answer.

Contain or string it out. (Heavily dependent on what is called. I can pretty much guarantee that what wasn't called was getting absolutely destroyed at the point of attack.)

OLBs, Santos missed on that was embarrassing I distinctly remember, Staffords play was specifically pointed out to me as was PJ Smiths. I don't remember seeing more embarrassing play from any other player than those two.

Watch it again. There is plenty of embarrassment to go around. Your eyes should be sufficient . . . you know more than enough to not require specific instruction.

It would have been awful tough with how quick a jet sweep happens for the DEs to contain it or string anything out. Without looking at it, from what I remember, I'd say that I'd put more of the containment responsibilities on the OLBs. I'm in the process of watching the full game again.

I'm not saying that the DEs played well by any means.

 

[walksalone]

For my buck, almost all of this hinges on the defense, unless Beck goes "Full Watson", and you never go "Full Watson", then the offense should score enough to win games...

 

[SuperBigFan69]

What would the DEs do on the jet sweep??? Careful with your answer.

Contain or string it out. (Heavily dependent on what is called. I can pretty much guarantee that what wasn't called was getting absolutely destroyed at the point of attack.)

OLBs, Santos missed on that was embarrassing I distinctly remember, Staffords play was specifically pointed out to me as was PJ Smiths. I don't remember seeing more embarrassing play from any other player than those two.

Watch it again. There is plenty of embarrassment to go around. Your eyes should be sufficient . . . you know more than enough to not require specific instruction.

It would have been awful tough with how quick a jet sweep happens for the DEs to contain it or string anything out. Without looking at it, from what I remember, I'd say that I'd put more of the containment responsibilities on the OLBs. I'm in the process of watching the full game again.

I'm not saying that the DEs played well by any means.

Well, what you are saying could be right/ This is just a guess but at most levels of ball, high school and up, the end is getting a call, usually from a SS, that call will dictate how the end plays certain things (usually the option, option pass, and in some cases a jet sweet which would probably hold most of the same responsibilities as a reverse) From things I have coached/seen, the only call that would change what the OLB does would be a call that has something to do with an option play.

I have not seen many schemes that have OLB's do anything other that opposite their end OR outside-in (which is pretty common, forcing things back in.)

That being said, if Wisconsin was not pulling a playside guard on those jet sweeps (I don't remember at all, maybe you saw it) then that really screws up things when it comes to the OLB's steps. If that playside guard doesn't pull, then that OLB will freeze, step up, or back. That is a lost step vs a Jet Sweep, assuming that your OLB's are reading guards, which is usually the read.

Rarely though, do DE's crash on run plays and lose outside leverage or lose "free outside arm", which is a rule of thumb.

Then again, I could be totally wrong like I was last weekend when I thought getting a "second wind" meant ordering a second pitcher of Elk Creek to close out the night.

 

[EZ-E]

Just actually finished the first half because I'm bored as hell at work.

1) It appeared as though we dedicated our front four to stopping the middle run. The ends crashed inside and never once worried about the outside until late in the half. This didn't seem like a bad idea because Wisconsin hadn't shown any type of outside jet sweep or option plays all year.

2) I would bet that BB gambled and guessed Bo would do the above, as a result... Well you know

3) I don't think there was a fake to Monte Ball that Fisher didn't bite on.

4) We showed several times that we were not fast or good enough at linebacker.

5) When we adjusted to Wisconsin beating us with the jet sweep, we started to get up the field a bit more with our DEs. This proved to be very stupid and Wisconsin just mirdered us up the middle.

6) Again I'm going back to the safety play. Stafford had a chance to prove he was draftable. If he comes up and makes the plays that were required and expected of him he would have looked like a star.

 

[Treand3]

Just actually finished the first half because I'm bored as hell at work.

1) It appeared as though we dedicated our front four to stopping the middle run. The ends crashed inside and never once worried about the outside until late in the half. This didn't seem like a bad idea because Wisconsin hadn't shown any type of outside jet sweep or option plays all year.

2) I would bet that BB gambled and guessed Bo would do the above, as a result... Well you know

3) I don't think there was a fake to Monte Ball that Fisher didn't bite on.

4) We showed several times that we were not fast or good enough at linebacker.

5) When we adjusted to Wisconsin beating us with the jet sweep, we started to get up the field a bit more with our DEs. This proved to be very stupid and Wisconsin just mirdered us up the middle.

6) Again I'm going back to the safety play. Stafford had a chance to prove he was draftable. If he comes up and makes the plays that were required and expected of him he would have looked like a star.

Agree on all points. I will say in the 1st match up they motioned Gordon but gave most of the time, if not all, to Ball. They seen that Stafford had a lot of space to cover if they did give to the motion man, and did so in the championship game. You can bet Beliema gambled on their game plan. I can't remember exactly what he said during the media conference leading up to the game, but he alluded that they had some tricks up their sleeve. All in all I agree with you. Did you dvr that? I deleted it before the game was over. I tried youtube but to no avail.

 

[Foppa]

This isn't Phil Steele's Top 25 - it's his projection of what the Top 25 will look like when football starts this Fall. Nebraska checks in at #17.

No. 17 Nebraska-The Huskers have been consistent under Bo Pelini as they have won at least 9 games each of his five seasons but have also lost four games each of those years as well. This year could be the year they finally break thru as they return 8 starters on offense including quarterback Taylor Martinez who returns for his 4th-year as the starter. The Achilles Heel for the Huskers last year was a defense that allowed 27.6 ppg and they return just 4 starters on that side of the ball this year. However, their schedule is manageable as they avoid Ohio St and Wisconsin from the Leaders division and also play their first five games at home.



That projection puts us ahead of Wiscy (#24), UCLA (#23), Northwestern (#20), Michigan (#19) and Texas (#18).

Other notables for Nebraska Fan: Oklahoma (#14), Texas A&M (#5) and THE Ohio State University (#2).

Umm...Am I the only one EXCITED that only 4 of the D is coming back? Sorry, but there is a lot of potential and speed coming up, and that pumps me up a whole hell of a lot more than slow, experienced players who you knew had no business being on the field. I'll never forget the games where Bo would be screaming at Lavonte David on the sideline...and he'd finish the game with 16 tackles and easily be the best player NU had on defense. Be fast, be a ball-hawk, just do what you need to to win. After all...it's not like they can be any worse than giving up 63 and 70 points in a game by using their skill, right?

 

[walksalone]

Umm...Am I the only one EXCITED that only 4 of the D is coming back? Sorry, but there is a lot of potential and speed coming up, and that pumps me up a whole hell of a lot more than slow, experienced players who you knew had no business being on the field. I'll never forget the games where Bo would be screaming at Lavonte David on the sideline...and he'd finish the game with 16 tackles and easily be the best player NU had on defense. Be fast, be a ball-hawk, just do what you need to to win. After all...it's not like they can be any worse than giving up 63 and 70 points in a game by using their skill, right?

I can see where you're excited about the influx of new talent on that side of the ball, but at what cost. They don't have much room for error because this year it's all going to be "on the job training"...

 

[Foppa]

Umm...Am I the only one EXCITED that only 4 of the D is coming back? Sorry, but there is a lot of potential and speed coming up, and that pumps me up a whole hell of a lot more than slow, experienced players who you knew had no business being on the field. I'll never forget the games where Bo would be screaming at Lavonte David on the sideline...and he'd finish the game with 16 tackles and easily be the best player NU had on defense. Be fast, be a ball-hawk, just do what you need to to win. After all...it's not like they can be any worse than giving up 63 and 70 points in a game by using their skill, right?

I can see where you're excited about the influx of new talent on that side of the ball, but at what cost. They don't have much room for error because this year it's all going to be "on the job training"...

As opposed to what...giving up more than 36 to UCLA? 63 to OSU? 70 to Wisconsin? Tell me the experienced 'blackshirts' weren't doing 'on the job training' last year. I'll take my chances with this group over that 'thing' that was doing nothing on D last year. And yes, I do realize they weren't getting any favors from the special teams/offense shooting themselves in the foot.

 

[The Dude]

Just actually finished the first half because I'm bored as hell at work.

1) It appeared as though we dedicated our front four to stopping the middle run. The ends crashed inside and never once worried about the outside until late in the half. This didn't seem like a bad idea because Wisconsin hadn't shown any type of outside jet sweep or option plays all year.

I think what you meant to say was "that was only the second Wisconsin game I watched all year".



The Melvin Gordon highlights at 11:15 should be of particular interest. Some of those plays seem awfully familiar.

 

[Count 'Bility]

We can break down x's and o's all we want. Everyone has good points. I have some as well, but I'm gonna save my breath.

We were not ready to play. Plain and simple. And I know that point has been hammered as well. It's disappointing. This program on the brink of rising back to a plateau again, and again we lay an egg. The grind of the regular season finally caught up with the guys. We can blame this or him, but it is the fact. Sure the defense struggles, but christ, Taylor throws a pick 6 on the first damn offensive play. Had we not been teased by 6 weeks of ridiculous comebacks-including one to the same Wisconsin team-most fans probably wouldve just turned it off at that point. The energy to do it again was not there. And this game was the ultimate failure in a string of pant-shittings that goes back all the way to 2001.

I'm not making excuses. These are reasons. And as a coach and football players, you have to find a way to trudge through these situations if you wanna be great.

 

[StPaulHusker]

Hey everyone. Athlon came out with a list about the best coaches and Bo is ranked 35. We should think about copying and pasting all of these arguments over there just to save everyone the time of reading and re-typing what is in here.

 

[carlfense]

This program on the brink of rising back to a plateau again, and again we lay an egg. .

We aren't on the brink of rising back to a plateau . . . we're on one. Pelini immediately elevated the program in terms of wins and losses beyond what Callahan had done but we haven't been getting better. In fact, in some areas we are regressing.

I'll believe that Pelini's program can do more just as soon as he does it. I don't quite understand the blind faith. (And FWIW I like Pelini.)