Yeah it makes it hard for Lebron when you know you are going to get the ball and then the Spurs stuff the lane to take a drive to the basket away. What also helped Jordan was that he was a damn good shooter. Lebron still needs to work on that because if he takes jump shots all the time he can go cold and not score in a stretch. Bosh has been doing good and he came up with big blocks when the Heat needed them last game.
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beanman
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Precisely my point. They dared him to shoot all night and he wouldn't. Because when he did, he fired up bricks. And yes, I agree that Pippen was probably the best defensive player of the 90s. But the Heat overall have just as much talent as the Bulls during their first 3 titles. For the 2nd 3-peat with Rodman and Tony K, I'd say the Bulls had more talent surrounding Jordan than Lebron has now.
Not sure why that's so hard to grasp. Someone acted like BJ Armstrong was a flippin' allstar the other night. I call BS on that.
well when you look at the Heat's roster they have so many guys that can score but the problem they have is their all-stars go cold sometimes and they tend to start taking jump shots instead of driving to the basket. I believe the Heat would be a lot better if they had more balance in shooting and driving. I would agree that the Bulls first 3-peat wasn't quite as loaded as their second time but they still had good players on that roster. Toni kukoc came in the end of the first 3-peat and he was a hell of shooter. Will Perdue was a pretty good center.
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To be fair, I only remember the 2nd 3-peat lol. First one I was too young, I believe I was 5 years old at the time. I was still young during the 2nd, but I remember watching and understanding it. When basing my statements, its only off what I remember, which was 96, 97 & 98.
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HuskerShark
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I think a lot of these things you guys are saying have to do with leadership. Phil Jackson wrote about that in his book; MJ and Kobe both were great leaders. They were both really hard on their teammates, but that in the end helped to instill that championship, killer mentality that the Bulls had with Jordan, and the Lakers had with Kobe and several of his supporting casts.
Lebron tends to take a more laid-back approach. He's afraid to be the a$$hole. He always tries to be the nice guy and the NBA's princess (a part that he plays pretty well most of the time) but when it comes down to it, he really doesn't do the things that he needs to do a lot of times from a leadership standpoint. Great leaders are willing to get up in their teammates' face and tell them what they need to be doing better. Social media sometimes blows it out of proportion today, but those are the kind of things that great leaders do. To be honest, when Lebron was in Cleveland, he did more of that. He played with some really mediocre talent his entire time with the Cavs, but he wasn't afraid to be the bad guy and demand more from his teammates than they would be able to deliver otherwise.
Lebron tends to take a more laid-back approach. He's afraid to be the a$$hole. He always tries to be the nice guy and the NBA's princess (a part that he plays pretty well most of the time) but when it comes down to it, he really doesn't do the things that he needs to do a lot of times from a leadership standpoint. Great leaders are willing to get up in their teammates' face and tell them what they need to be doing better. Social media sometimes blows it out of proportion today, but those are the kind of things that great leaders do. To be honest, when Lebron was in Cleveland, he did more of that. He played with some really mediocre talent his entire time with the Cavs, but he wasn't afraid to be the bad guy and demand more from his teammates than they would be able to deliver otherwise.
beanman
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Will Perdue was awful man. Just awful. Other than Horace Grant, the Bulls were pretty weak at the post. Give me Luc Longley over any of the guys they had at center during their first 3-peat. Although it's close with Bill Cartright. He just had a weird-a$$ shot and wasn't much of a weapon offensively. Decent all-around player though.
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beanman
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I can agree with that, although Jackson recently said that Kobe wasn't the leader Jordan was. If I had to pick between Kobe and Lebron, I'd take Lebron at this point. Offensively Kobe is better, but Lebron gives you more defensively and rebounding. I still think MJ is in a class above both of them in leadership and overall play, mostly because of how competitive and fearless he was.
RedRedJarvisRedwine
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Will Purdue? Really? I think you mean Bill Cartwright or Luc Longley! Will Purdue! Pffffttttt! Next you're gonna tell me that Jack Haley was a super sub.
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To be honest.....LeBron would've flopped when that player was making the steal and got the call
B.B. Hemingway
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Does Lebron flop? Sure he does.... Is it anymore than any other NBA star? No it isn't....
Pretty sure this is false but I don't watch enough NBA to care. At any rate any other NBA star of today? Maybe. NBA stars from more than 10 or so years ago? Not a chance.
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So since everybody else is doing, its ok for the so called chosen one to do it? If Lebron is so great than why does he need to resort to flopping?
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It's what the game has evolved to. They are playing the game just like everyone else. It isnt Lebron's fault that it has gotten to this point. Just because you have the fastest horse on the track does that mean you arent going to use a whip?