Season Predictions

[cm husker]

In '98, we had to replace 4 starters and 5 of the top 6 across the OL along with a bunch of skill players including the QB.

Yeah, and that was the worst season we'd had since at least the 70's.

Yeah, and it was still 9-4 with several close losses against one of the toughest schedules we've had since the 70s.

Point is, a <.600 or less season is not justified by some turnover and inexperience.

Sick of the excuses being laid ahead of time, especially when it involves putting the blame on inexperienced players.

 

[cm husker]

It's also a reality that players at the other schools around the country who are in the two deep have probably actually played in a college game before. We on the other hand don't have that. So I was simply saying that the wear and tear of the season could catch up to them later in the year.

Take it fwiw.

Not sure what you mean by the bolded. Or the point your trying to make. If it's that there are teams that have 2-deeps that consist entirely of players who've played more than Nebraska's 2-deep, I'd like to see those examples. Can you list some?

 

[cm husker]

It's also a reality that players at the other schools around the country who are in the two deep have probably actually played in a college game before. We on the other hand don't have that. So I was simply saying that the wear and tear of the season could catch up to them later in the year.

Take it fwiw.

I don't think we'll have very many players on our two-deep that haven't played. OL would be the worst - that was mostly self-inflicted but still not much experience. Not much at DL. But other than that (yes, I realize that's 9 out of 22), we actually have about as much experience coming back as we'll ever have.

The problem here is that you mentioned O line as the worst. We need that area to excel. We know what we have in Tommy, he needs strong protection to flourish.

I don't disagree. Which is why I'm puzzled by the insistence to not rotate at all.

Strong protection would help TA but we gave up about the fewest sacks in the nation last year. TA deserves some of the credit for that as well but I don't think our protection was bad at all. What would help TA the most is using a game plan that plays more to his strengths.

Agree.

Put him on the move. Cut the number of reads down.

 

[Landlord]

Sick of the excuses being laid ahead of time, especially when it involves putting the blame on inexperienced players.

What's the difference between "this is my honest assessment and guess of how the team will perform this season" and "i'm going to make some excuses ahead of time", in your eyes?

And what if the inexperienced players are actually to blame?

 

[Mavric]

It's also a reality that players at the other schools around the country who are in the two deep have probably actually played in a college game before. We on the other hand don't have that. So I was simply saying that the wear and tear of the season could catch up to them later in the year.

Take it fwiw.

I don't think we'll have very many players on our two-deep that haven't played. OL would be the worst - that was mostly self-inflicted but still not much experience. Not much at DL. But other than that (yes, I realize that's 9 out of 22), we actually have about as much experience coming back as we'll ever have.

The problem here is that you mentioned O line as the worst. We need that area to excel. We know what we have in Tommy, he needs strong protection to flourish.

I don't disagree. Which is why I'm puzzled by the insistence to not rotate at all.

Strong protection would help TA but we gave up about the fewest sacks in the nation last year. TA deserves some of the credit for that as well but I don't think our protection was bad at all. What would help TA the most is using a game plan that plays more to his strengths.

If the rumors of the staff taking the training wheels off him and letting him move naturally come to fruition it will solve a lot of that.

Could be. But we sure heard a lot going into last year about how this staff was going to do a better job of putting players in a position to success, playing to strengths, not making a square peg go into a round hole, etc., etc., etc. Turned out that not only was that not true, they basically did the opposite of that.

So I'm not holding my breath as of now.

 

[ADS]

It's also a reality that players at the other schools around the country who are in the two deep have probably actually played in a college game before. We on the other hand don't have that. So I was simply saying that the wear and tear of the season could catch up to them later in the year.

Take it fwiw.

Not sure what you mean by the bolded. Or the point your trying to make. If it's that there are teams that have 2-deeps that consist entirely of players who've played more than Nebraska's 2-deep, I'd like to see those examples. Can you list some?

I'm not going to go out of my way to search for the examples you want. All I was saying was that in my eyes the inexperience will eventually catch up to them and it will cost Nebraska a game this season. How f'ing hard is that for you to figure out?

 

[ADS]

It's also a reality that players at the other schools around the country who are in the two deep have probably actually played in a college game before. We on the other hand don't have that. So I was simply saying that the wear and tear of the season could catch up to them later in the year.

Take it fwiw.

I don't think we'll have very many players on our two-deep that haven't played. OL would be the worst - that was mostly self-inflicted but still not much experience. Not much at DL. But other than that (yes, I realize that's 9 out of 22), we actually have about as much experience coming back as we'll ever have.

The problem here is that you mentioned O line as the worst. We need that area to excel. We know what we have in Tommy, he needs strong protection to flourish.

I don't disagree. Which is why I'm puzzled by the insistence to not rotate at all.

Strong protection would help TA but we gave up about the fewest sacks in the nation last year. TA deserves some of the credit for that as well but I don't think our protection was bad at all. What would help TA the most is using a game plan that plays more to his strengths.

If the rumors of the staff taking the training wheels off him and letting him move naturally come to fruition it will solve a lot of that.

Could be. But we sure heard a lot going into last year about how this staff was going to do a better job of putting players in a position to success, playing to strengths, not making a square peg go into a round hole, etc., etc., etc. Turned out that not only was that not true, they basically did the opposite of that.

So I'm not holding my breath as of now.

Honestly I think that had to do with the inability they had to run the ball effectively against teams on first down. Forced them to pass and that put Tommy in a bad spot. For instance the NW, Wisconsin, and Iowa games.

 

[Mavric]

It's also a reality that players at the other schools around the country who are in the two deep have probably actually played in a college game before. We on the other hand don't have that. So I was simply saying that the wear and tear of the season could catch up to them later in the year.

Take it fwiw.

I don't think we'll have very many players on our two-deep that haven't played. OL would be the worst - that was mostly self-inflicted but still not much experience. Not much at DL. But other than that (yes, I realize that's 9 out of 22), we actually have about as much experience coming back as we'll ever have.

The problem here is that you mentioned O line as the worst. We need that area to excel. We know what we have in Tommy, he needs strong protection to flourish.

I don't disagree. Which is why I'm puzzled by the insistence to not rotate at all.

Strong protection would help TA but we gave up about the fewest sacks in the nation last year. TA deserves some of the credit for that as well but I don't think our protection was bad at all. What would help TA the most is using a game plan that plays more to his strengths.

If the rumors of the staff taking the training wheels off him and letting him move naturally come to fruition it will solve a lot of that.

Could be. But we sure heard a lot going into last year about how this staff was going to do a better job of putting players in a position to success, playing to strengths, not making a square peg go into a round hole, etc., etc., etc. Turned out that not only was that not true, they basically did the opposite of that.

So I'm not holding my breath as of now.

Honestly I think that had to do with the inability they had to run the ball effectively against teams on first down. Forced them to pass and that put Tommy in a bad spot. For instance the NW, Wisconsin, and Iowa games.

I'm sure that was a part of it. But I think a lot of our struggles running the ball were because 60% of our running plays were a straight handoff and run the ball right up the middle. Some of that is fine but that's a tough way to expect to have sustained success.

And that is coupled with Langsdorf not being very patient. There were at least two games (pretty sure Purdue was one, can't remember the other one) where he was asked about going away from the running game. His response was basically it seemed to him that we were getting negative yards about 50% of the time. But you look back and we'd only have one or two negative rushing plays for the entire half. So I get the impression that he feels if we aren't getting 5 yards *every* time we run it - not just averaging five per carry - that the running game isn't working and he feels forced to throw it.

 

[Saunders]

It's also a reality that players at the other schools around the country who are in the two deep have probably actually played in a college game before. We on the other hand don't have that. So I was simply saying that the wear and tear of the season could catch up to them later in the year.

Take it fwiw.

I don't think we'll have very many players on our two-deep that haven't played. OL would be the worst - that was mostly self-inflicted but still not much experience. Not much at DL. But other than that (yes, I realize that's 9 out of 22), we actually have about as much experience coming back as we'll ever have.

The problem here is that you mentioned O line as the worst. We need that area to excel. We know what we have in Tommy, he needs strong protection to flourish.

I don't disagree. Which is why I'm puzzled by the insistence to not rotate at all.

Strong protection would help TA but we gave up about the fewest sacks in the nation last year. TA deserves some of the credit for that as well but I don't think our protection was bad at all. What would help TA the most is using a game plan that plays more to his strengths.

If the rumors of the staff taking the training wheels off him and letting him move naturally come to fruition it will solve a lot of that.

Could be. But we sure heard a lot going into last year about how this staff was going to do a better job of putting players in a position to success, playing to strengths, not making a square peg go into a round hole, etc., etc., etc. Turned out that not only was that not true, they basically did the opposite of that.

So I'm not holding my breath as of now.

Honestly I think that had to do with the inability they had to run the ball effectively against teams on first down. Forced them to pass and that put Tommy in a bad spot. For instance the NW, Wisconsin, and Iowa games.

I'm sure that was a part of it. But I think a lot of our struggles running the ball were because 60% of our running plays were a straight handoff and run the ball right up the middle. Some of that is fine but that's a tough way to expect to have sustained success.

And that is coupled with Langsdorf not being very patient. There were at least two games (pretty sure Purdue was one, can't remember the other one) where he was asked about going away from the running game. His response was basically it seemed to him that we were getting negative yards about 50% of the time. But you look back and we'd only have one or two negative rushing plays for the entire half. So I get the impression that he feels if we aren't getting 5 yards *every* time we run it - not just averaging five per carry - that the running game isn't working and he feels forced to throw it.

I think Northwestern was the other.

 

[Redux]

I agree Mavric. It's been rough as a fan trying to get used to their approach to the Run after 7 years of what most Husker fans want to see offensively.

The square peg in the round hole ended up not being Tommy, but Langsdorf IMO. Hopefully it's true that HCMR wants to see more from the QB in terms of mobility moving forward, at the very least just this year since it's TA's Swan Song.

 

[Husker Psycho]

Sick of the excuses being laid ahead of time, especially when it involves putting the blame on inexperienced players.

What's the difference between "this is my honest assessment and guess of how the team will perform this season" and "i'm going to make some excuses ahead of time", in your eyes?

And what if the inexperienced players are actually to blame?

Well that would just explain once again how lame and mindless your excuse is.

Ohio State and Alabama don't have any problems with plugging in new "inexperienced" plyayers... because they recruit well.

So if Nebraska plays poorly this year (that's your guess not mine... I don't make predictions)... then it will be poor recruiting by Nebraska coaches that is to "blame", not the inexperienced players excuse.

No more excuses!

 

[Landlord]

not my guess either bub

 

[Husker Psycho]

not my guess either bub

Apparently it is bub

What's the difference between "this is my honest assessment and guess of how the team will perform this season" and "i'm going to make some excuses ahead of time", in your eyes?

And what if the inexperienced players are actually to blame?

 

[cm husker]

It's also a reality that players at the other schools around the country who are in the two deep have probably actually played in a college game before. We on the other hand don't have that. So I was simply saying that the wear and tear of the season could catch up to them later in the year.

Take it fwiw.

Not sure what you mean by the bolded. Or the point your trying to make. If it's that there are teams that have 2-deeps that consist entirely of players who've played more than Nebraska's 2-deep, I'd like to see those examples. Can you list some?

I'm not going to go out of my way to search for the examples you want. All I was saying was that in my eyes the inexperience will eventually catch up to them and it will cost Nebraska a game this season. How f'ing hard is that for you to figure out?

A game, I agree. My issue is with people saying 7-5 and worse may be justifiable because we are in year 2.

I don't expect NU to go 10-2 reg season. But I do expect 9-3. 8-4 would be disappointing. 7-5 or worse, and I'm going to be pretty upset for the guys' whose talent was wasted.

 

[Landlord]

not my guess either bub

Apparently it is bub

What's the difference between "this is my honest assessment and guess of how the team will perform this season" and "i'm going to make some excuses ahead of time", in your eyes?

And what if the inexperienced players are actually to blame?

Point out where in there I made a guess that we will perform poorly this year, please.