Did Nebraska learn its lesson?

[knapplc]

On the cusp of the Iowa game, with silence aplenty coming from the AD's office, questions linger about the fate of this coaching staff.

We've been down this road before. Nearly identically.

Did NU learn from Solich's in-house battles in '03?
Long story short, Pederson fired Solich the day after Nebraska's regular season-ending triumph Nov. 29 at Colorado -- 10 years ago today. The Huskers were 9-3 overall and 5-3 in the Big 12, tied for second in the North Division.

Similarities to current Nebraska coach Bo Pelini's situation entering the game against Iowa are obvious. Sixth-year head coach. His team 8-3. Speculation swirling as the Huskers prepare for a border rival. Questionable support from his bosses.

Bussmann watches from afar hoping Perlman doesn't repeat history. The former Solich staffer feels it was crystal-clear Perlman didn't support Solich. In late 2002 -- after Nebraska had finished 7-7 (3-5 Big 12) -- Perlman ignored the formal search process and hired Pederson with the understanding Pederson may have to fire Solich.

 

[True2tRA]

So......don't let Bo go because we all know what happens when you fire a coach. You get Bill Callahan.

Okay, got it Sipple. Living in Nebraska I'm not surprised a bit that our sports writers push the "fear of change" angle. This state is run that way politically and socially. Why not use it in sports journalism. It clearly works.

 

[AFhusker]

On the cusp of the Iowa game, with silence aplenty coming from the AD's office, questions linger about the fate of this coaching staff.

We've been down this road before. Nearly identically.

Did NU learn from Solich's in-house battles in '03?
Long story short, Pederson fired Solich the day after Nebraska's regular season-ending triumph Nov. 29 at Colorado -- 10 years ago today. The Huskers were 9-3 overall and 5-3 in the Big 12, tied for second in the North Division.

Similarities to current Nebraska coach Bo Pelini's situation entering the game against Iowa are obvious. Sixth-year head coach. His team 8-3. Speculation swirling as the Huskers prepare for a border rival. Questionable support from his bosses.

Bussmann watches from afar hoping Perlman doesn't repeat history. The former Solich staffer feels it was crystal-clear Perlman didn't support Solich. In late 2002 -- after Nebraska had finished 7-7 (3-5 Big 12) -- Perlman ignored the formal search process and hired Pederson with the understanding Pederson may have to fire Solich.

What was left out is that Perlman hired Pederson based off of Tom's recomendation. People in the AD knew that Frank was never a good fit as a HC, he was not ready and will never be ready enough to be a HC at a major program. But Tom forced him into the job and even threatened to "unretire" if Byrne didn't hire Frank. So it is no suprise that Frank wasn't supported by the AD as he was never thier choice to be Tom's replacement in the first place. Then after Frank killed just about every streak that Bob/Tom started, it isn't a suprised that they got rid of him.

 

[knapplc]

So......don't let Bo go because we all know what happens when you fire a coach. You get Bill Callahan.

The article said nothing about not letting Bo - or Frank - go. It talked about the method used.

It's obvious you want Pelini gone. But actually read the stuff you're commenting on before you comment. It'll make for better conversation.

 

[NU5XChamps]

I thought it was a good article. The things that went on behind the scenes interesting. Are we going down the same path, maybe, but ultimately it comes down to the AD's belief in the coach and his staff.... We can only sit on the sidelines and hope......

 

[True2tRA]

So......don't let Bo go because we all know what happens when you fire a coach. You get Bill Callahan.

The article said nothing about not letting Bo - or Frank - go. It talked about the method used.

It's obvious you want Pelini gone. But actually read the stuff you're commenting on before you comment. It'll make for better conversation.

No knapp. Maybe its you missing the point of the article or my point in general. I read the article last night or early this morning for your info.

Frank clearly did not have the support of Steve Pederson or Perlman. As wrong as it was, Frank was let go.

So what is this mistake Sipple is referring to Knapp? It was a mistake to let Frank go? Or it was a mistake not to support him while he was in his role as HC?

Let me ask you this. If you as a Athletic Director don't believe in the current football coach, why would you vocally and publicly show him support? Why would you come out and lie to people?

If Shawn Eichorst does support Bo, what good would it have done him to come out weeks ago and state that? If this team melts down afterward does he change his mind? Wouldn't that then make him look like an a$$?

Put the story together Knapp. What mistake should we not make again? You tell me. The way I took it was Sipple saying the Athletic director and Perlman should not make the mistake of letting this coach go. Support this coach AD and Perlman! What else are you get hearing from it that I am not? If they don't support Bo, they don't support him, why should they publicly state the opposite if this is actually the case.

 

[True2tRA]

BTW, I do lean more toward Bo-leaving. I think this program deserves better. Still, I could see giving him one more year as well. It's hard for me to debate with Ron Brown when he says he thinks they are close.

 

[Ric Flair]

So......don't let Bo go because we all know what happens when you fire a coach. You get Bill Callahan.

The article said nothing about not letting Bo - or Frank - go. It talked about the method used.

It's obvious you want Pelini gone. But actually read the stuff you're commenting on before you comment. It'll make for better conversation.

No knapp. Maybe its you missing the point of the article or my point in general. I read the article last night or early this morning for your info.

Frank clearly did not have the support of Steve Pederson or Perlman. As wrong as it was, Frank was let go.

So what is this mistake Sipple is referring to Knapp? It was a mistake to let Frank go? Or it was a mistake not to support him while he was in his role as HC?

Let me ask you this. If you as a Athletic Director don't believe in the current football coach, why would you vocally and publicly show him support? Why would you come out and lie to people?

If Shawn Eichorst does support Bo, what good would it have done him to come out weeks ago and state that? If this team melts down afterward does he change his mind? Wouldn't that then make him look like an a$$?

Put the story together Knapp. What mistake should we not make again? You tell me. The way I took it was Sipple saying the Athletic director and Perlman should not make the mistake of letting this coach go. Support this coach AD and Perlman! What else are you get hearing from it that I am not? If they don't support Bo, they don't support him, why should they publicly state the opposite if this is actually the case.

I agree. Sipple isn't capable of viewing this objectively or of engaging in actual journalism. He's a Pelini fanboy who's actively campaigning for his buddy to keep his job.

 

[TheSker]

So......don't let Bo go because we all know what happens when you fire a coach. You get Bill Callahan.

The article said nothing about not letting Bo - or Frank - go. It talked about the method used.

It's obvious you want Pelini gone. But actually read the stuff you're commenting on before you comment. It'll make for better conversation.

No knapp. Maybe its you missing the point of the article or my point in general. I read the article last night or early this morning for your info.

Frank clearly did not have the support of Steve Pederson or Perlman. As wrong as it was, Frank was let go.

So what is this mistake Sipple is referring to Knapp? It was a mistake to let Frank go? Or it was a mistake not to support him while he was in his role as HC?

Let me ask you this. If you as a Athletic Director don't believe in the current football coach, why would you vocally and publicly show him support? Why would you come out and lie to people?

If Shawn Eichorst does support Bo, what good would it have done him to come out weeks ago and state that? If this team melts down afterward does he change his mind? Wouldn't that then make him look like an a$$?

Put the story together Knapp. What mistake should we not make again? You tell me. The way I took it was Sipple saying the Athletic director and Perlman should not make the mistake of letting this coach go. Support this coach AD and Perlman! What else are you get hearing from it that I am not? If they don't support Bo, they don't support him, why should they publicly state the opposite if this is actually the case.

I agree. Sipple isn't capable of viewing this objectively or of engaging in actual journalism. He's a Pelini fanboy who's actively campaigning for his buddy to keep his job.

Sipple isn't alone in what he wrote.

 

[ladyhawke]

I took it as this: "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it,". I think a lot of people are afraid to change because they don't want to have to go through what we did when Frank was fired. There is no guarantee that changing staff will elevate this program. None. Now this is just my opinion but if the AD looks at Bo's ENTIRE body of work-not just wins and losses then I really don't believe he will be fired. I could be wrong. Frank did what they asked him to so and he still got fired so we shall see. I agree with TheSkr. Stipple isn't the only one who thinks that Bo will be retained.

 

[True2tRA]

I think Bo will be retained as well. I also think it was a mistake to fire Solich, especially as you said ladyhawke, even after he made some necessary changes. We hopefully find out today how much support Bo has in this Athletic Department and how long they are willing to extend that support.

 

[Landlord]

So what is this mistake Sipple is referring to Knapp? It was a mistake to let Frank go? Or it was a mistake not to support him while he was in his role as HC?

It was a mistake that the deck was stacked against Solich no matter what he did. He was on cracking ice and forced to make some changes, so he did. He made big ones. He did what was asked, and the team got better, but in the end it didn't make any difference. The decision had already been made.

 

[Foppa]

On the cusp of the Iowa game, with silence aplenty coming from the AD's office, questions linger about the fate of this coaching staff.

We've been down this road before. Nearly identically.

Did NU learn from Solich's in-house battles in '03?
Long story short, Pederson fired Solich the day after Nebraska's regular season-ending triumph Nov. 29 at Colorado -- 10 years ago today. The Huskers were 9-3 overall and 5-3 in the Big 12, tied for second in the North Division.

Similarities to current Nebraska coach Bo Pelini's situation entering the game against Iowa are obvious. Sixth-year head coach. His team 8-3. Speculation swirling as the Huskers prepare for a border rival. Questionable support from his bosses.

Bussmann watches from afar hoping Perlman doesn't repeat history. The former Solich staffer feels it was crystal-clear Perlman didn't support Solich. In late 2002 -- after Nebraska had finished 7-7 (3-5 Big 12) -- Perlman ignored the formal search process and hired Pederson with the understanding Pederson may have to fire Solich.

What was left out is that Perlman hired Pederson based off of Tom's recomendation. People in the AD knew that Frank was never a good fit as a HC, he was not ready and will never be ready enough to be a HC at a major program. But Tom forced him into the job and even threatened to "unretire" if Byrne didn't hire Frank. So it is no suprise that Frank wasn't supported by the AD as he was never thier choice to be Tom's replacement in the first place. Then after Frank killed just about every streak that Bob/Tom started, it isn't a suprised that they got rid of him.

I'm pretty sure Callahan did most of that, not Frank.

 

[AFhusker]

So what is this mistake Sipple is referring to Knapp? It was a mistake to let Frank go? Or it was a mistake not to support him while he was in his role as HC?

It was a mistake that the deck was stacked against Solich no matter what he did. He was on cracking ice and forced to make some changes, so he did. He made big ones. He did what was asked, and the team got better, but in the end it didn't make any difference. The decision had already been made.

The offensive numbers were worse in 2003 than they were in 2002. But we had Barney as an OC, so that is to be expected. We just played an easy schedule, probably the easiest in the last 20 or so years, well until this year that is. The big disagreement was firing Bohl as he had a lot of off the field issues that hurt the school in different ways and I don't want to elaborate on that in a public forum. Which is also why he will never coach here again, he has too much baggage here and is better off staying where he is at.

 

[AFhusker]

On the cusp of the Iowa game, with silence aplenty coming from the AD's office, questions linger about the fate of this coaching staff.

We've been down this road before. Nearly identically.

Did NU learn from Solich's in-house battles in '03?
Long story short, Pederson fired Solich the day after Nebraska's regular season-ending triumph Nov. 29 at Colorado -- 10 years ago today. The Huskers were 9-3 overall and 5-3 in the Big 12, tied for second in the North Division.

Similarities to current Nebraska coach Bo Pelini's situation entering the game against Iowa are obvious. Sixth-year head coach. His team 8-3. Speculation swirling as the Huskers prepare for a border rival. Questionable support from his bosses.

Bussmann watches from afar hoping Perlman doesn't repeat history. The former Solich staffer feels it was crystal-clear Perlman didn't support Solich. In late 2002 -- after Nebraska had finished 7-7 (3-5 Big 12) -- Perlman ignored the formal search process and hired Pederson with the understanding Pederson may have to fire Solich.

What was left out is that Perlman hired Pederson based off of Tom's recomendation. People in the AD knew that Frank was never a good fit as a HC, he was not ready and will never be ready enough to be a HC at a major program. But Tom forced him into the job and even threatened to "unretire" if Byrne didn't hire Frank. So it is no suprise that Frank wasn't supported by the AD as he was never thier choice to be Tom's replacement in the first place. Then after Frank killed just about every streak that Bob/Tom started, it isn't a suprised that they got rid of him.

I'm pretty sure Callahan did most of that, not Frank.

Bill had Kansas and the bowl streak.

Frank had KSU (2-4 vs them and never won in mancrappin), ISU, Mizzou, oSu and the bowl streak would have been in 2002 if we didn't play Nichols State. And 2004 was really on Frank as he left us with little or no talent.