Defensive scheme concerns

[lo country]

I really thought our Achilles heel was crossing routes and guys getting outside..... It still appears to be a weakness in the new scheme as well. The scary part, Bo's D per the article was designed to get the runners turned back inside. I guess Wisky and others missed that. The comments from Hail Varsity:

>>Adjusting from Bo Pelinis route-matching defense in the secondary to more zone coverage principles has stood out as one of the slower processes. Defensive backs were inconsistent Wednesday both with pre-snap assignments and coverage assignments mid-play, especially on crossing routes and plays in the middle of the field. Those will probably be where the biggest change happens with Nebraskas secondary play in the new defense.

>>Similarly, bouncing plays to outside leverage is proving to be a concept that will also take time for the defense to adjust to. Pelinis defense aimed to keep the big plays inside or near the hashes where they had hats to make tackles, whereas Mark Bankers defense aims to spill the ball toward the sideline and (presumably) unblocked players.

Man, I hope we get that stuff fixed!

 

[Hunter94]

i am sorry, but Banker does not impress me........maybe he will.

 

[lo country]

i am sorry, but Banker does not impress me........maybe he will.

Agreed. I am hoping that having like 3 other guys with DC experience will make a difference.

 

[True2tRA]

Guys, they've only practiced what? Ten times?

They haven't played a game yet.

Please let's not do this. Holy hell.

 

[Hunter94]

Guys, they've only practiced what? Ten times?

They haven't played a game yet.

Please let's not do this. Holy hell.

i am not knocking the kids, it's when i hear Banker talk, i am not sold he knows what he's doing........hope i am wrong.

 

[True2tRA]

Guys, they've only practiced what? Ten times?

They haven't played a game yet.

Please let's not do this. Holy hell.

i am not knocking the kids, it's when i hear Banker talk, i am not sold he knows what he's doing........hope i am wrong.

I hope so too. I at least want to watch and find out.

I guess I'm excited to see some attacking defense again but I already know the risks involved and I'm bracing for it. This is a first year staff bring an entirely new scheme, an aggressive one that will be vulnerable to the big play at times, and I can just hear it now......

I know the overreaction will happen, I just hope people give this staff the same patience they gave the prior. It's disheartening when conversations like this are creeping up ten practices into this staffs first spring here.

 

[Scratchtown]

Any defensive scheme will struggle some against the crossing routes.

Unless you run tons of small zone underneath a 2 deep safeties look. However, then you would be susceptible to wheel routes, flag routes, basically anything deep and to the sideline.

it's a chess game, most of the time you just gotta have the right call. Sometimes you get beat.

In a zone scheme you will at least have the secondary and linebackers see the ball be delivered to the dragging receiver, and can come up as the ball is in the air.

The man concept will screw you against the drag because everyone is playing receivers, allowing yards after catch on the drags, if that receiver out runs the linebacker. Which he will.

 

[QMany]

Guys, they've only practiced what? Ten times?

They haven't played a game yet.

Please let's not do this. Holy hell.

It goes both ways, True.

I'm not saying I agree with the OP, but it is too early to put this staff on a pedestal or bury them.

 

[ADS]

Guys, they've only practiced what? Ten times?

They haven't played a game yet.

Please let's not do this. Holy hell.

i am not knocking the kids, it's when i hear Banker talk, i am not sold he knows what he's doing........hope i am wrong.

I'm curious about Banker has said for you to think he's got no idea what he's doing?

 

[Scratchtown]

Guys, they've only practiced what? Ten times?

They haven't played a game yet.

Please let's not do this. Holy hell.

i am not knocking the kids, it's when i hear Banker talk, i am not sold he knows what he's doing........hope i am wrong.

Go freaking put your name in the hat then.

for the record, you don't hope you're wrong. You aren't qualified to say he knows what he's doing because he knows a heck of alot more than you (or I) do. STFU, good lord.

 

[True2tRA]

Guys, they've only practiced what? Ten times?

They haven't played a game yet.

Please let's not do this. Holy hell.

It goes both ways, True.
I'm not saying I agree with the OP, but it is too early to put this staff on a pedestal or bury them.

If you've gotten the impression I don't understand that, I'd like to know why?
Aside from saying I love the experience these coaches bring to the program and the positivity they have infected some of us with, I've literally placed no expectations of success or failure. I just like what they're doing and even more so, I hated what the last staff did so that makes it easier to like these guys as well.

Now if you were just making the point, not really based off anything I've said, then you're right, I agree. It really does come down to what happens on Saturdays this fall.

 

[True2tRA]

Guys, they've only practiced what? Ten times?

They haven't played a game yet.

Please let's not do this. Holy hell.

i am not knocking the kids, it's when i hear Banker talk, i am not sold he knows what he's doing........hope i am wrong.

I'm curious about Banker has said for you to think he's got no idea what he's doing?

I'd be interested to know as well. It's really early to be doing this. Can't we start bitching in the first quarter of the BYU game as is the norm?

 

[BigRedBuster]

I'm sorry but if Bo's defense was designed to turn runners back in then something was totally screwed up.

Go back and watch games.

The entire line on most plays would crash to the inside. The DEs would pinch in before they would ever even think about getting up field to turn a run back inside. By this time, many times, the DE would already be beat outside.

From there, most of the time it was left up to a single DB to make a great tackle in wide open space. If he didn't make it, the play went for major yards or a score.

There is no way in hell Bo's defense was designed to turn runners back inside.

 

[The Dude]

Isn't it supposed to be similar in scheme to what Michigan State does?

 

[strigori]

I'm sorry but if Bo's defense was designed to turn runners back in then something was totally screwed up.

Go back and watch games.

The entire line on most plays would crash to the inside. The DEs would pinch in before they would ever even think about getting up field to turn a run back inside. By this time, many times, the DE would already be beat outside.

From there, most of the time it was left up to a single DB to make a great tackle in wide open space. If he didn't make it, the play went for major yards or a score.

There is no way in hell Bo's defense was designed to turn runners back inside.

What it was designed to do is what happened in 2009 and 2010. His system required NFL level talent on all 3 levels of the defense. Lack the skill in any department and the whole house of cards falls down. And like any scheme, the opponent can make adjustments. Teams like Wiscy figured out how to make the whole thing fold, and Pelini never adjusted.