Coaches poll is out

[killer cacti]

Looking at the teams ranked above us and we are starting to go toe to toe with them.in recruiting. When bo first took over we were not recruiting against the top teams very well. All the teams above us have a great recruiting advantage based on region, weather and pure population standpoint. I think this staff is finding its groove and hope they continue moving the program the right direction. Our young talent on both sides of the ball will be exciting to watch this season and down.the road.

I don't see a lot of these schools having a great recruiting advantage. I suppose if you want to put a big blanket over the whole south and say that the weather gives them an advantage, but Alabama and South Carolina are pretty ugly states overall and the heat and humidity for training camp and early season is miserable. Clemson and A&M are out in the middle of nowhere. As for Ohio St, Columbus seems like just a bigger version of Lincoln/Omaha. More people but more competition. If the population is such a big advantage why isn't Indiana ever up there? How could Stillwater, Oklahoma be a recruiting advantage? Maybe the reasons are in the cheating thread. I just don't buy that Nebraska = Siberia and everywhere else = South Beach or Hollywood, and yes, I know you didn't say that.

SC is ugly? My guess is you have only been through it on 95 heading to Florida or something. Upstate with mountains, low country with beaches, Charleston, and much more that's beautiful.

We may be dumb, but we aint ugly.

 

[Landlord]

Looking at the teams ranked above us and we are starting to go toe to toe with them.in recruiting. When bo first took over we were not recruiting against the top teams very well. All the teams above us have a great recruiting advantage based on region, weather and pure population standpoint. I think this staff is finding its groove and hope they continue moving the program the right direction. Our young talent on both sides of the ball will be exciting to watch this season and down.the road.

I don't see a lot of these schools having a great recruiting advantage. I suppose if you want to put a big blanket over the whole south and say that the weather gives them an advantage, but Alabama and South Carolina are pretty ugly states overall and the heat and humidity for training camp and early season is miserable. Clemson and A&M are out in the middle of nowhere. As for Ohio St, Columbus seems like just a bigger version of Lincoln/Omaha. More people but more competition. If the population is such a big advantage why isn't Indiana ever up there? How could Stillwater, Oklahoma be a recruiting advantage? Maybe the reasons are in the cheating thread. I just don't buy that Nebraska = Siberia and everywhere else = South Beach or Hollywood, and yes, I know you didn't say that.

SC is ugly? My guess is you have only been through it on 95 heading to Florida or something. Upstate with mountains, low country with beaches, Charleston, and much more that's beautiful.

We may be dumb, but we aint ugly.

I think he was using you as a reference point kc~~

 

[kchusker_chris]

Ok, folks, we gotta get this straight.

OSU IS IN FACT AS GOOD AS THE RANKING.

Now, hear me out. We need this, if we get to Indy. Because it is exactly that claim (OSU is overrated) that could end up keeping NU out of a MNC game.

We need to spread the word that OSU is, in fact, as good as they are currently ranked. So that when number 5 NU knocks off OSU for the B1G CCG, we are taken seriously enough to jump into contention for the marbles. Otherwise we risk being left outside for another all SEC sausage fest.

I don't have an actual opinion on OSU, but an inflated opinion of ANY B1G team could prove a later blessing to any other team in the conference.

Sorry, just thinking logically, which may offend some.

If we're undefeated, we're playing for it. End of story. If we have 1 loss, we aren't playing for it. It's not all that complicated. A 1 loss team will not jump an undefeated Nebraska team. A 1 loss Nebraska team, probably isn't going to jump too many other 1 loss teams based on where we're starting, and where that likely loss came from (michigan, or late in the season)

 

[VA Husker Fan]

Looking at the teams ranked above us and we are starting to go toe to toe with them.in recruiting. When bo first took over we were not recruiting against the top teams very well. All the teams above us have a great recruiting advantage based on region, weather and pure population standpoint. I think this staff is finding its groove and hope they continue moving the program the right direction. Our young talent on both sides of the ball will be exciting to watch this season and down.the road.

I don't see a lot of these schools having a great recruiting advantage. I suppose if you want to put a big blanket over the whole south and say that the weather gives them an advantage, but Alabama and South Carolina are pretty ugly states overall and the heat and humidity for training camp and early season is miserable. Clemson and A&M are out in the middle of nowhere. As for Ohio St, Columbus seems like just a bigger version of Lincoln/Omaha. More people but more competition. If the population is such a big advantage why isn't Indiana ever up there? How could Stillwater, Oklahoma be a recruiting advantage? Maybe the reasons are in the cheating thread. I just don't buy that Nebraska = Siberia and everywhere else = South Beach or Hollywood, and yes, I know you didn't say that.

SC is ugly? My guess is you have only been through it on 95 heading to Florida or something. Upstate with mountains, low country with beaches, Charleston, and much more that's beautiful.

We may be dumb, but we aint ugly.

A lot of this is based on the dreariness between I-95 and Myrtle Beach. I know there are nice parts to the state. I just think when kids get recruited by Florida and California schools there is an instant allure for many and they at least want to take the recruiting trip. South Carolina? My first instinct would be to pass on it. Not trying to crap on your state, but I think people in general have a less than favorable impression of it overall. I lived in NC for 16 years and Virginia now so this is less of a midwestern view than you might think.

 

[PaulCrewe]

Two things.

First the poll. Who the f#*k gave A&M a first place vote?????

Secondly, as far as Mrs Butthead....I mean Biliema is concerned, I see an Anna Benson part deux in the future.,

 

[ColoradoHusk]

Two things.

First the poll. Who the f#*k gave A&M a first place vote?????

Secondly, as far as Mrs Butthead....I mean Biliema is concerned, I see an Anna Benson part deux in the future.,

I have know idea what kind of woman Mrs. Beliema is, but Anna Benson is trash. She was "hot", but she is trash.

 

[BOJ]

Two things.

First the poll. Who the f#*k gave A&M a first place vote?????

Secondly, as far as Mrs Butthead....I mean Biliema is concerned, I see an Anna Benson part deux in the future.,

I am guessing it may be Kevin Sumlin.

 

[BOJ]

Two things.

First the poll. Who the f#*k gave A&M a first place vote?????

Secondly, as far as Mrs Butthead....I mean Biliema is concerned, I see an Anna Benson part deux in the future.,

I have know idea what kind of woman Mrs. Beliema is, but Anna Benson is trash. She was "hot", but she is trash.

Distinguishing fact may be whether Mrs. Beliema was a former stripper as Benson was; may need to do some digging into this.

 

[killer cacti]

Looking at the teams ranked above us and we are starting to go toe to toe with them.in recruiting. When bo first took over we were not recruiting against the top teams very well. All the teams above us have a great recruiting advantage based on region, weather and pure population standpoint. I think this staff is finding its groove and hope they continue moving the program the right direction. Our young talent on both sides of the ball will be exciting to watch this season and down.the road.

I don't see a lot of these schools having a great recruiting advantage. I suppose if you want to put a big blanket over the whole south and say that the weather gives them an advantage, but Alabama and South Carolina are pretty ugly states overall and the heat and humidity for training camp and early season is miserable. Clemson and A&M are out in the middle of nowhere. As for Ohio St, Columbus seems like just a bigger version of Lincoln/Omaha. More people but more competition. If the population is such a big advantage why isn't Indiana ever up there? How could Stillwater, Oklahoma be a recruiting advantage? Maybe the reasons are in the cheating thread. I just don't buy that Nebraska = Siberia and everywhere else = South Beach or Hollywood, and yes, I know you didn't say that.

SC is ugly? My guess is you have only been through it on 95 heading to Florida or something. Upstate with mountains, low country with beaches, Charleston, and much more that's beautiful.

We may be dumb, but we aint ugly.

A lot of this is based on the dreariness between I-95 and Myrtle Beach. I know there are nice parts to the state. I just think when kids get recruited by Florida and California schools there is an instant allure for many and they at least want to take the recruiting trip. South Carolina? My first instinct would be to pass on it. Not trying to crap on your state, but I think people in general have a less than favorable impression of it overall. I lived in NC for 16 years and Virginia now so this is less of a midwestern view than you might think.

I assumed by your handle that you lived in VA, hence the 95 south comment. Myrtle Beach is a pure s***hole. Not sure how they bring in the tourism that they do.

University of SC in Columbia is not so great, I'll agree with you there. Columbia just doesn't have much to offer.

As far as Clemson, it's in the mountains, lots of lakes around, a lot to do if you're into the outdoors. One thing that I helps Clemson, it is in the middle of nowhere. No clubs, no inner city problems, it's an easy sell to parents that want to get their kids out of the cities. See Sammy Watkins, grew up in a very violent neighborhood, and now he loves Clemson because the problems aren't as prevalent. The coaches at Clemson have said that the hardest part of recruiting is getting them on campus, but once they're in town, it sells itself.

 

[jsneb83]

Ok, folks, we gotta get this straight.

OSU IS IN FACT AS GOOD AS THE RANKING.

Now, hear me out. We need this, if we get to Indy. Because it is exactly that claim (OSU is overrated) that could end up keeping NU out of a MNC game.

We need to spread the word that OSU is, in fact, as good as they are currently ranked. So that when number 5 NU knocks off OSU for the B1G CCG, we are taken seriously enough to jump into contention for the marbles. Otherwise we risk being left outside for another all SEC sausage fest.

I don't have an actual opinion on OSU, but an inflated opinion of ANY B1G team could prove a later blessing to any other team in the conference.

Sorry, just thinking logically, which may offend some.

If we're undefeated, we're playing for it. End of story. If we have 1 loss, we aren't playing for it. It's not all that complicated. A 1 loss team will not jump an undefeated Nebraska team. A 1 loss Nebraska team, probably isn't going to jump too many other 1 loss teams based on where we're starting, and where that likely loss came from (michigan, or late in the season)

But would an undefeated Nebraska team jump a 1 loss team (especially if it's Alabama or another SEC team) if we beat an Ohio State team that isn't in also in the running for the MNC?

 

[StPaulHusker]

Ok, folks, we gotta get this straight.

OSU IS IN FACT AS GOOD AS THE RANKING.

Now, hear me out. We need this, if we get to Indy. Because it is exactly that claim (OSU is overrated) that could end up keeping NU out of a MNC game.

We need to spread the word that OSU is, in fact, as good as they are currently ranked. So that when number 5 NU knocks off OSU for the B1G CCG, we are taken seriously enough to jump into contention for the marbles. Otherwise we risk being left outside for another all SEC sausage fest.

I don't have an actual opinion on OSU, but an inflated opinion of ANY B1G team could prove a later blessing to any other team in the conference.

Sorry, just thinking logically, which may offend some.

If we're undefeated, we're playing for it. End of story. If we have 1 loss, we aren't playing for it. It's not all that complicated. A 1 loss team will not jump an undefeated Nebraska team. A 1 loss Nebraska team, probably isn't going to jump too many other 1 loss teams based on where we're starting, and where that likely loss came from (michigan, or late in the season)

But would an undefeated Nebraska team jump a 1 loss team (especially if it's Alabama or another SEC team) if we beat an Ohio State team that isn't in also in the running for the MNC?

I would say that if there were 2 undefeated teams that won their conference championship or even an undefeated Notre Dame as in the case last year, there would not have been an SEC team in the national championship. KState, Oregon, and ND were all ranked ahead of Bama when Bama lost to Tex AM. They would have remained ahead regardless of what happened in the SEC Championship

 

[kchusker_chris]

But would an undefeated Nebraska team jump a 1 loss team (especially if it's Alabama or another SEC team) if we beat an Ohio State team that isn't in also in the running for the MNC?

we wouldn't need to jump them, we'd already be ahead of them. you'll have a hard time finding a season where a 1 loss team jumped an undefeated team from one of the SEC/Pac12/Big12/B1G. Just isn't going to happen. We aren't Boise, we aren't Utah. We'll be fine. Now if we've got a bunch of 1-2 loss teams...we aren't going to stand a chance regardless of how highly ranked Ohio State is. We're just starting to low, and our loss isn't going to be in week 4, it'll be in week 11 or 12. The only way I see us jumping a 1 loss SEC team is if that SEC team isn't playing for the SEC championship. Even then, I think we'll be one of the lower rated 1 loss teams. We'd have to have a lot of 2 loss teams.

 

[BOJ]

But would an undefeated Nebraska team jump a 1 loss team (especially if it's Alabama or another SEC team) if we beat an Ohio State team that isn't in also in the running for the MNC?

we wouldn't need to jump them, we'd already be ahead of them. you'll have a hard time finding a season where a 1 loss team jumped an undefeated team from one of the SEC/Pac12/Big12/B1G. Just isn't going to happen. We aren't Boise, we aren't Utah. We'll be fine. Now if we've got a bunch of 1-2 loss teams...we aren't going to stand a chance regardless of how highly ranked Ohio State is. We're just starting to low, and our loss isn't going to be in week 4, it'll be in week 11 or 12. The only way I see us jumping a 1 loss SEC team is if that SEC team isn't playing for the SEC championship. Even then, I think we'll be one of the lower rated 1 loss teams. We'd have to have a lot of 2 loss teams.

just for numbers (BCS rankings top):

2012: no one loss above a zero

2011: ditto

2010: same

2009: Florida one spot ahead of Boise

2008: five teams ahead of Utah and then two ahead of Boise

2007: several two loss teams above Hawaii

2006: several one and two losses above Boise

2005: none

2004: Texas and Cal above Utah and a couple two losses above Boise

2003: none

2002: none

2001: none

2000: none

1999: 11 teams ahead of Marshall with a couple three loss teams

1998: nine above Tulane with a couple of two losses

So, yes, kchusker's logic checks out; it would seem that if Nebraska is undefeated, there is no concern about being jumped by a one losser as Nebraska is not Tulane, Marshall, Boise, Utah, or Hawaii--I think you are safe.

 

[jsneb83]

But would an undefeated Nebraska team jump a 1 loss team (especially if it's Alabama or another SEC team) if we beat an Ohio State team that isn't in also in the running for the MNC?

we wouldn't need to jump them, we'd already be ahead of them. you'll have a hard time finding a season where a 1 loss team jumped an undefeated team from one of the SEC/Pac12/Big12/B1G. Just isn't going to happen. We aren't Boise, we aren't Utah. We'll be fine. Now if we've got a bunch of 1-2 loss teams...we aren't going to stand a chance regardless of how highly ranked Ohio State is. We're just starting to low, and our loss isn't going to be in week 4, it'll be in week 11 or 12. The only way I see us jumping a 1 loss SEC team is if that SEC team isn't playing for the SEC championship. Even then, I think we'll be one of the lower rated 1 loss teams. We'd have to have a lot of 2 loss teams.

just for numbers (BCS rankings top):

2012: no one loss above a zero

2011: ditto

2010: same

2009: Florida one spot ahead of Boise

2008: five teams ahead of Utah and then two ahead of Boise

2007: several two loss teams above Hawaii

2006: several one and two losses above Boise

2005: none

2004: Texas and Cal above Utah and a couple two losses above Boise

2003: none

2002: none

2001: none

2000: none

1999: 11 teams ahead of Marshall with a couple three loss teams

1998: nine above Tulane with a couple of two losses

So, yes, kchusker's logic checks out; it would seem that if Nebraska is undefeated, there is no concern about being jumped by a one losser as Nebraska is not Tulane, Marshall, Boise, Utah, or Hawaii--I think you are safe.

I know that we would not get jumped by 1-loss teams, but if we were to beat Ohio State (or any team in the CCG) that isn't in national title, do you think we would be able to jump a 1-loss Alabama if they were ahead of us to play for the MNC?

 

[Landlord]

But would an undefeated Nebraska team jump a 1 loss team (especially if it's Alabama or another SEC team) if we beat an Ohio State team that isn't in also in the running for the MNC?

we wouldn't need to jump them, we'd already be ahead of them. you'll have a hard time finding a season where a 1 loss team jumped an undefeated team from one of the SEC/Pac12/Big12/B1G. Just isn't going to happen. We aren't Boise, we aren't Utah. We'll be fine. Now if we've got a bunch of 1-2 loss teams...we aren't going to stand a chance regardless of how highly ranked Ohio State is. We're just starting to low, and our loss isn't going to be in week 4, it'll be in week 11 or 12. The only way I see us jumping a 1 loss SEC team is if that SEC team isn't playing for the SEC championship. Even then, I think we'll be one of the lower rated 1 loss teams. We'd have to have a lot of 2 loss teams.

just for numbers (BCS rankings top):

2012: no one loss above a zero

2011: ditto

2010: same

2009: Florida one spot ahead of Boise

2008: five teams ahead of Utah and then two ahead of Boise

2007: several two loss teams above Hawaii

2006: several one and two losses above Boise

2005: none

2004: Texas and Cal above Utah and a couple two losses above Boise

2003: none

2002: none

2001: none

2000: none

1999: 11 teams ahead of Marshall with a couple three loss teams

1998: nine above Tulane with a couple of two losses

So, yes, kchusker's logic checks out; it would seem that if Nebraska is undefeated, there is no concern about being jumped by a one losser as Nebraska is not Tulane, Marshall, Boise, Utah, or Hawaii--I think you are safe.

I know that we would not get jumped by 1-loss teams, but if we were to beat Ohio State (or any team in the CCG) that isn't in national title, do you think we would be able to jump a 1-loss Alabama if they were ahead of us to play for the MNC?

The point is that they wouldn't be ahead of us.