Being a Husker skeptic in August is like being a drunk Santa swearing at crying kids in the mall on Christmas Eve, Carl. Now, cherry or fruit punch kool aid?
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carlfense
Heisman Trophy Winner
It'd be awfully nice but a lot of turnovers seems to be the hallmark of Pelini's teams.
I have no idea what they're trying to do with punt returns. No idea at all.
carlfense
Heisman Trophy Winner
Junior
Banned
Some things take time... It is not ideal, but 9 wins a year isnt awful.. that wakeup call =11 wins.. ill take it.Year 7 wakeup call?
The 2015 class doesn't look much different than Bo's previous classes. What am I missing?
Are you blind? This is the first time the class has been this big/this deep/ this fast.... top 20 class right now i believe...
#28 according to Rivals and #33 according to 24/7.
2014 NU finished #32
2013 #17
2012 #25
2011 #15
2010 #22
2009 #28
(All Rivals)
So... I don't know, but it doesn't seem like our recruiting is markedly better. It might turn out to be in the long run, but to say it is now is just hopefulness from fans.
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carlfense
Heisman Trophy Winner
That's about what I expected but I don't follow recruiting as closely as I used to. I think that it's pretty easy to miss the forest for the trees with recruiting classes.
yes but our average star ranking is higher than 16 teams ranked above us and only tied or lower than 1 team below us w/ at least 11 commits. So we don't have the volume, but we have a good class.Some things take time... It is not ideal, but 9 wins a year isnt awful.. that wakeup call =11 wins.. ill take it.Year 7 wakeup call?
The 2015 class doesn't look much different than Bo's previous classes. What am I missing?
Are you blind? This is the first time the class has been this big/this deep/ this fast.... top 20 class right now i believe...
#28 according to Rivals and #33 according to 24/7.
2014 NU finished #32
2013 #17
2012 #25
2011 #15
2010 #22
2009 #28
(All Rivals)
So... I don't know, but it doesn't seem like our recruiting is markedly better. It might turn out to be in the long run, but to say it is now is just hopefulness from fans.
Junior
Banned
The average star rating is always a bit of a red herring, in my book. If we have 4 guys who are 4* and 3 guys who are 3* (3.6 average star ranking), and Wisconsin has 5 guys who are 4* and 4 guys who are 3* and one 2*, their average star ranking is lower (3.4), but would you say they have a worse class overall??
Also, why did you qualify it "w/ at least 11 commits"?
I do agree...but then how do you look at a class? Just because a team has more commits than we do doesn't mean they have a better class either, just more "points"...so I guess everyone can just make up there own opinion of what qualifies as a good class instead of looking at rankings? Since you referenced our class ranking to past years, I was just pulling data from the rankings profiles to show that it's always not just where we fall on the scale, but you also proved my point further with your comment above (which I agree with)...really depends on how you want to look at things I guess.
I qualified it w/ 11 commits, because if you only had one commit and he was a 5*, that doesn't really give you much data on how the class is in comparison to teams w/ at least a set number, in this case I picked 11 commits.
Junior
Banned
I think you have to use a combination of both if you are concerned about any given year. But if you look from year to year, you might have one year that you are particularly low because of a small class or higher because of a large one, but in the end when the classes are annually at around the #25 range that's just what you are as a recruiter. Unless Pelini makes a sudden jump to the top 10, I would say there is pretty much no change. That's not to say Pelini is doing a bad job of recruiting, or that the team cannot be successful as it has been built... I'm just saying that anyone trying to claim some great increase in recruiting prowess at this point is engaging in a little bit of wishful thinking.
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carlfense
Heisman Trophy Winner
But you're eliminating 3 teams with 8-10 commits . . . and not a single school with on 5*.
The argument isn't particularly convincing if you're cherry picking that much.
carlfense
Heisman Trophy Winner
kchusker_chris
All-American
The average star crap gets used every year we have smaller classes, and brushed aside when we have larger classes. Didn't hear about it at all last year did you? Go back through the 2012 threads and that's all anyone talks about. We can excuse the classes Pelini puts together any way we want, but there's so many hypocritical things that goes with the "average star" thing it's ridiculous. Recruiting is a numbers game. If someone doesn't agree w/ that, then they'd better never mention the concept of over signing on this board. More numbers, more potential for starters, better class. A smaller class is not a good thing for Nebraska, no matter how you slice it. We aren't signing all 5* and 4* guys. We need numbers. So unless our average stars are pushing 4.5, this is going to be a lower ranked class no matter how we try and fluff it up.
I'm not trying to make and argument...??? And I wasn't cherry picking...add the 3 teams w/ 8-10 commits if you want, doesn't really matter to me...I was just using 11 because that is the number that NU has at this time. Anyone can take the info and break it apart any way you want too. You could make is sway in a lot of different directions based on how you want to look at it, I was just giving one perspective. He asked how I qualified it and I told him...wasn't much more to it than that. Personally I like the last couple classes for a multitude of reasons...this one included, but don't worry, I won't try to "convince" you of it, because I would hate to be called a cherry picker or the likes and it's probably going to keep me up at nights worrying about if I "convinced" you or not...smh