NFL Combine 2014.

ObamaRocks91 said:
PaulCrewe said:
In the Deed the Glory said:
4.4 for Q!!
He should be moved off the free agent list now I would guess. That should rocket him up, as long as he doesn't drop a bunch of passes.
Click to expand...
For perspective the B1G best wr "prospect" according to many, Allen Robinson, ran a 4.61.
Click to expand...
I just want to get this straight:

When I bring up a 40 time for a recruit and explain how it concerns me because it's far slower than the average, you and others exclaim "The 40. Most overhyped worthless thing there is." -Paul Crewe. "Coaches and scouts only care about production, a 40 time means absolutely nothing." BUT, when that 40 time is in favor of a Nebraska player, it's the greatest thing ever!!! "He is totally going to get drafted because of his 40 time!! He draft stock is rising!!! Production means nothing, it's all about that speed!"

Just makes me laugh. Now everyone (Mavric, PC, RRJRW), go ahead and tell me how I'm wrong, which will likely require a 100% complete opposite argument you have previously made to tell me I was wrong in another dispute. Just make sure you keep good notes to ensure you know which side of the argument you are on this time around.
Click to expand...
Hey, anything you say on a football message board will catch disagreement from someone. No need to take it personally. Just have fun with it! (Feel free to disagree with this statement I just made if it makes you feel better.
default_laugh.png
)

 
ObamaRocks91 said:
PaulCrewe said:
In the Deed the Glory said:
4.4 for Q!!
He should be moved off the free agent list now I would guess. That should rocket him up, as long as he doesn't drop a bunch of passes.
Click to expand...
For perspective the B1G best wr "prospect" according to many, Allen Robinson, ran a 4.61.
Click to expand...
I just want to get this straight:

When I bring up a 40 time for a recruit and explain how it concerns me because it's far slower than the average, you and others exclaim "The 40. Most overhyped worthless thing there is." -Paul Crewe. "Coaches and scouts only care about production, a 40 time means absolutely nothing." BUT, when that 40 time is in favor of a Nebraska player, it's the greatest thing ever!!! "He is totally going to get drafted because of his 40 time!! He draft stock is rising!!! Production means nothing, it's all about that speed!"

Just makes me laugh. Now everyone (Mavric, PC, RRJRW), go ahead and tell me how I'm wrong, which will likely require a 100% complete opposite argument you have previously made to tell me I was wrong in another dispute. Just make sure you keep good notes to ensure you know which side of the argument you are on this time around.
Click to expand...
Wait what?
 
I think one of the funniest anecdotal arguments against 40 times is the Oakland Raider's draft strategy over the last decade or so. The Raiders try to take guys with good "measurables" especially 40 times. They remain one of, if not the, worst teams in the NFL. Certainly nothing definitive, but it's amusing.

I'm happy for QE that he ran a fast time, and it will probably help his draft stock. I just don't think it should matter at all.

 
The importance of 40 times varies by position. From somewhat relevant, to not important at all. For CBs and WRs 40 times are somewhat relevant. Most other positions, not so much. IMO.

 
Well, they obviously do it for a reason. Whatever that reason may be. Even if it's just become a show of speed for the athletes. It may not count for much as far as his career goes, but it can count for him proving his athletic ability , and those are two completely different things. The best athletes don't always have the greatest careers you guys. So if it helps Quincy make a few more bucks at the next level, good for him. Plus, being that fast has to be pretty cool anyways.

 
What bodes well for Quincy is Sherman from Seattle. A transition in the league to guys like Sherman will translate to trying to find bigger bodied receivers (see da Bears) who can play against this new generation of DB's (see the love SJB is getting for his size). Quincy has shown as a big guy he has some straight line speed and can stretch the D. At NU's pro day he MUST show he can catch the routine NFL passes.

Watching chicago last year they talked about the how a NFL receiver has to make the routine catches and have the ability to make the a circus catch or 2 per game. Does Quincy have this ability? Can he show this to the scouts? If so, he has a good chance, IMO, to go in the first day. If he misses the "routine" catches..................

 
Last edited by a moderator:
NUance said:
The importance of 40 times varies by position. From somewhat relevant, to not important at all. For CBs and WRs 40 times are somewhat relevant. Most other positions, not so much. IMO.
Click to expand...
Agreed. For most of the other positions it's more about the 10 yard split.

 
Here's Clowney's 40 with Colin Kaepernick and Cam Newton superimposed.

w0FogKs.jpg


I don't care that he's coming in as a rookie. That's gotta terrify a lot of QBs.

 
lo country said:
What bodes well for Quincy is Sherman from Seattle. A transition in the league to guys like Sherman will translate to trying to find bigger bodied receivers (see da Bears) who can play against this new generation of DB's (see the love SJB is getting for his size). Quincy has shown as a big guy he has some straight line speed and can stretch the D. At NU's pro day he MUST show he can catch the routine NFL passes.

Watching chicago last year they talked about the how a NFL receiver has to make the routine catches and have the ability to make the a circus catch or 2 per game. Does Quincy have this ability? Can he show this to the scouts? If so, he has a good chance, IMO, to go in the first day. If he misses the "routine" catches..................
Click to expand...
Actually, wouldn't the answer for an offense to these big bodies corners be small, speedy, acceleration and change of direction type receivers? If they can't stay with them then they can't guard them. The reason teams are getting these huge corners is so they can match up with the megatons of the NFL.

 
gbr93 said:
lo country said:
What bodes well for Quincy is Sherman from Seattle. A transition in the league to guys like Sherman will translate to trying to find bigger bodied receivers (see da Bears) who can play against this new generation of DB's (see the love SJB is getting for his size). Quincy has shown as a big guy he has some straight line speed and can stretch the D. At NU's pro day he MUST show he can catch the routine NFL passes.

Watching chicago last year they talked about the how a NFL receiver has to make the routine catches and have the ability to make the a circus catch or 2 per game. Does Quincy have this ability? Can he show this to the scouts? If so, he has a good chance, IMO, to go in the first day. If he misses the "routine" catches..................
Click to expand...
Actually, wouldn't the answer for an offense to these big bodies corners be small, speedy, acceleration and change of direction type receivers? If they can't stay with them then they can't guard them. The reason teams are getting these huge corners is so they can match up with the megatons of the NFL.
Click to expand...
IMO no. The bigger corners are playing press and dominating the smaller wr's they face. Teams need to combat this and are looking for bigger receivers. Look at Megatron, Alshon, Davis etc. The TE's are now faster and more agile. One of the great things guys like about Lavonte is his ability to run with these TE's and support the run as well. Just my .02.

SJB runs a sub 4.5 and his stock soars IMO for this reason. Guys want to clone Sherman.

 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top