SI's Andy Staples weighs in on NU & Bo: At the end of the day...

Dirk has done his homework about Nebraska recruiting. Andy has a more global perspective. I found their conversation interesting.

 
NU5XChamps said:
I don't think any of this talk would be happening if we didn't keep getting blown out on national television. There were tough times and bad losses under TO but we were never embarrassed. This falls squarely on the shoulders of BO!!

I have been a big BO supporter but I am not sure that he can take us back to relevance, and that is the problem......
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Did you not watch the 1996 Arizona State game where we got SHUT OUT?

 
Joe_5700 said:
NU5XChamps said:
I don't think any of this talk would be happening if we didn't keep getting blown out on national television. There were tough times and bad losses under TO but we were never embarrassed. This falls squarely on the shoulders of BO!!

I have been a big BO supporter but I am not sure that he can take us back to relevance, and that is the problem......
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Did you not watch the 1996 Arizona State game where we got SHUT OUT?
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Better not look at several of TO's games against Oklahoma either back in the day. Or several bowl games he coached in. Fact is most people only remember that 4 years before he retired and they think thats how it always was.

 
http://sports.omaha.com/2013/11/14/discussion-pelini-and-nebraska-recruiting-is-bo-on-the-hot-seat/#.UoZUf3BwoVA

I thought this exchange would be embarrassing if your the OWH trying to tell everyone you're objective and don't have an agenda against Bo or that you didnt hire consultants to tell you to go negative to get more readers. (Which they've said and is BS) You have a national guy answering the questions and in direct contradiction of what you're trying to spout about how recruiting to NU is easy. But you keep having Dork hammer home BS until the national guy who has better things to do say "whatever" more or less and moves on. I appreciated the objectivity of Staples. He gave both good and bad but at least gives weight to the notion that this job here is tougher than many others you try to compare NU to when it comes to recruiting.

 
Indeed, that is all Pelini and his team can do at this point. And if somehow the Huskers can create and seize an opportunity to beat a 6.5-point road favorite whose defense allows only 3.47 yards a play, then Pelini will probably win the division and give himself an opportunity to spend another year in Lincoln. If the Huskers sputter again, however, if they end the season with the kind of bittersweet record they've had every year of Pelini's tenure, then -- fairly or not, wisely or not -- Perlman and Eichorst may elect to make a change.
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All in all, good article. I dunno that I agree with this last paragraph though. If we play a competitive game I think Pelini is safe. Regardless of whether we beat Sparty or not. We get blown out, well, that's when the trouble will start. Like da skers said, fans only remember Osborne in the 90s. People don't remember the blowout losses we suffered through before our period of dominance.
 
knapplc said:
I got the impression that he began that article before the Michigan game, with the intent of writing a hot-seat piece, but when we won the game he had to change tack and rewrite it a bit. There's still that tinge of "Husker Fans are sharpening their pitchforks" to the whole thing, as if a loss or two more and he's gone. Which is absurd.

The best thing about that article is Andy's mention of Phat Jack's, which is not overwhelmed with business by Lincolnites like it should be, but is a very well-known spot amongst the national media. His mention of Burnt Ends is a stab in the back though - that's something that should have stayed a secret for those in the know. If the rank-and-file Lincoln diners all get wise to Burnt Ends there won't be enough for those of us who truly deserve them.
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lol phat jacks Is slammed during lunch hours everytime I'm there
 
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NU5XChamps said:
I don't think any of this talk would be happening if we didn't keep getting blown out on national television. There were tough times and bad losses under TO but we were never embarrassed. This falls squarely on the shoulders of BO!!

I have been a big BO supporter but I am not sure that he can take us back to relevance, and that is the problem......
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I distinctly remember many a blow out under TO. I remember being up by 20 at half on Washington in Lincoln in 1990 or 1991, and getting the doors blown off in the 2nd half. That game was so similar to this year's game against UCLA it is scary. I also remember losing to Miami 31-0 in the Orange Bowl about the same time. Others have mentioned the 19-0 loss at ASU in 1996 coming off of a MNC. Or maybe the year we got blown out by OU in the Orange Bowl after beating them at home earlier that season. TO had many a blow out, don't kid yourself.

 
caveman99 said:
NU5XChamps said:
I don't think any of this talk would be happening if we didn't keep getting blown out on national television. There were tough times and bad losses under TO but we were never embarrassed. This falls squarely on the shoulders of BO!!

I have been a big BO supporter but I am not sure that he can take us back to relevance, and that is the problem......
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I distinctly remember many a blow out under TO. I remember being up by 20 at half on Washington in Lincoln in 1990 or 1991, and getting the doors blown off in the 2nd half. That game was so similar to this year's game against UCLA it is scary. I also remember losing to Miami 31-0 in the Orange Bowl about the same time. Others have mentioned the 19-0 loss at ASU in 1996 coming off of a MNC. Or maybe the year we got blown out by OU in the Orange Bowl after beating them at home earlier that season. TO had many a blow out, don't kid yourself.
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Washington and Miami split the national championship that year and our losses were 36-21 and 22-0. That's not too similar to letting a "pretty good" team get 600 or whatever yards on us. The only one that could possibly be considered embarrassing that you listed is ASU.

 
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da skers said:
Joe_5700 said:
NU5XChamps said:
I don't think any of this talk would be happening if we didn't keep getting blown out on national television. There were tough times and bad losses under TO but we were never embarrassed. This falls squarely on the shoulders of BO!!

I have been a big BO supporter but I am not sure that he can take us back to relevance, and that is the problem......
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Did you not watch the 1996 Arizona State game where we got SHUT OUT?
Click to expand...
Better not look at several of TO's games against Oklahoma either back in the day. Or several bowl games he coached in. Fact is most people only remember that 4 years before he retired and they think thats how it always was.
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+1 The very same is done with Suh. People only seem to base his entire 4 years on the Texas and Arizona games when he was a senior. Frazier will always be remembered for his game against Florida.

 
Joe_5700 said:
da skers said:
Joe_5700 said:
NU5XChamps said:
I don't think any of this talk would be happening if we didn't keep getting blown out on national television. There were tough times and bad losses under TO but we were never embarrassed. This falls squarely on the shoulders of BO!!

I have been a big BO supporter but I am not sure that he can take us back to relevance, and that is the problem......
Click to expand...
Did you not watch the 1996 Arizona State game where we got SHUT OUT?
Click to expand...
Better not look at several of TO's games against Oklahoma either back in the day. Or several bowl games he coached in. Fact is most people only remember that 4 years before he retired and they think thats how it always was.
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+1 The very same is done with Suh. People only seem to base his entire 4 years on the Texas and Arizona games when he was a senior. Frazier will always be remembered for his game against Florida.
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The Texas and Missouri games, maybe. But Arizona? Didn't he have like 2 tackles in that game?

 
I could have sworn the consensus in here was that a loss to Northwestern in Lincoln would be the nail in Pelini's coffin. Either immediately or by season's end.

 
caveman99 said:
NU5XChamps said:
I don't think any of this talk would be happening if we didn't keep getting blown out on national television. There were tough times and bad losses under TO but we were never embarrassed. This falls squarely on the shoulders of BO!!

I have been a big BO supporter but I am not sure that he can take us back to relevance, and that is the problem......
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I distinctly remember many a blow out under TO. I remember being up by 20 at half on Washington in Lincoln in 1990 or 1991, and getting the doors blown off in the 2nd half. That game was so similar to this year's game against UCLA it is scary. I also remember losing to Miami 31-0 in the Orange Bowl about the same time. Others have mentioned the 19-0 loss at ASU in 1996 coming off of a MNC. Or maybe the year we got blown out by OU in the Orange Bowl after beating them at home earlier that season. TO had many a blow out, don't kid yourself.
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It was a 21-9 lead against the Huskies in 1991 with 5:32 left in the 3rd Quarter. (14-6 at the half) Washington then scored 28 in a row to win 36-21. http://www.huskermax.com/games/1991/03washington.html

It was 22-0 vs Miami in the 1992 Orange Bowl, which was the worst loss in TO's career. He also lost to Miami 23-3 in 1989, which is up for Tom's worse loss too.

The 19-0 loss was more on Frost and his personal issues, I will just leave it at that. Just another reason why I don't want him here.

 
knapplc said:
I got the impression that he began that article before the Michigan game, with the intent of writing a hot-seat piece, but when we won the game he had to change tack and rewrite it a bit. There's still that tinge of "Husker Fans are sharpening their pitchforks" to the whole thing, as if a loss or two more and he's gone. Which is absurd.

The best thing about that article is Andy's mention of Phat Jack's, which is not overwhelmed with business by Lincolnites like it should be, but is a very well-known spot amongst the national media. His mention of Burnt Ends is a stab in the back though - that's something that should have stayed a secret for those in the know. If the rank-and-file Lincoln diners all get wise to Burnt Ends there won't be enough for those of us who truly deserve them.
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As a Phat Jack's regular, I have to agree with you about the Burnt Ends. Let's keep that to ourselves, shall we?

 
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