Does the SEC circle jerk finally end today?

[tschu]

Will we hold other conferences to this standard?

UCLA lost to Stanford and only dropped 3 spots

Stanford lost to Utah and only dropped 6 spots

Are we going to flip sh#t in the same manner for those? What about when Oregon plays UCLA? When Oregon plays Stanford? What if Oregon State pulls an upset?

 

[California Husker]

One of the big differences this year is that the SEC has 1 pretty much consensus #1 team according to polls, computers, markets in Bama. Then it sort of drops off to a bunch of teams that are ~20th - 10th. I'm pretty sure a healthy Georgia could be in title contention, and LSU gets to the SECCG with 1 loss quite a lot if the season was played out 1000 times or whatever. But yeah, Missouri, South Carolina, A&M, Auburn - all very very good but not elite. It's not like the SEC has 4-5 top 10 teams this year. But they have ~7 top 20 teams. So you can't really say they're dominant, but they're still the best conference. There are plenty of scenarios where zero SEC teams make the title game

I am not trying to start an argument with you, but Georgia is a three loss team. Injuries are part of the game and every school has to deal with them. When Nebraska won the National Championship in 1994 they lost their starting qb (Tommy Frazier) to injury for most of the season...they lost the back up (Brook Beringer) for a game when they played a top 20 K-state team, and the starting free safety (Mike Mintor) was out for most of the year. I would contend that losing Frazier and Mintor (and Beringer for some time) would compare to anything Georgia is going through....And Nebraska went undefeated. Just sayin'

 

[louisianared]

Every time an SEC "power" loses its always followed by an excuse. When anyone else loses its because they weren't good enough.

Thus the same principal applies that most of us are talking about are shown here. SEC never fall because the only reason they loss is because the teams they were playing are THAT good, or someone was injured. Even though they are a 3 loss team they are really national contenders. No other conference in the nation gets that much leniancy.

Not saying we deserve to be higher, but we lost to a top 15 team and were knocked out of the top 25 and have barely sniffed the surface. SEC teams win close games against weak opponents, lose multiple games and hardly fall an inch.

 

[AgMarauder04]

The SEC might play "bigger" named teams but those same teams are sucking sh#t through a straw right now except for a few.

This argument does not hold water. Bigger OOC games are scheduled AT LEAST 5-7 years down the road, where it is impossible to predict quality. You can't claim the SEC intentionally schedules weak teams because the bigger names they currently play are on a downward slide.

I'm curious....what do you expect to happen? How far does an SEC team need to drop to be ok with you? Let's also remember rankings are a body of work, not simply one game. That's why we go up and down all the time in the rankings. The SEC has incredible talent. You want the same publicity as the SEC? Win. Consistently. Take 8 teams to the post-season and win most of your bowls, especially in the head to head with the SEC. Quit whining about other conferences and take care of your own sh#t.

 

[Stumpy1]

The SEC might play "bigger" named teams but those same teams are sucking sh#t through a straw right now except for a few.

This argument does not hold water. Bigger OOC games are scheduled AT LEAST 5-7 years down the road, where it is impossible to predict quality. You can't claim the SEC intentionally schedules weak teams because the bigger names they currently play are on a downward slide.

I'm curious....what do you expect to happen? How far does an SEC team need to drop to be ok with you? Let's also remember rankings are a body of work, not simply one game. That's why we go up and down all the time in the rankings. The SEC has incredible talent. You want the same publicity as the SEC? Win. Consistently. Take 8 teams to the post-season and win most of your bowls, especially in the head to head with the SEC. Quit whining about other conferences and take care of your own sh#t.

You really have blinders on if you can not see what is happening. The SEC gets credit for having a "strong" confrence because of a very few select teams in it but the same isn't done for any other confrence. It was stated earlier that when an unranked SEC team beats a ranked one, it is viewed that the SEC is just that tough. When an unranked B1G or any other confrence beats a ranked one, it is viewed as the confrence isn't very good. It is just the perception of the SEC that is pissing people off. This percetion has aided them into the MNC a few times.

 

[Count 'Bility]

The SEC does not play much as far as out of conference goes. Oh, ok. Georgia lost to Clemson. Well, we'll find out by year's ends that that's just not that impressive. We saw what happened to Clemson saturday, theyve been underwhelming since then anyway. Then the SEC beats up on each other like every other "weaker" conference and is automatically perceived as deep, strong. When an SEC team loses, they only drop 3-5 spots or so, and the team the beat them skyrockets. Sham is right. Georgia's big win against LSU? We're finding out how impressive that is is eh? But Alabama's gonna walk there way to a 3rd straight title if they dont lost ANOTHER home game in November and back into it, and remain the SEC's flag bearer so the perception can continue.

The only thing I can say that is subjective is the Big 10 just needs to step up and beat em on New Years day. Just win it.

I'm also of the opinion that Nebraska does not deserve to be ranked in either poll right now. We've done nothing to earn it, and have done everything in the past couple years to unearn it. But it's time to put up or shut up. College football and the Big 10 is wide open right now. Let's go win it. Time to change perception.

 

[Branno]

The SEC might play "bigger" named teams but those same teams are sucking sh#t through a straw right now except for a few.

This argument does not hold water. Bigger OOC games are scheduled AT LEAST 5-7 years down the road, where it is impossible to predict quality. You can't claim the SEC intentionally schedules weak teams because the bigger names they currently play are on a downward slide.

I'm curious....what do you expect to happen? How far does an SEC team need to drop to be ok with you? Let's also remember rankings are a body of work, not simply one game. That's why we go up and down all the time in the rankings. The SEC has incredible talent. You want the same publicity as the SEC? Win. Consistently. Take 8 teams to the post-season and win most of your bowls, especially in the head to head with the SEC. Quit whining about other conferences and take care of your own sh#t.

Or we could go the A&M route, join the SEC, lose games, still be ranked, and forget what a bottom feeder you were in the Big 12.

 

[AgMarauder04]

Or we could go the A&M route, join the SEC, lose games, still be ranked, and forget what a bottom feeder you were in the Big 12.

When were we a bottom feeder? You obviously mean last in the conference, so when was that? Was it recently?

I was also unaware performance in previous years was taken into account for the mid-year rankings. Especially performance of over 2 years ago. Please tell me how insulting my school has anything to do with this current discussion?

As far as this year, yes, we've lost two games. It happens when you have a TERRIBLE defense, but we are also scoring 40+ a game. If we lose another, we should probably drop out of the T25. It's football. It's why we play all 12 games. As long as there is a human element to the polls, someone will always be unhappy.

 

[deedsker]

Or we could go the A&M route, join the SEC, lose games, still be ranked, and forget what a bottom feeder you were in the Big 12.

When were we a bottom feeder? You obviously mean last in the conference, so when was that? Was it recently?

I was also unaware performance in previous years was taken into account for the mid-year rankings. Especially performance of over 2 years ago. Please tell me how insulting my school has anything to do with this current discussion?

It's funny because we have a more relevant Big 12 title and last time I checked, Nebraska is supposedly not relevant.

Btw, when was your last conference title game apperance?

This is why we laugh at the SEC for the carnage you have caused.

 

[Mavric]

Or we could go the A&M route, join the SEC, lose games, still be ranked, and forget what a bottom feeder you were in the Big 12.

When were we a bottom feeder? You obviously mean last in the conference, so when was that? Was it recently?

I was also unaware performance in previous years was taken into account for the mid-year rankings. Especially performance of over 2 years ago. Please tell me how insulting my school has anything to do with this current discussion?

It's funny because we have a more relevant Big 12 title and last time I checked, Nebraska is supposedly not relevant.

Btw, when was your last conference title game apperance?

This is why we laugh at the SEC for the carnage you have caused.

Hey! They have a "Conference Championship" from 2010 so back off a little.

 

[AgMarauder04]

Or we could go the A&M route, join the SEC, lose games, still be ranked, and forget what a bottom feeder you were in the Big 12.

When were we a bottom feeder? You obviously mean last in the conference, so when was that? Was it recently?

I was also unaware performance in previous years was taken into account for the mid-year rankings. Especially performance of over 2 years ago. Please tell me how insulting my school has anything to do with this current discussion?

It's funny because we have a more relevant Big 12 title and last time I checked, Nebraska is supposedly not relevant.

Btw, when was your last conference title game apperance?

This is why we laugh at the SEC for the carnage you have caused.

I don't think either of our performances in the Big Dumpster Fire conference have any impact on our "relevance" today.

 

[Mavric]

To answer the thread title: No (emphatically).

Ever since Urban Meyer guided Florida to a BCS national championship in 2006 and an SEC team won every BCS title since, we've wondered what it would take to finally end the SEC's dominance.
NCAA sanctions?

Alabama coach Nick Saban returning to the NFL?

Meyer using an SEC blueprint to build a championship team at Ohio State?

Well, if we've learned anything over the past two weeks, it's that the SEC might end up beating itself.

Over the past two weeks, five ranked SEC teams lost to lesser-ranked or unranked opponents. On Saturday alone, unranked Vanderbilt upset No. 15 Georgia 31-27, unranked Tennessee knocked off No. 11 South Carolina 23-21, No. 24 Auburn outlasted No. 7 Texas A&M 45-41 and unranked Ole Miss stunned No. 6 LSU 27-24.

As a result, with seven weeks left in the regular season, the SEC suddenly looks a lot like the ACC, Big Ten and Pac-12, with all of its eggs sitting in one or two baskets. When the initial BCS standings were released Sunday night, only two SEC teams -- No. 1 Alabama and No. 5 Missouri -- were ranked in the top 10. It's the first time since 2006, when the SEC's record streak of consecutive national titles began, that at least three of its teams weren't included in the top 10 of the initial BCS standings.

The SEC is its own worst enemy.

ESPN Article (if you can stomach it)

 

[AgMarauder04]

Good Article.

 

[Ratt Mhule]

To answer the thread title: No (emphatically).

Ever since Urban Meyer guided Florida to a BCS national championship in 2006 and an SEC team won every BCS title since, we've wondered what it would take to finally end the SEC's dominance.
NCAA sanctions?

Alabama coach Nick Saban returning to the NFL?

Meyer using an SEC blueprint to build a championship team at Ohio State?

Well, if we've learned anything over the past two weeks, it's that the SEC might end up beating itself.

Over the past two weeks, five ranked SEC teams lost to lesser-ranked or unranked opponents. On Saturday alone, unranked Vanderbilt upset No. 15 Georgia 31-27, unranked Tennessee knocked off No. 11 South Carolina 23-21, No. 24 Auburn outlasted No. 7 Texas A&M 45-41 and unranked Ole Miss stunned No. 6 LSU 27-24.

As a result, with seven weeks left in the regular season, the SEC suddenly looks a lot like the ACC, Big Ten and Pac-12, with all of its eggs sitting in one or two baskets. When the initial BCS standings were released Sunday night, only two SEC teams -- No. 1 Alabama and No. 5 Missouri -- were ranked in the top 10. It's the first time since 2006, when the SEC's record streak of consecutive national titles began, that at least three of its teams weren't included in the top 10 of the initial BCS standings.

The SEC is its own worst enemy.

ESPN Article (if you can stomach it)

The comments on that article are just a bunch of SEC fans making the "our team had injuries" excuse. So does Nebraska get a pass for Martinez not being 100% for the UCLA game? If we have a 100% running threat Martinez, the game possibly turns out differently, but were not in the SEC, so our injury excuse doesn't hold much weight...

 

[AgMarauder04]

Georgia's does. I'm sorry, but when every single skill player outside of your QB is injured and out for the year, the injury excuse is valid.