Just wasn't sure where to put this (re: Bo's desire to be here)

HuskerLuke said:
My reaction is a bit different than most on here. I've been pretty much in Bo's camp through it all, but I'll be honest: it stings to hear he was looking to leave us for a mid-level SEC or ACC job. I totally get Ohio State, and don't blame him at all. That's a better job than Nebraska and it's his alma mater to boot. But Miami?Arkansas? I don't mean to be disrespectful to those schools, but those are not schools that should be able to steal Nebraska's head coach. If he's not happy here, then it's best for everyone that he move on. If he's turned a corner in the last year or two, that's another matter (assuming the on the field product improves), but yikes, I guess I fail to see why Nebraska is such a miserable place to coach.
If I weren't a Nebraska fan I would rather coach at the U or Florida. I think most people would - recruiting is way better for them, the weather, tax free etc etc

 
Who's going to touch Bo though? HIs defense is crap and only decent if playing average or below average teams. If I was an AD and knew that Bo was calling the shots on D I would think he is slipping.

 
I guess I'm of the perspective that i dont really understand the angst of this job searching stuff. We have to remember that this is a job. A career. First and foremost. The days of good old Tom Osborne the good little Nebraska kid whom we never had to worry about ever wanting to leave (1978 dispells that anyway) are done. College Football is big business. It's these coaches jobs. Bo's searching around because he's trying to advance his career. Now, if he starts to improve and the program begins to head in a drastically positive direction, and job offers come in for Bo, we're gonna have to penny up the dough it we want to keep him, or tell him good-bye. Anyone like to clarify to me what this is any different than any other job situation in the history of the free world? Also, I love how the haters' take on this whole thing as evolved. At first, at very first it was the language. Oh my gosh, but it was quickly realized that if youre suprised of that from Bo by now, you dont have pulse and dont know enough to form an opinion of him anyway. Then it was the attack on the fans. Oh good lordy he shouldnt of said that!! Well no sh#t sherlock. you think? But then there was perspective and came about a general understanding the time period and the emotions surrounding that. The smart ones will forgive him noting that we understand what it's like to rant. How many of you have ever vented out to your parents or someone you love as kids or teenagers "I hate you!!"? And that's parents or someone you love. He was privately lashing out at millions he doesnt even know. Big deal. Now we're to the "oh my god, Bo doesnt like it here, he wants to leave" issue. Oh well. My point is, if he really REALLY didnt want to be here, he'd been gone a long time ago. He changing. he's trying to do things to improve the program. He makes for damn sure the program is seen in a positive light in terms of the behavior of his player and so on. Throw the scoreboard out for a minute, look at everything Bo has done here for the program and try to say he doesnt care. This is ridiculous. Lastly, he may have wanted to leave at those times, but how does that equate to how he feels now? maybe he changed his attitude and decided to give it a full go here. Again, even Osborne wanted out, to Colorado of all places, at one time. Per usual, I'm the opitimistic Bo-backer here that says "nothing to see here folks". That's my take guys. Fire away.
I agree here. Mainly to the point that our society is a microwave. The oven died years ago

 
If I weren't a Nebraska fan I would rather coach at the U or Florida. I think most people would - recruiting is way better for them, the weather, tax free etc etc
Florida, certainly. Miami? I guess there's less scrutiny because the fans don't care?

I guess I'm of the perspective that i dont really understand the angst of this job searching stuff. We have to remember that this is a job. A career. First and foremost. The days of good old Tom Osborne the good little Nebraska kid whom we never had to worry about ever wanting to leave (1978 dispells that anyway) are done. College Football is big business. It's these coaches jobs. Bo's searching around because he's trying to advance his career.
I agree with your entire post, except for the bolded bit. Some of the jobs Pelini was after (allegedly) were pretty decided steps down for his career. To me that says he actively dislikes/disliked it here and that's what stings for me.

 
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I guess I'm of the perspective that i dont really understand the angst of this job searching stuff. We have to remember that this is a job. A career. First and foremost. The days of good old Tom Osborne the good little Nebraska kid whom we never had to worry about ever wanting to leave (1978 dispells that anyway) are done. College Football is big business. It's these coaches jobs. Bo's searching around because he's trying to advance his career. Now, if he starts to improve and the program begins to head in a drastically positive direction, and job offers come in for Bo, we're gonna have to penny up the dough it we want to keep him, or tell him good-bye. Anyone like to clarify to me what this is any different than any other job situation in the history of the free world?

Also, I love how the haters' take on this whole thing as evolved. At first, at very first it was the language. Oh my gosh, but it was quickly realized that if youre suprised of that from Bo by now, you dont have pulse and dont know enough to form an opinion of him anyway. Then it was the attack on the fans. Oh good lordy he shouldnt of said that!! Well no sh#t sherlock. you think? But then there was perspective and came about a general understanding the time period and the emotions surrounding that. The smart ones will forgive him noting that we understand what it's like to rant. How many of you have ever vented out to your parents or someone you love as kids or teenagers "I hate you!!"? And that's parents or someone you love. He was privately lashing out at millions he doesnt even know. Big deal. Now we're to the "oh my god, Bo doesnt like it here, he wants to leave" issue. Oh well. My point is, if he really REALLY didnt want to be here, he'd been gone a long time ago. He changing. he's trying to do things to improve the program. He makes for damn sure the program is seen in a positive light in terms of the behavior of his player and so on. Throw the scoreboard out for a minute, look at everything Bo has done here for the program and try to say he doesnt care. This is ridiculous.

Lastly, he may have wanted to leave at those times, but how does that equate to how he feels now? maybe he changed his attitude and decided to give it a full go here. Again, even Osborne wanted out, to Colorado of all places, at one time.

Per usual, I'm the opitimistic Bo-backer here that says "nothing to see here folks".

That's my take guys. Fire away.

Edit add: Tom Osborne considered taking the Michigan St head coach job before he was named AD. Cant remember how long before, but it was offered to him. Yes, our almighty hero almost came out of retirement to coach someone else. Why? It's a business people. The sooner everyone gets a grasp on that, the happier you'll all be.
I was always most irked by the fact that he wanted out. That was my beef from the moment I heard it. Especially in light of his repeated denials that he was looking.

http://sports.omaha.com/2012/04/11/pelini-nebraskas-a-destination-job/

Nebraska coach Bo Pelini said after practice Wednesday that reports suggesting he’ll be a candidate for the now-open Arkansas head coaching job are “ludicrous.”Early media speculation from some, including the New York Times, tabbed Pelini as one of Arkansas’ potential targets. Pelini hadn’t heard that, he told reporters Wednesday.

Pelini said he’s happy to be coaching at Nebraska and his focus is trying to win a championship with the Huskers.

“This is a destination job,” he said. “This isn’t a stepping stone job.”

Pelini said he’s probably one of about 20 coaches whose names are being “thrown around” now that Arkansas is looking for a new football coach after firing Bobby Petrino Tuesday night. But Pelini’s not sure how that speculation originated.

“If people want to throw my name around, that’s up to them,” Pelini said.
 
I have a great job at a great place...I look for jobs all the time though. You have to keep looking and you have to be your biggest advocate.

 
I guess I'm of the perspective that i dont really understand the angst of this job searching stuff. We have to remember that this is a job. A career. First and foremost. The days of good old Tom Osborne the good little Nebraska kid whom we never had to worry about ever wanting to leave (1978 dispells that anyway) are done. College Football is big business. It's these coaches jobs. Bo's searching around because he's trying to advance his career. Now, if he starts to improve and the program begins to head in a drastically positive direction, and job offers come in for Bo, we're gonna have to penny up the dough it we want to keep him, or tell him good-bye. Anyone like to clarify to me what this is any different than any other job situation in the history of the free world?

Lastly, he may have wanted to leave at those times, but how does that equate to how he feels now? maybe he changed his attitude and decided to give it a full go here. Again, even Osborne wanted out, to Colorado of all places, at one time.

Per usual, I'm the opitimistic Bo-backer here that says "nothing to see here folks".

That's my take guys. Fire away.

Edit add: Tom Osborne considered taking the Michigan St head coach job before he was named AD. Cant remember how long before, but it was offered to him. Yes, our almighty hero almost came out of retirement to coach someone else. Why? It's a business people. The sooner everyone gets a grasp on that, the happier you'll all be.
So you are saying Nebraska isn't a destination but a stepping stone? Might want to back up your claim other than what you heard about TO taking the Michigan St HC job.

 
I guess I'm of the perspective that i dont really understand the angst of this job searching stuff. We have to remember that this is a job. A career. First and foremost. The days of good old Tom Osborne the good little Nebraska kid whom we never had to worry about ever wanting to leave (1978 dispells that anyway) are done. College Football is big business. It's these coaches jobs. Bo's searching around because he's trying to advance his career. Now, if he starts to improve and the program begins to head in a drastically positive direction, and job offers come in for Bo, we're gonna have to penny up the dough it we want to keep him, or tell him good-bye. Anyone like to clarify to me what this is any different than any other job situation in the history of the free world?

Lastly, he may have wanted to leave at those times, but how does that equate to how he feels now? maybe he changed his attitude and decided to give it a full go here. Again, even Osborne wanted out, to Colorado of all places, at one time.

Per usual, I'm the opitimistic Bo-backer here that says "nothing to see here folks".

That's my take guys. Fire away.

Edit add: Tom Osborne considered taking the Michigan St head coach job before he was named AD. Cant remember how long before, but it was offered to him. Yes, our almighty hero almost came out of retirement to coach someone else. Why? It's a business people. The sooner everyone gets a grasp on that, the happier you'll all be.
So you are saying Nebraska isn't a destination but a stepping stone? Might want to back up your claim other than what you heard about TO taking the Michigan St HC job.
Its not about being a stepping stone or destination, not anymore. Way to many schools offer big dollars now so really you can go anywhere (Iowa, UL, Tenn, Oregon) and make a fortune. Remember that one 5 year contract or two can set you and your family and their families up for life. You have to look, you are doing yourself no favors if you don't. You don't think Saban would "look" if Texas offered a 10 year contract, guaranteed, worth 70 million dollars?

 
I guess I'm of the perspective that i dont really understand the angst of this job searching stuff. We have to remember that this is a job. A career. First and foremost. The days of good old Tom Osborne the good little Nebraska kid whom we never had to worry about ever wanting to leave (1978 dispells that anyway) are done. College Football is big business. It's these coaches jobs. Bo's searching around because he's trying to advance his career. Now, if he starts to improve and the program begins to head in a drastically positive direction, and job offers come in for Bo, we're gonna have to penny up the dough it we want to keep him, or tell him good-bye. Anyone like to clarify to me what this is any different than any other job situation in the history of the free world?

Lastly, he may have wanted to leave at those times, but how does that equate to how he feels now? maybe he changed his attitude and decided to give it a full go here. Again, even Osborne wanted out, to Colorado of all places, at one time.

Per usual, I'm the opitimistic Bo-backer here that says "nothing to see here folks".

That's my take guys. Fire away.

Edit add: Tom Osborne considered taking the Michigan St head coach job before he was named AD. Cant remember how long before, but it was offered to him. Yes, our almighty hero almost came out of retirement to coach someone else. Why? It's a business people. The sooner everyone gets a grasp on that, the happier you'll all be.
So you are saying Nebraska isn't a destination but a stepping stone? Might want to back up your claim other than what you heard about TO taking the Michigan St HC job.
Its not about being a stepping stone or destination, not anymore. Way to many schools offer big dollars now so really you can go anywhere (Iowa, UL, Tenn, Oregon) and make a fortune. Remember that one 5 year contract or two can set you and your family and their families up for life. You have to look, you are doing yourself no favors if you don't. You don't think Saban would "look" if Texas offered a 10 year contract, guaranteed, worth 70 million dollars?
Alabama would match that in a heart beat. Alabama is superior in everyway to Texas. Saban already has a statue of himself at Alabama. He's playing in the toughest football conference. The Big 12 is a joke now, it's a shadow of it's former self.

 
My point is, if he really REALLY didnt want to be here, he'd been gone a long time ago.

He'd been gone, assuming another school would have taken him, which they didn't. For all we know he tried to leave and was unable to.
If he was really against being here, he would be gone plain and simple. He would be SOMEWHERE except the University of Nebraska. That's why I say it was a desire to advance his career, not just a "I dont want to be at Nebraska anymore".

As far as comparing those jobs to the Nebraska job, I dont know. Is the Nebraska job really that prestine? C'mon folks. it's not. Rapid fanbase, ridiculous expectations at time. No in-state recruiting foundation. Recruiting to is difficult. Bo's doing all he can in that regard (minus breaking rules that we know of) and he still cant break the top 20 on a consistent basis. I can fully understand why he might seek another opportunity at a place like Miami or Arkansas where the local talent is higher caliber, in an effort to advance his career. Who doesnt want to make their job easier? Or go work for someone for equal or more pay where the job would be easier?

Also, we have to keep hammering that this was 2 years ago. Even if not a total rant and not meant (which I still believe it was-a knee jerk rant in what was 100% sure to be a private setting with folks he obviously confides in on a steady basis). Now 2 years later, who's to say he has none of those feelings. Two more years of his family being raised in Lincoln. Two more years of himself, wife and kids being engrained into the Lincoln and Nebraska lifestyle. Maybe now he does want to stay and make it work.

 
I guess I'm of the perspective that i dont really understand the angst of this job searching stuff. We have to remember that this is a job. A career. First and foremost. The days of good old Tom Osborne the good little Nebraska kid whom we never had to worry about ever wanting to leave (1978 dispells that anyway) are done. College Football is big business. It's these coaches jobs. Bo's searching around because he's trying to advance his career. Now, if he starts to improve and the program begins to head in a drastically positive direction, and job offers come in for Bo, we're gonna have to penny up the dough it we want to keep him, or tell him good-bye. Anyone like to clarify to me what this is any different than any other job situation in the history of the free world?

Lastly, he may have wanted to leave at those times, but how does that equate to how he feels now? maybe he changed his attitude and decided to give it a full go here. Again, even Osborne wanted out, to Colorado of all places, at one time.

Per usual, I'm the opitimistic Bo-backer here that says "nothing to see here folks".

That's my take guys. Fire away.

Edit add: Tom Osborne considered taking the Michigan St head coach job before he was named AD. Cant remember how long before, but it was offered to him. Yes, our almighty hero almost came out of retirement to coach someone else. Why? It's a business people. The sooner everyone gets a grasp on that, the happier you'll all be.
So you are saying Nebraska isn't a destination but a stepping stone? Might want to back up your claim other than what you heard about TO taking the Michigan St HC job.
Its not about being a stepping stone or destination, not anymore. Way to many schools offer big dollars now so really you can go anywhere (Iowa, UL, Tenn, Oregon) and make a fortune. Remember that one 5 year contract or two can set you and your family and their families up for life. You have to look, you are doing yourself no favors if you don't. You don't think Saban would "look" if Texas offered a 10 year contract, guaranteed, worth 70 million dollars?
Alabama would match that in a heart beat. Alabama is superior in everyway to Texas. Saban already has a statue of himself at Alabama. He's playing in the toughest football conference. The Big 12 is a joke now, it's a shadow of it's former self.
I agree and by "looking at Texas" Saban would now get a HUGE FAT DEAL with more guaranteed money. That is why you look, you have to look.

 
I guess I'm of the perspective that i dont really understand the angst of this job searching stuff. We have to remember that this is a job. A career. First and foremost. The days of good old Tom Osborne the good little Nebraska kid whom we never had to worry about ever wanting to leave (1978 dispells that anyway) are done. College Football is big business. It's these coaches jobs. Bo's searching around because he's trying to advance his career. Now, if he starts to improve and the program begins to head in a drastically positive direction, and job offers come in for Bo, we're gonna have to penny up the dough it we want to keep him, or tell him good-bye. Anyone like to clarify to me what this is any different than any other job situation in the history of the free world?

Lastly, he may have wanted to leave at those times, but how does that equate to how he feels now? maybe he changed his attitude and decided to give it a full go here. Again, even Osborne wanted out, to Colorado of all places, at one time.

Per usual, I'm the opitimistic Bo-backer here that says "nothing to see here folks".

That's my take guys. Fire away.

Edit add: Tom Osborne considered taking the Michigan St head coach job before he was named AD. Cant remember how long before, but it was offered to him. Yes, our almighty hero almost came out of retirement to coach someone else. Why? It's a business people. The sooner everyone gets a grasp on that, the happier you'll all be.
So you are saying Nebraska isn't a destination but a stepping stone? Might want to back up your claim other than what you heard about TO taking the Michigan St HC job.
Well lets see here. 4 coaches prior to Bo in the last 50 years bud. 2 were fired. 2 retired here. 2 were hired/promoted from within. One was a total anomoly that would lay under the guillotine for this program, university, state. You wanna back up YOUR claim that it IS a destination job and NOT a stepping stone? Might wanna gain a little perspective of what we're actually talking about here before you attack my point.

 
I guess I'm of the perspective that i dont really understand the angst of this job searching stuff. We have to remember that this is a job. A career. First and foremost. The days of good old Tom Osborne the good little Nebraska kid whom we never had to worry about ever wanting to leave (1978 dispells that anyway) are done. College Football is big business. It's these coaches jobs. Bo's searching around because he's trying to advance his career. Now, if he starts to improve and the program begins to head in a drastically positive direction, and job offers come in for Bo, we're gonna have to penny up the dough it we want to keep him, or tell him good-bye. Anyone like to clarify to me what this is any different than any other job situation in the history of the free world?

Lastly, he may have wanted to leave at those times, but how does that equate to how he feels now? maybe he changed his attitude and decided to give it a full go here. Again, even Osborne wanted out, to Colorado of all places, at one time.

Per usual, I'm the opitimistic Bo-backer here that says "nothing to see here folks".

That's my take guys. Fire away.

Edit add: Tom Osborne considered taking the Michigan St head coach job before he was named AD. Cant remember how long before, but it was offered to him. Yes, our almighty hero almost came out of retirement to coach someone else. Why? It's a business people. The sooner everyone gets a grasp on that, the happier you'll all be.
So you are saying Nebraska isn't a destination but a stepping stone? Might want to back up your claim other than what you heard about TO taking the Michigan St HC job.
Well lets see here. 4 coaches prior to Bo in the last 50 years bud. 2 were fired. 2 retired here. 2 were hired/promoted from within. One was a total anomoly that would lay under the guillotine for this program, university, state. You wanna back up YOUR claim that it IS a destination job and NOT a stepping stone? Might wanna gain a little perspective of what we're actually talking about here before you attack my point.
that's not how it works. I didn't make a claim just asked a question. on top of that drivel you didn't even answer the question.

 
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