Armstrong Leading the QB Race
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These are the numbers of some of Nebraska's great QB career completion %. One was a Hypesman, one was robber of his and 2 won the MNC. Not to shabby.
I know our O then was completely different than now, but no doubt in those years we were a run first O, like now and teams tried to stop the run. To no avail.
The percentage completion rate only tells a part of the story. If TA continues to throw around 50-55% and truly limits the INT's, we are in for a very good season. Low INT's means he is throwing the ball away or making it where only the receiver can get it. I'll take that all day long.
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These are the numbers of some of Nebraska's great QB career completion %. One was a Hypesman, one was robber of his and 2 won the MNC. Not to shabby.
I know our O then was completely different than now, but no doubt in those years we were a run first O, like now and teams tried to stop the run. To no avail.
The percentage completion rate only tells a part of the story. If TA continues to throw around 50-55% and truly limits the INT's, we are in for a very good season. Low INT's means he is throwing the ball away or making it where only the receiver can get it. I'll take that all day long.
Landlord
Banned
You know what's actually a lot more beneficial than comparing productivity and completion percentages to previous Nebraska quarterbacks in different eras of college football and different offensive systems?
Comparing productivity and completion percentages to other quarterbacks that play college football in 2014.
Comparing productivity and completion percentages to other quarterbacks that play college football in 2014.
I won't answer with some smart a$$ comment. Don't want a vacation now the season has started.
Reason for comparison. Folks are stuck on some "mythical" percentage that means success. The guys listed above had success at an incredible level, but according to the "experts" on the board, percentages alone would be looked at as failures.
For a comparison, would you feel better comparing an Oregon to Bama. Two current guys in completely different systems. Clemson to Navy? Again same season, but 2 different guys. Nick Marshall? 59% career? Jameis Winston 66%. Devin Gardner 60%. Braxton Miller 59% Bo Wallace with his 64% and 44 TD's to 30 INT's?
So how would you rate TA? Compare him to someone else this week whose team just put up almost 800 yards of offense. Who use our same O.
I stand by my comments that percentage completion rate only tells part of the story.
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beanman
Banned
In the same system of course, right? I mean otherwise your point is meaningless.
Mierin
Assistant Coach
There's not nearly enough data for that. 2013 would be fine.
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Landlord
Banned
Just to provide an example, not to actually try and prove a point because I don't have one, Oregon, Auburn, A&M, and Arizona are all teams that I think could be at least moderately or relevantly comparable as far as offensive style and/or offensive production in week 1.
Oregon - 673 total yards
Marcus Mariota - 14/20 (70%) - 267 yards - 13.35 YPA - 3 TD - 0 INT ----- 6 rushes - 43 yards - 1 TD - Raw QB rating of 97.1, adjusted 93.2
Auburn - 595 total yards
Nick Marshall didn't really play much due to his marijuana suspension but check his nubmers from last year I guess?
Texas A&M - 680 total yards
Kevin Hill - 44/60 (73%) - 511 yards - 3 TD - 0 INT ----- 7 rushes - 5 yards - Raw QB rating of 91.5, adjusted 94.8
Arizona - 787 total yards
Anu Solomon - 25/44 (57%) - 425 yards - 4 TD - 0 INT ------ 8 rushes - 50 yards - Raw QB rating of 87.3, adjusted 82.0
Tommy Armstrong Jr - 15/29 (51%) - 271 yards - 2 TD - 0 INT ----- 7 rushes - 62 yards - Raw QB rating of 92.8, adjusted 91.7
Interesting that the QBR numbers are so similar despite the rest of Tommy's stats not measuring up besides a bit more rushing yards - wonder how that's calculated.
whateveritis1224
All-Conference
QBR is kind of weighted towards how a QB reacts to certain situations and down and distances. So Armstrong got major points for converting those on the first couple of drives.
walksalone
Heisman Trophy Winner
Not for nothing, I can live with TA completing 52% of his passes when AA has over 200 yards rushing....
We're not Washington St, where were gonna throw the ball 40 or 50 times. If that and turnovers, which we had none last weekend, are your major concern, I think somebodies would a bit too tight...
We're not Washington St, where were gonna throw the ball 40 or 50 times. If that and turnovers, which we had none last weekend, are your major concern, I think somebodies would a bit too tight...
Mierin
Assistant Coach
That's what I was most impressed with. In years past when we had a penalty it usually meant the drive was over (no matter how bad the opponent) and we were going to be punting.
admo
Heisman Trophy Winner
Wouldn't 3-5 WR screens per game change that %? Seemed to help beef it up a lot the last 2 seasons.
Armstrong will throw it over the middle if it is called for it. I like seeing that.
WhatDoIKnow
Special Teams Player
Armstrong threw the ball very well early. The throw to Bell that he one-handed was gorgeous. Maybe he relaxed a little too much later and he's one of those guys that needs a little pressure to perform the best. Still very early.
He also ran with authority a couple of times.
He also ran with authority a couple of times.
walksalone
Heisman Trophy Winner
I guess you're missing my point. We ran for almost 500 yards, we don't need to throw it that much that we need to worry about the QB's completion percentage...
admo
Heisman Trophy Winner
It would appear that way because that is my fault. No beef with you. Wiggling through 14 pages of 52% this and that, I just happened to grab your comment. I agree the % is not a deal breaker when we run the ball that well and no turnovers. And if we don't, then we just need to make sure we have success converting our third downs.
walksalone
Heisman Trophy Winner
No worries... if they ran for 400 yards and his completion percentage was 45%, I probably still wouldn't care if they were winning...