Have humans been cloned?

Has a human been cloned?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 10 55.6%
  • No.

    Votes: 6 33.3%
  • Maybe, but we'll never know for sure.

    Votes: 2 11.1%

  • Total voters
    18

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Dolly the sheep was born July 5, 1996. LINK If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say somewhere in the world a human was cloned not long after that. Perhaps in 1997. That'd make the kid about 17 years old by now--if it happened, that is. If there is a human clone someplace I wonder if we'll ever find out about it. Surely we will. It'd be difficult to keep something like that under wraps forever. The egos involved would be too large to prevent anyone from taking credit for such an achievement.

 
A few embryos and some stem cells have been created, but that's about it.

Cloning an entire human being is pretty worthless and that's where most of the religious nuts go crazy, but in reality nobody wants to do that. But what is useful would be creating lab-grown tissues and organs - cloning could allow us to create lab-grown bone marrow that would perfectly match a patient for a transplant, or a lab-grown kidney or liver tissue or whatever it might be. If it is cloned, it contains all of the cellular markers of the original host and would eliminate rejection and graft v host disease in transplants. And cloning stem cells paves the way for not only all of this but for anything that stem-cell therapy and stem cells in general are used for, including research.

Why hasn't a human been cloned yet? Well besides uselessness of cloning a human just for sh#ts and giggles (and the fact that funding/support for this would be nonexistent), there are a bunch of challenges that we don't face when cloning animals. First and foremost is a supply of egg cells - with sheep or cattle or whatever, we can just harvest a sh#t ton of ovaries and get egg cells. Thousands and thousands of them without too much trouble. With humans, you're talking hormone therapy and a surgical procedure by a willing donor in order to get just a few egg cells. So that's the big thing. And the unique developmental biology of each organism in its embryonic stages and the implantation procedure (also needing a willing host mother rather than just a female lab animal) poses a challenge because it means you can't just do the sheep procedure with a human egg - it wouldn't work. But I'm pretty sure we've gotten to the point where we've at least created some viable embryos, so it's a start

Unfortunately, the religion nuts start foaming at the mouth when they hear the word "clone" so they're sabotaging research that will produce literal medical miracles in the future. So it goes.

 
A few embryos and some stem cells have been created, but that's about it.

Cloning an entire human being is pretty worthless and that's where most of the religious nuts go crazy, but in reality nobody wants to do that. But what is useful would be creating lab-grown tissues and organs - cloning could allow us to create lab-grown bone marrow that would perfectly match a patient for a transplant, or a lab-grown kidney or liver tissue or whatever it might be. If it is cloned, it contains all of the cellular markers of the original host and would eliminate rejection and graft v host disease in transplants. And cloning stem cells paves the way for not only all of this but for anything that stem-cell therapy and stem cells in general are used for, including research.

Why hasn't a human been cloned yet? Well besides uselessness of cloning a human just for sh#ts and giggles (and the fact that funding/support for this would be nonexistent), there are a bunch of challenges that we don't face when cloning animals. First and foremost is a supply of egg cells - with sheep or cattle or whatever, we can just harvest a sh#t ton of ovaries and get egg cells. Thousands and thousands of them without too much trouble. With humans, you're talking hormone therapy and a surgical procedure by a willing donor in order to get just a few egg cells. So that's the big thing. And the unique developmental biology of each organism in its embryonic stages and the implantation procedure (also needing a willing host mother rather than just a female lab animal) poses a challenge because it means you can't just do the sheep procedure with a human egg - it wouldn't work. But I'm pretty sure we've gotten to the point where we've at least created some viable embryos, so it's a start

Unfortunately, the religion nuts start foaming at the mouth when they hear the word "clone" so they're sabotaging research that will produce literal medical miracles in the future. So it goes.
A couple of the obstacles you mention--donor cells, a willing host mother--these things could be overcome with a pittance of an investment. Perhaps a couple hundred thousand dollars or less. Every fertility lab in America has hundreds, perhaps thousands of donor cells on ice. A willing host mother? I'll bet I could find one on Craig's list for $50k. (Not that that's where they would actually get a donor.) I'm not sure about the unique developmental biology of humans.

As for religion nuts, why would this even enter into the equation? Do you think an organization that attempted to clone a human would ask permission? Uhhh, no.

 
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But I have a LOT of theories. LULZ

 
A few embryos and some stem cells have been created, but that's about it.

Cloning an entire human being is pretty worthless and that's where most of the religious nuts go crazy, but in reality nobody wants to do that. But what is useful would be creating lab-grown tissues and organs - cloning could allow us to create lab-grown bone marrow that would perfectly match a patient for a transplant, or a lab-grown kidney or liver tissue or whatever it might be. If it is cloned, it contains all of the cellular markers of the original host and would eliminate rejection and graft v host disease in transplants. And cloning stem cells paves the way for not only all of this but for anything that stem-cell therapy and stem cells in general are used for, including research.

Why hasn't a human been cloned yet? Well besides uselessness of cloning a human just for sh#ts and giggles (and the fact that funding/support for this would be nonexistent), there are a bunch of challenges that we don't face when cloning animals. First and foremost is a supply of egg cells - with sheep or cattle or whatever, we can just harvest a sh#t ton of ovaries and get egg cells. Thousands and thousands of them without too much trouble. With humans, you're talking hormone therapy and a surgical procedure by a willing donor in order to get just a few egg cells. So that's the big thing. And the unique developmental biology of each organism in its embryonic stages and the implantation procedure (also needing a willing host mother rather than just a female lab animal) poses a challenge because it means you can't just do the sheep procedure with a human egg - it wouldn't work. But I'm pretty sure we've gotten to the point where we've at least created some viable embryos, so it's a start

Unfortunately, the religion nuts start foaming at the mouth when they hear the word "clone" so they're sabotaging research that will produce literal medical miracles in the future. So it goes.
A couple of the obstacles you mention--donor cells, a willing host mother--these things could be overcome with a pittance of an investment. Perhaps a couple hundred thousand dollars or less. Every fertility lab in America has hundreds, perhaps thousands of donor cells on ice. A willing host mother? I'll bet I could find one on Craig's list for $50k. (Not that that's where they would actually get a donor.) I'm not sure about the unique developmental biology of humans.

As for religion nuts, why would this even enter into the equation? Do you think an organization that attempted to clone a human would ask permission? Uhhh, no.
Dude, no. Sorry but nothing you said is true.

You don't need "hundreds, perhaps thousands" ...you need hundreds OF thousands. And you can't use those cells anyways because they're donor cells given specifically under the agreement that they are to be used for in vitro fertilization and whatnot....not experiments and cloning. And it takes years and millions of dollars. You don't just show up with a pipette, a few eggs, and a petri dish.

And yes, scientists do not ask permission from churches. They do, however, get permission and funding from governments and ethics commitees and so on...whose decisions are driven by social values of the country as a whole.

 
Sounds like UK is moving in that direction...

MPs have voted in favour of the creation of babies with DNA from two women and one man, in an historic move.

The UK is now set to become the first country to introduce laws to allow the creation of babies from three people.
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-31069173
And this is just what's going on above board. I'd guess most of the pioneering work has been done in secret already.

/ adjusts tinfoil hat.

 
I'm not much for conspiracies but I do believe government is rarely proactive. Laws for or against something come in after the fact. The technology & work already completed is far ahead of the public's perception. We created the atom bomb when we barely understood fission & atomic particles (relative to today's knowledge). Compare that to where we are with our knowledge of DNA/cloning...

/ puts on tinfoil hat for the first time
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