shyndy
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yeah LSU is not a top 25 team this year. ATM idk, maybe top 25 but definitely not top 15
Ok so... what do Starkville and Oxford have that Lincoln doesn't?
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Landlord
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The state of Mississippi has 50%+ more people than the state of Nebraska.
The state of Mississippi has a lot more talented football players than the state of Nebraska.
The state of Mississippi is also closer to other states with a lot more talented football players than the state of Nebraska.
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The state of Mississippi has a lot more talented football players than the state of Nebraska.
The state of Mississippi is also closer to other states with a lot more talented football players than the state of Nebraska.
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Creighton Duke
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You missed where I said per-capita. They are actually 6th (7th if you count DC)
http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2013/9/11/4718442/college-football-state-texas-california-florida
Lived in Mississippi. Still have people there. Starkville is not near as good as Lincoln IMO.
What they have now is a coaching staff with experience. The head coach, Mullen and OC Hevesy were together at UF. IIRC they have kicked around together the past 10 yrs or so. Looking at some of their staff, they hit on some young talent and managed to bring some experience alone as well. Oh, they also believe in a QB coach.
They compete for the same kids as Bama. I am glad to see Miss St and Ole Miss getting props. Had to always hear how great Bama is.
Win and kids come. Took Mullen a few, but he is turning the program around. Took over in 2008. Steady improvement ever since. Created an identity on O and D are seeing the results now.
What they have now is a coaching staff with experience. The head coach, Mullen and OC Hevesy were together at UF. IIRC they have kicked around together the past 10 yrs or so. Looking at some of their staff, they hit on some young talent and managed to bring some experience alone as well. Oh, they also believe in a QB coach.
They compete for the same kids as Bama. I am glad to see Miss St and Ole Miss getting props. Had to always hear how great Bama is.
Win and kids come. Took Mullen a few, but he is turning the program around. Took over in 2008. Steady improvement ever since. Created an identity on O and D are seeing the results now.
If you notice the recruiting rankings, that old guy that was here before did a pretty good job of recruiting to this state. How did he manage that. Serious question.
We do not get the level of athletes it takes to win on the National level. We really haven't since Tom left. Why? Winning in honesty was not that much greater other than at the end of Tom's run, and it really has not been good other than on occasion since.
As to LSU not being that good, they have the same excuse we use, but only much larger. In the last 5 years they have lost 27 juniors to the NFL. That is a whole recruiting class of NFL level players. The talent level in the SEC is leaps and bounds above what we have or can get. It is not just the coaching.
We do not get the level of athletes it takes to win on the National level. We really haven't since Tom left. Why? Winning in honesty was not that much greater other than at the end of Tom's run, and it really has not been good other than on occasion since.
As to LSU not being that good, they have the same excuse we use, but only much larger. In the last 5 years they have lost 27 juniors to the NFL. That is a whole recruiting class of NFL level players. The talent level in the SEC is leaps and bounds above what we have or can get. It is not just the coaching.
VA Husker Fan
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And schools like Alabama, Auburn, LSU, and Tennessee, to name a few, poach the top talent out of Mississippi, and keep their own home talent. The rest of the in-state talent is left to split between Miss St, Ole Miss, and Southern Miss. Even in Mississippi they are the bastard stepchild to Ole Miss in most aspects (similar to KSU and Kansas, and yes, I know that KSU has become the better football school). If MSU was the only decent school in the area your thread ending post might have some merit. But it isn't, and it doesn't.
I've been to Starkville. There's not much at all there. That's true of some of the other SEC towns too, but at least they have some football tradition. If MSU can keep winning this year, their recruiting will certainly improve.
VA Husker Fan
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I think a lot of that had to do with how weak the surrounding state schools were for most of the time. We got a decent share of top talent out of Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, the Dakotas, and even Colorado. As Missouri, KSU, and CU improved, more of those states' talent stayed home.
Mierin
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ohiocornhusker
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SEC teams...
Tom's recruiting rankings rose and fell, but you're right that he consistently brought in elite talent from across the country (though there were many fans in the 70's and late 80's to early 90's that may have disputed that). The major differences fall under how few National programs there were that played on TV back then, the level at which TO won (I disagree that Bo can match even the pre-90's level, but almost no one in history can) and the rules that allowed us to use kids that don't qualify academically today, which TO and our support staff used brilliantly to make up for our geographical disadvantage.
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beanman
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Mississippi has a lot of plump women.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/09/04/the-states-where-americans-are-the-most-and-least-obese/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/09/04/the-states-where-americans-are-the-most-and-least-obese/
The Nebraskan Assassin
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I still think LSU will finish 9-4 and ranked in the Top 25. Could be our bowl opponent.