Paradoxical Seasons

[Branno]

Throw the numbers out the window and answer me this question.

Who would you be more worried about running the football?

Braxton Miller vs Collin Klein

Dennard Robinson vs Colt McCoy

RG3 is irrelevant because we played him one time.

If you can't see the clear gap in athleticism between the Big Ten QBs we listed and The Big 12 ones I'm sorry.

so now you are saying that all Big Ten qb's are more athletic than the Big 12 qb's?

He specifically said the ones listed. Are you just trying to stir people up?

no just an exact answer. You can't say 2 qb's that are good then say there is a clear gap between two conferences.

There are 2 QBs from the Big 12 that immediately come to mind when thinking of athletic dual threat QBs that Nebraska had to face.

RG3 and Vince Young.

I'd say Braxton Miller, Russell Wilson, Dennard Robinson, and Colter are on their level or better at running.

 

[True2tRA]

Throw the numbers out the window and answer me this question.

Who would you be more worried about running the football?

Braxton Miller vs Collin Klein

Dennard Robinson vs Colt McCoy

RG3 is irrelevant because we played him one time.

If you can't see the clear gap in athleticism between the Big Ten QBs[\b] we listed[\b] and The Big 12 ones I'm sorry.

so now you are saying that all Big Ten qb's are more athletic than the Big 12 qb's?

I hate everything

Hey, I just got back from Gas n' Shop, got you a Snickers to EZ. Better?

 

[husker_99]

Throw the numbers out the window and answer me this question.

Who would you be more worried about running the football?

Braxton Miller vs Collin Klein

Dennard Robinson vs Colt McCoy

RG3 is irrelevant because we played him one time.

If you can't see the clear gap in athleticism between the Big Ten QBs we listed and The Big 12 ones I'm sorry.

so now you are saying that all Big Ten qb's are more athletic than the Big 12 qb's?

He specifically said the ones listed. Are you just trying to stir people up?

no just an exact answer. You can't say 2 qb's that are good then say there is a clear gap between two conferences.

Yes you can.

you can if you want but that doesn't mean you are right.

 

[husker_99]

Throw the numbers out the window and answer me this question.

Who would you be more worried about running the football?

Braxton Miller vs Collin Klein

Dennard Robinson vs Colt McCoy

RG3 is irrelevant because we played him one time.

If you can't see the clear gap in athleticism between the Big Ten QBs we listed and The Big 12 ones I'm sorry.

so now you are saying that all Big Ten qb's are more athletic than the Big 12 qb's?

He specifically said the ones listed. Are you just trying to stir people up?

no just an exact answer. You can't say 2 qb's that are good then say there is a clear gap between two conferences.

There is a reason that we are even having to clarify what another poster said. Because comprehension isn't your strong suit. We are discussing the three that were brought up and I specifically stated we are talking about those three. Not the entire league.

yes i know my argument and then posted 3 justified with stats that you would have to worry about the run with them. then you start talking about explosiveness which has nothing to do with the argument.

 

[EZ-E]

Correct. However, the poster exclaimed that the Big 12 QBs were pass first guys not run first guys. The stats you gave us, prove his point. The three he was talking about are run-first guys that we have played multiple times over the past two seasons.

 

[walksalone]

1) Colt McCoy came to UT as a pocket passer and only developed into a decent running QB his junior/Senior year. Telling us he ran for 500 yards two years isn't much. That's less than 60 a game.

2) Will give you RG3.

3) You can't be serious comparing Klein to Miller. Miller is by far and away the more explosive QB

Here's my list

1) Russell Wilson (no explanation needed)

2) Dennard Robinson

3) Braxton Miller

You proved MR A's point by giving stats. The last two on my list were spread-option QBs. You can't possibly say that McCoy was a better runner than either of them. In the Big 12 QBs were dropping back and throwing 40-50 times a game. Not the case with these three I listed. That was Mr. A's point.

his point was that the Big12 had no dual threat qb's. . Mccoy could run but as his line became better he didn't have to run as much. I gave stats to prove that all 3 were about the same give or take. Vince Young playing 3 seasons only had 500 more rushing yards per season than Mccoy and played in a passing oriented offense, would you say Young can't run?

just for kicks both Texas and Baylor run spread passing offense.

McCoy: pretty good arm and could run if needed - not a dual threat QB

Klein: Better at running the ball than throwing it - not a dual threat QB

RG III - could run and throw the ball - a dual threat QB

 

[husker_99]

1) Colt McCoy came to UT as a pocket passer and only developed into a decent running QB his junior/Senior year. Telling us he ran for 500 yards two years isn't much. That's less than 60 a game.

2) Will give you RG3.

3) You can't be serious comparing Klein to Miller. Miller is by far and away the more explosive QB

Here's my list

1) Russell Wilson (no explanation needed)

2) Dennard Robinson

3) Braxton Miller

You proved MR A's point by giving stats. The last two on my list were spread-option QBs. You can't possibly say that McCoy was a better runner than either of them. In the Big 12 QBs were dropping back and throwing 40-50 times a game. Not the case with these three I listed. That was Mr. A's point.

his point was that the Big12 had no dual threat qb's. . Mccoy could run but as his line became better he didn't have to run as much. I gave stats to prove that all 3 were about the same give or take. Vince Young playing 3 seasons only had 500 more rushing yards per season than Mccoy and played in a passing oriented offense, would you say Young can't run?

just for kicks both Texas and Baylor run spread passing offense.

McCoy: pretty good arm and could run if needed - not a dual threat QB

Klein: Better at running the ball than throwing it - not a dual threat QB

RG III - could run and throw the ball - a dual threat QB

is Russell Wilson a dual threat qb?

 

[EZ-E]

1) Colt McCoy came to UT as a pocket passer and only developed into a decent running QB his junior/Senior year. Telling us he ran for 500 yards two years isn't much. That's less than 60 a game.

2) Will give you RG3.

3) You can't be serious comparing Klein to Miller. Miller is by far and away the more explosive QB

Here's my list

1) Russell Wilson (no explanation needed)

2) Dennard Robinson

3) Braxton Miller

You proved MR A's point by giving stats. The last two on my list were spread-option QBs. You can't possibly say that McCoy was a better runner than either of them. In the Big 12 QBs were dropping back and throwing 40-50 times a game. Not the case with these three I listed. That was Mr. A's point.

his point was that the Big12 had no dual threat qb's. . Mccoy could run but as his line became better he didn't have to run as much. I gave stats to prove that all 3 were about the same give or take. Vince Young playing 3 seasons only had 500 more rushing yards per season than Mccoy and played in a passing oriented offense, would you say Young can't run?

just for kicks both Texas and Baylor run spread passing offense.

McCoy: pretty good arm and could run if needed - not a dual threat QB

Klein: Better at running the ball than throwing it - not a dual threat QB

RG III - could run and throw the ball - a dual threat QB

That's the thing. He just admitted in this post that Mr A and I are right and he's arguing a different point here. I believe around a page ago I said that The Big 12 run spread passing offenses and tOSU, MU, and Northwestern are more Spread Option offenses. Big difference.

 

[walksalone]

1) Colt McCoy came to UT as a pocket passer and only developed into a decent running QB his junior/Senior year. Telling us he ran for 500 yards two years isn't much. That's less than 60 a game.

2) Will give you RG3.

3) You can't be serious comparing Klein to Miller. Miller is by far and away the more explosive QB

Here's my list

1) Russell Wilson (no explanation needed)

2) Dennard Robinson

3) Braxton Miller

You proved MR A's point by giving stats. The last two on my list were spread-option QBs. You can't possibly say that McCoy was a better runner than either of them. In the Big 12 QBs were dropping back and throwing 40-50 times a game. Not the case with these three I listed. That was Mr. A's point.

his point was that the Big12 had no dual threat qb's. . Mccoy could run but as his line became better he didn't have to run as much. I gave stats to prove that all 3 were about the same give or take. Vince Young playing 3 seasons only had 500 more rushing yards per season than Mccoy and played in a passing oriented offense, would you say Young can't run?

just for kicks both Texas and Baylor run spread passing offense.

McCoy: pretty good arm and could run if needed - not a dual threat QB

Klein: Better at running the ball than throwing it - not a dual threat QB

RG III - could run and throw the ball - a dual threat QB

is Russell Wilson a dual threat qb?

did I say he wasn't?

 

[walksalone]

That's the thing. He just admitted in this post that Mr A and I are right and he's arguing a different point here. I believe around a page ago I said that The Big 12 run spread passing offenses and tOSU, MU, and Northwestern are more Spread Option offenses. Big difference.

Sorry EZ, just wanting to clarify a point I think that was missed by a certain somebody...

 

[husker_99]

1) Colt McCoy came to UT as a pocket passer and only developed into a decent running QB his junior/Senior year. Telling us he ran for 500 yards two years isn't much. That's less than 60 a game.

2) Will give you RG3.

3) You can't be serious comparing Klein to Miller. Miller is by far and away the more explosive QB

Here's my list

1) Russell Wilson (no explanation needed)

2) Dennard Robinson

3) Braxton Miller

You proved MR A's point by giving stats. The last two on my list were spread-option QBs. You can't possibly say that McCoy was a better runner than either of them. In the Big 12 QBs were dropping back and throwing 40-50 times a game. Not the case with these three I listed. That was Mr. A's point.

his point was that the Big12 had no dual threat qb's. . Mccoy could run but as his line became better he didn't have to run as much. I gave stats to prove that all 3 were about the same give or take. Vince Young playing 3 seasons only had 500 more rushing yards per season than Mccoy and played in a passing oriented offense, would you say Young can't run?

just for kicks both Texas and Baylor run spread passing offense.

McCoy: pretty good arm and could run if needed - not a dual threat QB

Klein: Better at running the ball than throwing it - not a dual threat QB

RG III - could run and throw the ball - a dual threat QB

is Russell Wilson a dual threat qb?

did I say he wasn't?

asking a question.

 

[EZ-E]

1) Colt McCoy came to UT as a pocket passer and only developed into a decent running QB his junior/Senior year. Telling us he ran for 500 yards two years isn't much. That's less than 60 a game.

2) Will give you RG3.

3) You can't be serious comparing Klein to Miller. Miller is by far and away the more explosive QB

Here's my list

1) Russell Wilson (no explanation needed)

2) Dennard Robinson

3) Braxton Miller

You proved MR A's point by giving stats. The last two on my list were spread-option QBs. You can't possibly say that McCoy was a better runner than either of them. In the Big 12 QBs were dropping back and throwing 40-50 times a game. Not the case with these three I listed. That was Mr. A's point.

his point was that the Big12 had no dual threat qb's. . Mccoy could run but as his line became better he didn't have to run as much. I gave stats to prove that all 3 were about the same give or take. Vince Young playing 3 seasons only had 500 more rushing yards per season than Mccoy and played in a passing oriented offense, would you say Young can't run?

just for kicks both Texas and Baylor run spread passing offense.

McCoy: pretty good arm and could run if needed - not a dual threat QB

Klein: Better at running the ball than throwing it - not a dual threat QB

RG III - could run and throw the ball - a dual threat QB

is Russell Wilson a dual threat qb?

Russell Wilson happened to have a guy running the football that happened to break a ton of TD records. So he didn't need to run the football. It really shouldn't be used in the argument, however Russell Wilson has proven in the NFL that he can run the football. Name me Colt McCoy's running back his junior or senior year.

 

[Branno]

1) Colt McCoy came to UT as a pocket passer and only developed into a decent running QB his junior/Senior year. Telling us he ran for 500 yards two years isn't much. That's less than 60 a game.

2) Will give you RG3.

3) You can't be serious comparing Klein to Miller. Miller is by far and away the more explosive QB

Here's my list

1) Russell Wilson (no explanation needed)

2) Dennard Robinson

3) Braxton Miller

You proved MR A's point by giving stats. The last two on my list were spread-option QBs. You can't possibly say that McCoy was a better runner than either of them. In the Big 12 QBs were dropping back and throwing 40-50 times a game. Not the case with these three I listed. That was Mr. A's point.

his point was that the Big12 had no dual threat qb's. . Mccoy could run but as his line became better he didn't have to run as much. I gave stats to prove that all 3 were about the same give or take. Vince Young playing 3 seasons only had 500 more rushing yards per season than Mccoy and played in a passing oriented offense, would you say Young can't run?

just for kicks both Texas and Baylor run spread passing offense.

McCoy: pretty good arm and could run if needed - not a dual threat QB

Klein: Better at running the ball than throwing it - not a dual threat QB

RG III - could run and throw the ball - a dual threat QB

is Russell Wilson a dual threat qb?

Yes!

 

[husker_99]

1) Colt McCoy came to UT as a pocket passer and only developed into a decent running QB his junior/Senior year. Telling us he ran for 500 yards two years isn't much. That's less than 60 a game.

2) Will give you RG3.

3) You can't be serious comparing Klein to Miller. Miller is by far and away the more explosive QB

Here's my list

1) Russell Wilson (no explanation needed)

2) Dennard Robinson

3) Braxton Miller

You proved MR A's point by giving stats. The last two on my list were spread-option QBs. You can't possibly say that McCoy was a better runner than either of them. In the Big 12 QBs were dropping back and throwing 40-50 times a game. Not the case with these three I listed. That was Mr. A's point.

his point was that the Big12 had no dual threat qb's. . Mccoy could run but as his line became better he didn't have to run as much. I gave stats to prove that all 3 were about the same give or take. Vince Young playing 3 seasons only had 500 more rushing yards per season than Mccoy and played in a passing oriented offense, would you say Young can't run?

just for kicks both Texas and Baylor run spread passing offense.

McCoy: pretty good arm and could run if needed - not a dual threat QB

Klein: Better at running the ball than throwing it - not a dual threat QB

RG III - could run and throw the ball - a dual threat QB

That's the thing. He just admitted in this post that Mr A and I are right and he's arguing a different point here. I believe around a page ago I said that The Big 12 run spread passing offenses and tOSU, MU, and Northwestern are more Spread Option offenses. Big difference.

and then i showed you with a first passing offense they can put up similar numbers and if you want to ignore the stats that's on you.

 

[MLB 51]

1) Colt McCoy came to UT as a pocket passer and only developed into a decent running QB his junior/Senior year. Telling us he ran for 500 yards two years isn't much. That's less than 60 a game.

2) Will give you RG3.

3) You can't be serious comparing Klein to Miller. Miller is by far and away the more explosive QB

Here's my list

1) Russell Wilson (no explanation needed)

2) Dennard Robinson

3) Braxton Miller

You proved MR A's point by giving stats. The last two on my list were spread-option QBs. You can't possibly say that McCoy was a better runner than either of them. In the Big 12 QBs were dropping back and throwing 40-50 times a game. Not the case with these three I listed. That was Mr. A's point.

his point was that the Big12 had no dual threat qb's. . Mccoy could run but as his line became better he didn't have to run as much. I gave stats to prove that all 3 were about the same give or take. Vince Young playing 3 seasons only had 500 more rushing yards per season than Mccoy and played in a passing oriented offense, would you say Young can't run?

just for kicks both Texas and Baylor run spread passing offense.

McCoy: pretty good arm and could run if needed - not a dual threat QB

Klein: Better at running the ball than throwing it - not a dual threat QB

RG III - could run and throw the ball - a dual threat QB

That's the thing. He just admitted in this post that Mr A and I are right and he's arguing a different point here. I believe around a page ago I said that The Big 12 run spread passing offenses and tOSU, MU, and Northwestern are more Spread Option offenses. Big difference.

and then i showed you with a first passing offense they can put up similar numbers and if you want to ignore the stats that's on you.

You won't win this. You know that don't you?