Reilly out of bounds

[VA Husker Fan]

Because the boundaries of the field have to be enforced in some way. Take an absurd example. If the rule didn't exist. In on the field as a wideour at the snap. I take of down field but decide to run into the sideline to camouflage myself so to speAK then come back in to make a play. If you were allowed to leave and return the field without consequence that could and probably would happen.

Yeah, and I'm sure that has happened that brought on the rule, but so what if the guy started in bounds and decided to go hide? They can't see him do that? Still seems unlikely to me that a coach would expect to gain from his guy hiding on the sideline. Another change would be to say the player can step out but not be completely off the field which would make more sense.

So a guy pops into his team's bench area behind the coaches and some players, and he and 4 bench guys run down the sidelines and stop at various places. Defender has lost track and doesn't know which one is the guy who started the play, and if he picks the wrong guy, the real guy comes back onto the field and is wide open. Heck, the ref would be confused too. What if another player with the same number comes back onto the field? You know we have offensive and defensive guys with the same number, right? Crazy but someone would take advantage of it one way or another if they could.

 

[olddominionhusker]

Because the boundaries of the field have to be enforced in some way. Take an absurd example. If the rule didn't exist. In on the field as a wideour at the snap. I take of down field but decide to run into the sideline to camouflage myself so to speAK then come back in to make a play. If you were allowed to leave and return the field without consequence that could and probably would happen.

Yeah, and I'm sure that has happened that brought on the rule, but so what if the guy started in bounds and decided to go hide? They can't see him do that? Still seems unlikely to me that a coach would expect to gain from his guy hiding on the sideline. Another change would be to say the player can step out but not be completely off the field which would make more sense.

So a guy pops into his team's bench area behind the coaches and some players, and he and 4 bench guys run down the sidelines and stop at various places. Defender has lost track and doesn't know which one is the guy who started the play, and if he picks the wrong guy, the real guy comes back onto the field and is wide open. Heck, the ref would be confused too. What if another player with the same number comes back onto the field? You know we have offensive and defensive guys with the same number, right? Crazy but someone would take advantage of it one way or another if they could.

Just imagine what the Patriots could devise with that rule

 

[knapplc]

Contact starts at about the 18 yard line. Reilly gets between the defender and the boundary, and as the defender continues out of bounds, he takes Reilly with him. What you can't see from this angle is the defender's arm & shoulder on Reilly, maintaining contact for a good five yards, impelling him out of bounds. This was very evident live, and several people in my section were yelling "INTERFERENCE!" before Reilly caught the pass and we all lost our minds.



NOTE - my seats are in the north end zone almost exactly in line with the hash marks on the west side of the field. We had a perfect angle and were watching these two battle as they came downfield. There was never a doubt in my mind that he was out of bounds because of the defender.

 

[Hayseed]

Because the boundaries of the field have to be enforced in some way. Take an absurd example. If the rule didn't exist. In on the field as a wideour at the snap. I take of down field but decide to run into the sideline to camouflage myself so to speAK then come back in to make a play. If you were allowed to leave and return the field without consequence that could and probably would happen.

Yeah, and I'm sure that has happened that brought on the rule, but so what if the guy started in bounds and decided to go hide? They can't see him do that? Still seems unlikely to me that a coach would expect to gain from his guy hiding on the sideline. Another change would be to say the player can step out but not be completely off the field which would make more sense.

So a guy pops into his team's bench area behind the coaches and some players, and he and 4 bench guys run down the sidelines and stop at various places. Defender has lost track and doesn't know which one is the guy who started the play, and if he picks the wrong guy, the real guy comes back onto the field and is wide open. Heck, the ref would be confused too. What if another player with the same number comes back onto the field? You know we have offensive and defensive guys with the same number, right? Crazy but someone would take advantage of it one way or another if they could.

You think that's likely to happen? I don't.

 

[Kernal]

Contact starts at about the 18 yard line. Reilly gets between the defender and the boundary, and as the defender continues out of bounds, he takes Reilly with him. What you can't see from this angle is the defender's arm & shoulder on Reilly, maintaining contact for a good five yards, impelling him out of bounds. This was very evident live, and several people in my section were yelling "INTERFERENCE!" before Reilly caught the pass and we all lost our minds.

I also keep reading/hearing that the defender was turning looking for the ball and therefore couldn't have pushed (actually it's "forced") Reilly out of bounds. If the DB was looking for the ball as claimed then why didn't he make the catch instead of Reilly? The DB had better position. The answer is he wasn't looking for the ball, he was intentionally running (forcing) Reilly out-of-bounds. The DB had no idea where the ball was.

 

[NUance]

Contact starts at about the 18 yard line. Reilly gets between the defender and the boundary, and as the defender continues out of bounds, he takes Reilly with him. What you can't see from this angle is the defender's arm & shoulder on Reilly, maintaining contact for a good five yards, impelling him out of bounds. This was very evident live, and several people in my section were yelling "INTERFERENCE!" before Reilly caught the pass and we all lost our minds.

Awesome view of the play, Knapp. Thanks for posting!

Boy, Tommy really got wiped out right after he threw.

 

[olddominionhusker]

Because the boundaries of the field have to be enforced in some way. Take an absurd example. If the rule didn't exist. In on the field as a wideour at the snap. I take of down field but decide to run into the sideline to camouflage myself so to speAK then come back in to make a play. If you were allowed to leave and return the field without consequence that could and probably would happen.

Yeah, and I'm sure that has happened that brought on the rule, but so what if the guy started in bounds and decided to go hide? They can't see him do that? Still seems unlikely to me that a coach would expect to gain from his guy hiding on the sideline. Another change would be to say the player can step out but not be completely off the field which would make more sense.

So a guy pops into his team's bench area behind the coaches and some players, and he and 4 bench guys run down the sidelines and stop at various places. Defender has lost track and doesn't know which one is the guy who started the play, and if he picks the wrong guy, the real guy comes back onto the field and is wide open. Heck, the ref would be confused too. What if another player with the same number comes back onto the field? You know we have offensive and defensive guys with the same number, right? Crazy but someone would take advantage of it one way or another if they could.

You think that's likely to happen? I don't.

Whatever happens I just want you to know you have my full support if they ever let you rewrite the rulebook Hayseed. Those games would be amazing. The DB tracking the out of bounds receiver down the sideline behind a wall of players shifting positions. Where will he come out!?!? It would be like a street chase scene and football rolled into one.

You sir are from the future and I salute you.

 

[knapplc]

I also keep reading/hearing that the defender was turning looking for the ball and therefore couldn't have pushed (actually it's "forced") Reilly out of bounds. If the DB was looking for the ball as claimed then why didn't he make the catch instead of Reilly? The DB had better position. The answer is he wasn't looking for the ball, he was intentionally running (forcing) Reilly out-of-bounds. The DB had no idea where the ball was.

Actually, the way I saw it, once Reilly got on the defender's hip the defender turned his head to look for the ball while maintaining contact with Reilly for several yards.

That's what took them out of bounds - he didn't know where he was on the field, he was looking for the ball and maintaining contact with his man.

 

[Kernal]

I also keep reading/hearing that the defender was turning looking for the ball and therefore couldn't have pushed (actually it's "forced") Reilly out of bounds. If the DB was looking for the ball as claimed then why didn't he make the catch instead of Reilly? The DB had better position. The answer is he wasn't looking for the ball, he was intentionally running (forcing) Reilly out-of-bounds. The DB had no idea where the ball was.

Actually, the way I saw it, once Reilly got on the defender's hip the defender turned his head to look for the ball while maintaining contact with Reilly for several yards.

That's what took them out of bounds - he didn't know where he was on the field, he was looking for the ball and maintaining contact with his man.

I agree the DB maintained contact and forced Reilly out of bounds. Whether or not he knew where they were on the field is probably unknowable. But watch this clip at 1:14 where the DB sticks out his arms to hold Reilly back. That's what makes it seem to me like he knew where they were on the sideline and had no idea where the ball was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OprhEDq7r6U?t=1m14s

eta: at the very least it would have been pass interference.

 

[VA Husker Fan]

Because the boundaries of the field have to be enforced in some way. Take an absurd example. If the rule didn't exist. In on the field as a wideour at the snap. I take of down field but decide to run into the sideline to camouflage myself so to speAK then come back in to make a play. If you were allowed to leave and return the field without consequence that could and probably would happen.

Yeah, and I'm sure that has happened that brought on the rule, but so what if the guy started in bounds and decided to go hide? They can't see him do that? Still seems unlikely to me that a coach would expect to gain from his guy hiding on the sideline. Another change would be to say the player can step out but not be completely off the field which would make more sense.

So a guy pops into his team's bench area behind the coaches and some players, and he and 4 bench guys run down the sidelines and stop at various places. Defender has lost track and doesn't know which one is the guy who started the play, and if he picks the wrong guy, the real guy comes back onto the field and is wide open. Heck, the ref would be confused too. What if another player with the same number comes back onto the field? You know we have offensive and defensive guys with the same number, right? Crazy but someone would take advantage of it one way or another if they could.

You think that's likely to happen? I don't.

Make it legal to go in and out of bounds as you please and I guarantee someone will take advantage of it. It wouldn't surprise me if they had to put the rule in because it was done, but I don't know the origin of the rule.

 

[Kernal]

Because the boundaries of the field have to be enforced in some way. Take an absurd example. If the rule didn't exist. In on the field as a wideour at the snap. I take of down field but decide to run into the sideline to camouflage myself so to speAK then come back in to make a play. If you were allowed to leave and return the field without consequence that could and probably would happen.

Yeah, and I'm sure that has happened that brought on the rule, but so what if the guy started in bounds and decided to go hide? They can't see him do that? Still seems unlikely to me that a coach would expect to gain from his guy hiding on the sideline. Another change would be to say the player can step out but not be completely off the field which would make more sense.

So a guy pops into his team's bench area behind the coaches and some players, and he and 4 bench guys run down the sidelines and stop at various places. Defender has lost track and doesn't know which one is the guy who started the play, and if he picks the wrong guy, the real guy comes back onto the field and is wide open. Heck, the ref would be confused too. What if another player with the same number comes back onto the field? You know we have offensive and defensive guys with the same number, right? Crazy but someone would take advantage of it one way or another if they could.

You think that's likely to happen? I don't.

Make it legal to go in and out of bounds as you please and I guarantee someone will take advantage of it. It wouldn't surprise me if they had to put the rule in because it was done, but I don't know the origin of the rule.

Probably Tom Osborne, the man who made the fumblerooski famous by running it in the MNC game.

And don't forget the "Bounce Rooskie."

 

[NebraskaShellback]

It was the right call by the refs. Now I am wonder which poster is Mark Dantonio?!

 

[Hayseed]

Because the boundaries of the field have to be enforced in some way. Take an absurd example. If the rule didn't exist. In on the field as a wideour at the snap. I take of down field but decide to run into the sideline to camouflage myself so to speAK then come back in to make a play. If you were allowed to leave and return the field without consequence that could and probably would happen.

Yeah, and I'm sure that has happened that brought on the rule, but so what if the guy started in bounds and decided to go hide? They can't see him do that? Still seems unlikely to me that a coach would expect to gain from his guy hiding on the sideline. Another change would be to say the player can step out but not be completely off the field which would make more sense.

So a guy pops into his team's bench area behind the coaches and some players, and he and 4 bench guys run down the sidelines and stop at various places. Defender has lost track and doesn't know which one is the guy who started the play, and if he picks the wrong guy, the real guy comes back onto the field and is wide open. Heck, the ref would be confused too. What if another player with the same number comes back onto the field? You know we have offensive and defensive guys with the same number, right? Crazy but someone would take advantage of it one way or another if they could.

You think that's likely to happen? I don't.

Whatever happens I just want you to know you have my full support if they ever let you rewrite the rulebook Hayseed. Those games would be amazing. The DB tracking the out of bounds receiver down the sideline behind a wall of players shifting positions. Where will he come out!?!? It would be like a street chase scene and football rolled into one.

You sir are from the future and I salute you.

Sorry to disappoint you, but while I don't think any chase scenes would realistically happen, I would just rewrite it that you can step out of bounds and come back in. I'd consider a 5 second rule but that would give too much discretion to the referees and we wouldn't want their judgement to decide the play. I'm pretty sure you can go out and back in any time you want in basketball and it hasn't led to any mystery slam dunks.

 

[Hayseed]

I also keep reading/hearing that the defender was turning looking for the ball and therefore couldn't have pushed (actually it's "forced") Reilly out of bounds. If the DB was looking for the ball as claimed then why didn't he make the catch instead of Reilly? The DB had better position. The answer is he wasn't looking for the ball, he was intentionally running (forcing) Reilly out-of-bounds. The DB had no idea where the ball was.

Actually, the way I saw it, once Reilly got on the defender's hip the defender turned his head to look for the ball while maintaining contact with Reilly for several yards.

That's what took them out of bounds - he didn't know where he was on the field, he was looking for the ball and maintaining contact with his man.

That's true....didn't see it that well but it looked like our guy would've had to go through theirs and that would've been a penalty if he did; 15 yard Running Over Player penalty.

 

[olddominionhusker]

It was the right call by the refs. Now I am wonder which poster is Mark Dantonio?!

I finally had a chance to track down the MSU reaction to the play and from what I've found its a complete shoulder shrug. Not a single quote I saw from them blamed the loss on that play or even bitched about the call. This goes for player and coach quotes I saw in this piece.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/126594/blame-poor-play-not-the-officials-spartans-say-for-crushing-loss-at-nebraska

Overall I think that's taking a tough loss like a man