****Fall Camp Twitter Thread**** aka the RG44 love fest

GM_Tood said:
deedsker said:
Mavric said:
Landlord of Memorial Stadium said:
Hearing rumors that practice has been completely shut down to local media again, so he might in fact be quite bitter.
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Cue the "Bo can't deal with the media" complaints in 3...2...
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He looks like the kid from Little Family Big World

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ColoradoHusk said:
nublackshirt00 said:
@dirkchatelain

According to the BTN crew, Nebraska will go 28-0 this fall, beating opponents by an average of 437-4.

To me, sounds like Dirky's jealous that BTN was granted full access! There's no doubt that some of the local media have been whining about how little access they have been granted during fall camp!
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Dirk was obviously joking. In a later tweet, he said the jab was a joke. He respects those guys and enjoys their work.
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Welcome to the board Dirk. Glad you made it.

 
Mills said:
sd said:
Steven M. Sipple ‏@HuskerExtraSip2m

Ex-#Huskers great Barrett Ruud, on Pelini's defense: "It wasn't hard to learn. Bo's thing is detail. He doesn't let you fake being right."
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Probably my favorite tweet of the day.
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Ok. With all due respect to Mr. Ruud. How comparable is the complication of Bo's 2003 defensive scheme, as a first time D coordinator, at a school who had just had their worst season defensively in 4 decades to that of a 4th-6th year head coach, in the 6th year of his program, with now a decade of defensive management experience in the college game in 3 different conferences? I just dont think the two are even close to the same realm of complication. Even in 2009, Bo and/or Carl said that they were throwing more and more at the players with each week, and that the full compliment of the Bo's schemes had still not been fully implemented even by the end of 2009.

Blake Lawrence has played for Bo a lot more recently. He straight up warned Josh Banderas on a big red wrap up interview last year that the defense was more complicated and will require more focus and concentration than most of the classes he would be taking throughout his college career.

 
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sd said:
Steven M. Sipple ‏@HuskerExtraSip2m

Ex-#Huskers great Barrett Ruud, on Pelini's defense: "It wasn't hard to learn. Bo's thing is detail. He doesn't let you fake being right."

Steven M. Sipple ‏@HuskerExtraSip2m

Hearing Ruud's comments makes me even more impressed with true freshman MLB Josh Banderas' rise in preseason camp. Not an easy job. #Huskers
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Meh. Ruud's statement is a bit of an oxymoron. It's not hard to learn - but you have to know the details. Cooking isn't really hard to learn, either, but if you don't "know the details" you're going to ruin a lot of meals.

I'll take Ruud's statement with a grain of salt, knowing he's said it as a guy who's played seven years in the NFL in five different defenses. As a Freshman coming in to this program I'm sure he'd have a different take on how hard this defense is to master.

And when only those who've mastered it get field time, there's a reason better athletes stand on the sidelines while smarter, less-athletic guys play.

 
Mr. Accountability said:
Mills said:
sd said:
Steven M. Sipple ‏@HuskerExtraSip2m

Ex-#Huskers great Barrett Ruud, on Pelini's defense: "It wasn't hard to learn. Bo's thing is detail. He doesn't let you fake being right."
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Probably my favorite tweet of the day.
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Ok. With all due respect to Mr. Ruud. How comparable is the complication of Bo's 2003 defensive scheme, as a first time D coordinator, at a school who had just had their worst season defensively in 4 decades to that of a 4th-6th year head coach, in the 6th year of his program, with now a decade of defensive management experience in the college game in 3 different conferences? I just dont think the two are even close to the same realm of complication. Even in 2009, Bo and/or Carl said that they were throwing more and more at the players with each week, and that the full compliment of the Bo's schemes had still not been fully implemented even by the end of 2009.

Blake Lawrence has played for Bo a lot more recently. He straight up warned Josh Banderas on a big red wrap up interview last year that the defense was more complicated and will require more focus and concentration than most of the classes he would be taking throughout his college career.
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knapplc said:
sd said:
Steven M. Sipple ‏@HuskerExtraSip2m

Ex-#Huskers great Barrett Ruud, on Pelini's defense: "It wasn't hard to learn. Bo's thing is detail. He doesn't let you fake being right."

Steven M. Sipple ‏@HuskerExtraSip2m

Hearing Ruud's comments makes me even more impressed with true freshman MLB Josh Banderas' rise in preseason camp. Not an easy job. #Huskers
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Meh. Ruud's statement is a bit of an oxymoron. It's not hard to learn - but you have to know the details. Cooking isn't really hard to learn, either, but if you don't "know the details" you're going to ruin a lot of meals.

I'll take Ruud's statement with a grain of salt, knowing he's said it as a guy who's played seven years in the NFL in five different defenses. As a Freshman coming in to this program I'm sure he'd have a different take on how hard this defense is to master.

And when only those who've mastered it get field time, there's a reason better athletes stand on the sidelines while smarter, less-athletic guys play.
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With all due respect to you posters, Ruud probably knows way more about Pelini's defense than both of you put together.

To use the cooking analogy, there's a lot of edible meals you can cook without knowing the details. But the difference between edible and a culinary delight is all about the details. I think there's a lot of degrees or shadings to how complicated the defense is. There's been players who got on the field quickly (Glenn, Gomes, David, etc.), so it's not as black and white and easily digested of a topic as we perhaps try to make it.

 
RedDenver said:
Mr. Accountability said:
Mills said:
Probably my favorite tweet of the day.
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Ok. With all due respect to Mr. Ruud. How comparable is the complication of Bo's 2003 defensive scheme, as a first time D coordinator, at a school who had just had their worst season defensively in 4 decades to that of a 4th-6th year head coach, in the 6th year of his program, with now a decade of defensive management experience in the college game in 3 different conferences? I just dont think the two are even close to the same realm of complication. Even in 2009, Bo and/or Carl said that they were throwing more and more at the players with each week, and that the full compliment of the Bo's schemes had still not been fully implemented even by the end of 2009.

Blake Lawrence has played for Bo a lot more recently. He straight up warned Josh Banderas on a big red wrap up interview last year that the defense was more complicated and will require more focus and concentration than most of the classes he would be taking throughout his college career.
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knapplc said:
sd said:
Steven M. Sipple ‏@HuskerExtraSip2m

Ex-#Huskers great Barrett Ruud, on Pelini's defense: "It wasn't hard to learn. Bo's thing is detail. He doesn't let you fake being right."

Steven M. Sipple ‏@HuskerExtraSip2m

Hearing Ruud's comments makes me even more impressed with true freshman MLB Josh Banderas' rise in preseason camp. Not an easy job. #Huskers
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Meh. Ruud's statement is a bit of an oxymoron. It's not hard to learn - but you have to know the details. Cooking isn't really hard to learn, either, but if you don't "know the details" you're going to ruin a lot of meals.

I'll take Ruud's statement with a grain of salt, knowing he's said it as a guy who's played seven years in the NFL in five different defenses. As a Freshman coming in to this program I'm sure he'd have a different take on how hard this defense is to master.

And when only those who've mastered it get field time, there's a reason better athletes stand on the sidelines while smarter, less-athletic guys play.
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With all due respect to you posters, Ruud probably knows way more about Pelini's defense than both of you put together.

To use the cooking analogy, there's a lot of edible meals you can cook without knowing the details. But the difference between edible and a culinary delight is all about the details. I think there's a lot of degrees or shadings to how complicated the defense is. There's been players who got on the field quickly (Glenn, Gomes, David, etc.), so it's not as black and white and easily digested of a topic as we perhaps try to make it.
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Again comparing Ruud's ONE season under Bo, when he was a first time DC (at any level I might add) and taking over a defense with a new mentality and new scheme is not nearly the same amount of complication as what's being implemented now, or even in the past season or two-in Bo's 4th-6th years as a HC and having now a decade of college coordinator experience coming in 3 different conferences. With all due respect, common sense says it's they're even in the same realm when it comes to complication. I do respect Barret's opinion of course.

No, I didnt just copy/paste my previous post. Though I probably couldve.

 
RedDenver said:
With all due respect to you posters, Ruud probably knows way more about Pelini's defense than both of you put together.

To use the cooking analogy, there's a lot of edible meals you can cook without knowing the details. But the difference between edible and a culinary delight is all about the details. I think there's a lot of degrees or shadings to how complicated the defense is. There's been players who got on the field quickly (Glenn, Gomes, David, etc.), so it's not as black and white and easily digested of a topic as we perhaps try to make it.
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Cody Glenn started out of sheer necessity. We literally had nobody else to fill his role.

Gomes didn't start until the Texas Tech game in 2009, the sixth game of the season. The Missouri game the week before - during which he had a key interception - was where it "clicked" for him.

LaVonte David is a freak of nature, but even still the only reason he started as early as he did was due to Fisher's broken leg. The plan was to bring him along slowly, a la Dejon Gomes. David would succeed in any defense, though - the guy just has a nose for the ball. Despite that, Bo himself will tell you that David often did things wrong in the early going. It was just his crazy ability that made it all work out.

Both Gomes and David were JUCO transfers, guys you don't recruit unless they can make an immediate impact. It's rare to see a Mo Seisay who gets recruited but who doesn't see the field much coming from JUCO. But those situations happen, and you can't look at Gomes/David without looking at Seisay as well.

There are far more examples of guys taking the slower path under Pelini than guys getting on the field right away. It's not a coincidence - it's because the intricacies of Bo's defense take even football-smart guys time to fully grasp.

 
also, like knapp said, ruud is looking back at his time with bo after going through much more challenging football experiences. he might just remember it being less complicated.

 
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