Bo Pelini Dream Team

[The Dude]

Taylor's TRUE arm shows in the Okie Lite game in 2010.

I probably could have thrown for 400 yards against that defense.

 

[HuskerNationNick]

Taylor's TRUE arm shows in the Okie Lite game in 2010.

I probably could have thrown for 400 yards against that defense.

I was merely stating arm strength. He showed the best arm strength of this career that game. I could give two sh#ts less how many yards he got. He showed he has the capability of throwing more than 5-20 yard passes that game. His arm strength wasn't the best of QB's, but its more than suh_fan states.

 

[The Dude]

I have elite arm strength. But that's probably because I have a Brazzers membership.

 

[HuskerNationNick]

I have elite arm strength. But that's probably because I have a Brazzers membership.

I literally just about spit my water all over the computer LOL. Dude, that is probably the funniest thing I have heard you say on here lol.

 

[knapplc]

The quarterback is such low-hanging fruit and it amazes me that we have, yet again, a thread discussing the pros and cons of quarterbacks at Nebraska.

Ganz and Martinez have both suffered from the same problem - Cosgrovian defenses. The games we lost under Martinez have been mostly blowouts because the defense couldn't stop the opponent, not because of Martinez. But here we are, plodding over the same slow-lane territory as always.

To recap, for those with poor memories:

2010 - Martinez is a Freshman. We lose four games (the Pelini standard) by an average of six points. Taylor took us to the conference championship game and gave us a 17-0 lead despite a gimpy ankle that plagued him that season and the next. The defense gave up five scores after the 17-0 lead in the Conference Championship. That's not on Taylor.

2011 - The defense begins to weaken considerably. Losses go from an average of six points per loss to 19 per loss. Martinez is not stellar in the Wisconsin or Michigan losses, but the defense is woeful, giving up an average of 431 yards and 38 points per game. Those losses weren't because of Martinez' turnovers - the defense couldn't stop anyone.

2012 - Four losses. Stop me if you've heard this before. Nebraska's defense gives up an average of 54 points and 595 yards per loss. Nebraska scores an average of 33 points and gains an average of 449 yards. If we had those offensive numbers in 2009 we're looking at another National Championship. But because we were saddled with this horrible defense, we have four losses. Again.

2013 - ??? The offense, led by Martinez, looks to be one of the scariest in the conference, if not the nation. The defense... who knows.

Why are we talking about the quarterback again?

 

[Saunders]

I'll clarify. It's acknowledged by anyone with common sense that at times, our offense can be its own worst enemy. A good portion of that has to do with Taylor. But you'd be hard pressed to find a QB who can run this offense and make it as big of a threat as it is now.

Wow. This was a whopper. I'm betting we could easily find someone to run our offense lol. Guys on our team now even. Since no quarterback knows what it's like to get any playing time besides Martinez it's not like we would find out anyway.

First, our backup QB's threw 4 less passes than Bama's, so lets just go ahead and stop with that fallacy. Second, please name the guys on the roster who could come in a do a better job this season. Hell, go ahead and use the guys who left too. I'm just dying to hear this well thought out, and non-biased diatribe.

 

[Mavric]

I have elite arm strength. But that's probably because I have a Brazzers membership.

That or you came from a naturally strong family.

 

[The Dude]

The quarterback is such low-hanging fruit and it amazes me that we have, yet again, a thread discussing the pros and cons of quarterbacks at Nebraska.

Ganz and Martinez have both suffered from the same problem - Cosgrovian defenses. The games we lost under Martinez have been mostly blowouts because the defense couldn't stop the opponent, not because of Martinez. But here we are, plodding over the same slow-lane territory as always.

To recap, for those with poor memories:

2010 - Martinez is a Freshman. We lose four games (the Pelini standard) by an average of six points. Taylor took us to the conference championship game and gave us a 17-0 lead despite a gimpy ankle that plagued him that season and the next. The defense gave up five scores after the 17-0 lead in the Conference Championship. That's not on Taylor.

:dunno

 

[knapplc]

The quarterback is such low-hanging fruit and it amazes me that we have, yet again, a thread discussing the pros and cons of quarterbacks at Nebraska.

Ganz and Martinez have both suffered from the same problem - Cosgrovian defenses. The games we lost under Martinez have been mostly blowouts because the defense couldn't stop the opponent, not because of Martinez. But here we are, plodding over the same slow-lane territory as always.

To recap, for those with poor memories:

2010 - Martinez is a Freshman. We lose four games (the Pelini standard) by an average of six points. Taylor took us to the conference championship game and gave us a 17-0 lead despite a gimpy ankle that plagued him that season and the next. The defense gave up five scores after the 17-0 lead in the Conference Championship. That's not on Taylor.

:dunno

What part of that 17-0 lead are you confused about.

 

[The Dude]

The quarterback is such low-hanging fruit and it amazes me that we have, yet again, a thread discussing the pros and cons of quarterbacks at Nebraska.

Ganz and Martinez have both suffered from the same problem - Cosgrovian defenses. The games we lost under Martinez have been mostly blowouts because the defense couldn't stop the opponent, not because of Martinez. But here we are, plodding over the same slow-lane territory as always.

To recap, for those with poor memories:

2010 - Martinez is a Freshman. We lose four games (the Pelini standard) by an average of six points. Taylor took us to the conference championship game and gave us a 17-0 lead despite a gimpy ankle that plagued him that season and the next. The defense gave up five scores after the 17-0 lead in the Conference Championship. That's not on Taylor.

:dunno

What part of that 17-0 lead are you confused about.

The part where Martinez gave it to us.

A Helu TD run, a Burkhead-to-Reed TD pass, and a Henery FG = Martinez giving us a 17-0 lead?

The only noteworthy thing I can remember Martinez doing that entire game was throwing the momentum-changing INT in the endzone. But then again, I have a poor memory.

 

[Saunders]

The quarterback is such low-hanging fruit and it amazes me that we have, yet again, a thread discussing the pros and cons of quarterbacks at Nebraska.

That's because it's an easy target for people who don't really know what they are talking about.

 

[knapplc]

The quarterback is such low-hanging fruit and it amazes me that we have, yet again, a thread discussing the pros and cons of quarterbacks at Nebraska.

Ganz and Martinez have both suffered from the same problem - Cosgrovian defenses. The games we lost under Martinez have been mostly blowouts because the defense couldn't stop the opponent, not because of Martinez. But here we are, plodding over the same slow-lane territory as always.

To recap, for those with poor memories:

2010 - Martinez is a Freshman. We lose four games (the Pelini standard) by an average of six points. Taylor took us to the conference championship game and gave us a 17-0 lead despite a gimpy ankle that plagued him that season and the next. The defense gave up five scores after the 17-0 lead in the Conference Championship. That's not on Taylor.

:dunno

What part of that 17-0 lead are you confused about.

The part where Martinez gave it to us.

A Helu TD run, a Burkhead-to-Reed TD pass, and a Henery FG = Martinez giving us a 17-0 lead?

The only noteworthy thing I can remember Martinez doing that entire game was throwing the momentum-changing INT in the endzone. But then again, I have a poor memory.

Who was the quarterback for those plays? Did we sub someone else in when I wasn't looking?

 

[The Dude]

The quarterback is such low-hanging fruit and it amazes me that we have, yet again, a thread discussing the pros and cons of quarterbacks at Nebraska.

Ganz and Martinez have both suffered from the same problem - Cosgrovian defenses. The games we lost under Martinez have been mostly blowouts because the defense couldn't stop the opponent, not because of Martinez. But here we are, plodding over the same slow-lane territory as always.

To recap, for those with poor memories:

2010 - Martinez is a Freshman. We lose four games (the Pelini standard) by an average of six points. Taylor took us to the conference championship game and gave us a 17-0 lead despite a gimpy ankle that plagued him that season and the next. The defense gave up five scores after the 17-0 lead in the Conference Championship. That's not on Taylor.

:dunno

What part of that 17-0 lead are you confused about.

The part where Martinez gave it to us.

A Helu TD run, a Burkhead-to-Reed TD pass, and a Henery FG = Martinez giving us a 17-0 lead?

The only noteworthy thing I can remember Martinez doing that entire game was throwing the momentum-changing INT in the endzone. But then again, I have a poor memory.

Who was the quarterback for those plays? Did we sub someone else in when I wasn't looking?

There wasn't a QB in the game for Henery's 53 yard field goal, and Burkhead was in the game at QB for his TD pass (set up by Osborne's INT return). Martinez was the QB for Helu's long run, but not sure how much more Martinez had to do with that run than Helu and his blockers.

Saying Martinez gave us a 17-0 lead is a pretty blatant denial of reality.

 

[HuskerShark]

The quarterback is such low-hanging fruit and it amazes me that we have, yet again, a thread discussing the pros and cons of quarterbacks at Nebraska.

Ganz and Martinez have both suffered from the same problem - Cosgrovian defenses. The games we lost under Martinez have been mostly blowouts because the defense couldn't stop the opponent, not because of Martinez. But here we are, plodding over the same slow-lane territory as always.

To recap, for those with poor memories:

2010 - Martinez is a Freshman. We lose four games (the Pelini standard) by an average of six points. Taylor took us to the conference championship game and gave us a 17-0 lead despite a gimpy ankle that plagued him that season and the next. The defense gave up five scores after the 17-0 lead in the Conference Championship. That's not on Taylor.

:dunno

What part of that 17-0 lead are you confused about.

The part where Martinez gave it to us.

A Helu TD run, a Burkhead-to-Reed TD pass, and a Henery FG = Martinez giving us a 17-0 lead?

The only noteworthy thing I can remember Martinez doing that entire game was throwing the momentum-changing INT in the endzone. But then again, I have a poor memory.

Who was the quarterback for those plays? Did we sub someone else in when I wasn't looking?

knapp, come on, you should have this figured out by now. When things go good, credit goes to everyone except Taylor. When things go wrong, Taylor gets the blame whether it was his fault or not. Forget that we had a Big 12 championship well in hand and our defense gave up a 3-score lead. It's all Taylor's fault.

 

[knapplc]

There wasn't a QB in the game for Henery's 53 yard field goal, and Burkhead was in the game at QB for his TD pass (set up by Osborne's INT return). Martinez was the QB for Helu's long run, but not sure how much more Martinez had to do with that run than Helu and his blockers.

Saying Martinez gave us a 17-0 lead is a pretty blatant denial of reality.

I literally laughed out loud at this. This is such a reach.

OK. So "Nebraska" got us a 17-0 lead against the Sooners. Not Martinez, because to think that would be a "pretty blatant denial of reality." It was "Nebraska."

So... who's responsible for giving up that lead? Because the only time you've mentioned Martinez in relation to that game you've said he was responsible for the INT in the end zone - which is accurate, but it ignores other turnovers in that game, including Helu's fumble at the Nebraska 19 which led to Oklahoma's tying TD.

But I guess pointing out Martinez' INT when we were up 17-0 was an acceptance of reality. Or something.