Bo Pelini to PURDUE?

[ColoradoHusk]

This would be awesome and I hope it were to come true. On the topic of Purdue, I am shocked there are so many big names being thrown out there for the position. I don't see Purdue as a premier job and in fact see it as a bottom dweller job with a ton of obstacles and no tradition.

But this happens with every job search. The people putting these names out aren't the people actually doing the search, they're people who want you to click their website, or who want to win the internet. These lists are all the same, and very few of them have any bearing on reality.

Think of all the lists that were created when Nebraska fired Bo Pelini. Insiders everywhere had their top five, names in the mix, so-and-so's been talked to, bap bap bap.

Not one of those lists had Mike Riley on it.

And most of the fans on this board were "Mike who?" and were throwing a fit when Riley was hired.

i knew who Mike Riley was.

I'm gonna be blunt honest. Ppl who seriously (and i say seriously. Cuz I think some of the banter of not knowing who Riley was was kind of in a sarcastic tone cuz he was the farthest thing from the radar. it was a surprise.) Ppl who seriously who did not know who he is are those who just simply do not pay attn to, and do not know nearly as much about college football as they act like. Theyre the ones who watch Nebraska only, dont pay much attn to anything else other than a score ticker. Its' not a bad thing. Thats their perogative. And it's just my observation.

I knew who Riley was, as well. I agree that there are a lot of people on here who just follow Nebraska football, and not college football, as a whole. There are also a lot of people that are a lot younger than me who didn't realize that Riley had been a head coach in the NFL and college game for nearly 20 years.

 

[NUance]

And despite the claims of his anger problem, he knows how to draw effort out of kids. And that's the #2 most important aspect of coaching, just behind being a truly gifted offensive or defensive mind.

Claims of anger problems? Claims? Merely claims? Ha ha! Perhaps a bit of an understatement, donchya think?. He might be the angriest coach in FBS.

 

[Count 'Bility]

This would be awesome and I hope it were to come true. On the topic of Purdue, I am shocked there are so many big names being thrown out there for the position. I don't see Purdue as a premier job and in fact see it as a bottom dweller job with a ton of obstacles and no tradition.

But this happens with every job search. The people putting these names out aren't the people actually doing the search, they're people who want you to click their website, or who want to win the internet. These lists are all the same, and very few of them have any bearing on reality.

Think of all the lists that were created when Nebraska fired Bo Pelini. Insiders everywhere had their top five, names in the mix, so-and-so's been talked to, bap bap bap.

Not one of those lists had Mike Riley on it.

And most of the fans on this board were "Mike who?" and were throwing a fit when Riley was hired.

i knew who Mike Riley was.

I'm gonna be blunt honest. Ppl who seriously (and i say seriously. Cuz I think some of the banter of not knowing who Riley was was kind of in a sarcastic tone cuz he was the farthest thing from the radar. it was a surprise.) Ppl who seriously who did not know who he is are those who just simply do not pay attn to, and do not know nearly as much about college football as they act like. Theyre the ones who watch Nebraska only, dont pay much attn to anything else other than a score ticker. Its' not a bad thing. Thats their perogative. And it's just my observation.

I knew who Riley was, as well. I agree that there are a lot of people on here who just follow Nebraska football, and not college football, as a whole. There are also a lot of people that are a lot younger than me who didn't realize that Riley had been a head coach in the NFL and college game for nearly 20 years.

That's true. And like I said. I'm not poking fun or saying it's a bad thing. Just a blunt assessment. Cuz in some of those not knowing cases, they used that as a means of discrediting the hire in numerous ways. Those folks were mad cuz they didnt know who he was and it wasnt Tressel. Those who did know who he was, were curious (not excited) and knew that something like Tressel wasnt happening anyway. Even as fun as that nutty Tressel watch was for that week.

 

[ColoradoHusk]

This would be awesome and I hope it were to come true. On the topic of Purdue, I am shocked there are so many big names being thrown out there for the position. I don't see Purdue as a premier job and in fact see it as a bottom dweller job with a ton of obstacles and no tradition.

But this happens with every job search. The people putting these names out aren't the people actually doing the search, they're people who want you to click their website, or who want to win the internet. These lists are all the same, and very few of them have any bearing on reality.

Think of all the lists that were created when Nebraska fired Bo Pelini. Insiders everywhere had their top five, names in the mix, so-and-so's been talked to, bap bap bap.

Not one of those lists had Mike Riley on it.

And most of the fans on this board were "Mike who?" and were throwing a fit when Riley was hired.

i knew who Mike Riley was.

I'm gonna be blunt honest. Ppl who seriously (and i say seriously. Cuz I think some of the banter of not knowing who Riley was was kind of in a sarcastic tone cuz he was the farthest thing from the radar. it was a surprise.) Ppl who seriously who did not know who he is are those who just simply do not pay attn to, and do not know nearly as much about college football as they act like. Theyre the ones who watch Nebraska only, dont pay much attn to anything else other than a score ticker. Its' not a bad thing. Thats their perogative. And it's just my observation.

I knew who Riley was, as well. I agree that there are a lot of people on here who just follow Nebraska football, and not college football, as a whole. There are also a lot of people that are a lot younger than me who didn't realize that Riley had been a head coach in the NFL and college game for nearly 20 years.

That's true. And like I said. I'm not poking fun or saying it's a bad thing. Just a blunt assessment. Cuz in some of those not knowing cases, they used that as a means of discrediting the hire in numerous ways. Those folks were mad cuz they didnt know who he was and it wasnt Tressel. Those who did know who he was, were curious (not excited) and knew that something like Tressel wasnt happening anyway. Even as fun as that nutty Tressel watch was for that week.

I was very curious and cautiously optimistic when Riley was hired. I knew Tressel wasn't going to be hired, and Riley checked all the boxes that Eichorst wanted. He was basically the exact opposite of what Bo was.

 

[knapplc]

I did not know who Mike Riley was, and I pay pretty good attention to college football.

I am the one who broke the news here on HuskerBoard.

Did NOT see this coming. I know literally nothing about the man.

I don't think not knowing anything about a guy who had a mediocre record at a bottom-dwelling school and who appeared to be there for the duration of his career is an indictment of one's college football knowledge. There were members of the local press who had to scramble to find out about him.

 

[Count 'Bility]

I did not know who Mike Riley was, and I pay pretty good attention to college football.

I am the one who broke the news here on HuskerBoard.

Did NOT see this coming. I know literally nothing about the man.

I don't think not knowing anything about a guy who had a mediocre record at a bottom-dwelling school and who appeared to be there for the duration of his career is an indictment of one's college football knowledge. There were members of the local press who had to scramble to find out about him.

I had to look, and yeah, i did. I made a vague statement that lumped everyone into one. i try not to do that. I shoulda said "some" or "most.

2nd. Did you use that lack of knowledge about him to immediately discredit the hire? Did you use to bomblast Eichorst and the administration for firing Bo? Did you use it as reasoning for not giving him any chance whatsoever from day 1? Or do you spend sometime on google figuring who he is and why you didnt know about him to begin with? i would guess the latter. As well as others. but there were also many others who fall into my initial category.

 

[knapplc]

I did not know who Mike Riley was, and I pay pretty good attention to college football.

I am the one who broke the news here on HuskerBoard.

Did NOT see this coming. I know literally nothing about the man.

I don't think not knowing anything about a guy who had a mediocre record at a bottom-dwelling school and who appeared to be there for the duration of his career is an indictment of one's college football knowledge. There were members of the local press who had to scramble to find out about him.

I had to look, and yeah, i did. I made a vague statement that lumped everyone into one. i try not to do that. I shoulda said "some" or "most.
2nd. Did you use that lack of knowledge about him to immediately discredit the hire? Did you use to bomblast Eichorst and the administration for firing Bo? Did you use it as reasoning for not giving him any chance whatsoever from day 1? Or do you spend sometime on google figuring who he is and why you didnt know about him to begin with? i would guess the latter. As well as others. but there were also many others who fall into my initial category.

I kept an open mind and let the situation play out. There was a recent poll here in the past week/10 days where I voted skeptical/skeptical on the Riley hire. Really, I meant I'm just waiting to see how he does. I'm not prejudging him.

 

[Count 'Bility]

I did not know who Mike Riley was, and I pay pretty good attention to college football.

I am the one who broke the news here on HuskerBoard.

Did NOT see this coming. I know literally nothing about the man.

I don't think not knowing anything about a guy who had a mediocre record at a bottom-dwelling school and who appeared to be there for the duration of his career is an indictment of one's college football knowledge. There were members of the local press who had to scramble to find out about him.

I had to look, and yeah, i did. I made a vague statement that lumped everyone into one. i try not to do that. I shoulda said "some" or "most.
2nd. Did you use that lack of knowledge about him to immediately discredit the hire? Did you use to bomblast Eichorst and the administration for firing Bo? Did you use it as reasoning for not giving him any chance whatsoever from day 1? Or do you spend sometime on google figuring who he is and why you didnt know about him to begin with? i would guess the latter. As well as others. but there were also many others who fall into my initial category.

I kept an open mind and let the situation play out. There was a recent poll here in the past week/10 days where I voted skeptical/skeptical on the Riley hire. Really, I meant I'm just waiting to see how he does. I'm not prejudging him.

We should all be skeptical until he accomplished what we clearly expect, right?

i didnt vote on that poll simply because of that. its pretty cut and dried to me. Of course I think too much...........

 

[knapplc]

We should all be skeptical until he accomplished what we clearly expect, right?

i didnt vote on that poll simply because of that. its pretty cut and dried to me. Of course I think too much...........

Well, I don't know what my expectations are, so I'm not holding him to anything. Mostly I just want to have fun being a fan again, and for the team to not look like buffoons on the field. If we're playing good football, a reasonable amount of success is bound to follow. That's mostly what I want. Riley's doing that so far.

 

[Bowfin]

I still think he has the mind and fortitude to be a highly successful coach at the highest level.

This is why you are seen as an ultimate troll.

Cmon man. Youre not even trying to hide it anymore.

So...how many losing seasons has Pelini been involved in as a coach, whether head or assistant or coordinator or even his one year at Iowa as a grad assistant?

If I am not mistaken, doesn't the man own a Super Bowl ring and a National Championship ring from when he coached at other places?

Pelini worked with and was hired by the likes of Hayden Fry, George Seifert, Bob Stoops, Mike Sherman, Les Miles, and Pete Carroll...oh, and that Tom Osborne guy. I don't recall any epic problems with these guys or the teams such as happened at Nebraska his last couple of years.

So, if one wants to ignore the above and insist on a different narrative, it begs the question of who is the actual troll?

As an aside, Pelini is 6-1 after losing starting and back up quarterbacks. Here is a quote from a sports website commenting on Pelini back in 2014:

"Based strictly on his coaching ability, Youngstown State is certainly lucky to have a coach of Pelini’s caliber."

http://thespun.com/big-ten/nebraska/youngstown-state-releases-a-statement-about-bo-pelinis-profanity-laced-rant

So all of that and all of them against your opinion, Count'bility...yet cm Husker is the troll, right?.

Ever hear the Shakespeare phrase, "All is yellow to the jaundiced eye."?

 

[ColoradoHusk]

At this point, Riley would have to win the next 6 games in a row to get his NU winning percentage to be the same as Bo's tenure at Nebraska (66-27, .709 winning percentage).

 

[Count 'Bility]

I still think he has the mind and fortitude to be a highly successful coach at the highest level.

This is why you are seen as an ultimate troll.

Cmon man. Youre not even trying to hide it anymore.

So...how many losing seasons has Pelini been involved in as a coach, whether head or assistant or coordinator or even his one year at Iowa as a grad assistant?

If I am not mistaken, doesn't the man own a Super Bowl ring and a National Championship ring from when he coached at other places?

Pelini worked with and was hired by the likes of Hayden Fry, George Seifert, Bob Stoops, Mike Sherman, Les Miles, and Pete Carroll...oh, and that Tom Osborne guy. I don't recall any epic problems with these guys or the teams such as happened at Nebraska his last couple of years.

So, if one wants to ignore the above and insist on a different narrative, it begs the question of who is the actual troll?

As an aside, Pelini is 6-1 after losing starting and back up quarterbacks. Here is a quote from a sports website commenting on Pelini back in 2014:

"Based strictly on his coaching ability, Youngstown State is certainly lucky to have a coach of Pelini’s caliber."

http://thespun.com/big-ten/nebraska/youngstown-state-releases-a-statement-about-bo-pelinis-profanity-laced-rant

So all of that and all of them against your opinion, Count'bility...yet cm Husker is the troll, right?.

Ever hear the Shakespeare phrase, "All is yellow to the jaundiced eye."?

Do any of those positions where he garnered success qualify as the highest level? Position coach in the NFL? Coordinator at LSU.

And i think i said Pelini is a good coach.............................

I still think he has the mind and fortitude to be a highly successful coach at the highest level.

Really? Those are the two characteristics I'd consider him worst at. He might succeed despite his flaws (other coaches have), but mentally he's pretty unstable. He reminds me of Woody Hayes, who's instability was his ultimate undoing.

The dude is pretty much an undisputed defensive genius.

And despite the claims of his anger problem, he knows how to draw effort out of kids. And that's the #2 most important aspect of coaching, just behind being a truly gifted offensive or defensive mind.

Knowing defense and being able to coach defense are far two different things. I've always been one to think that Bo may have been 10 years ahead of his time the way he was able to handle spreads in the Big 12. But once the threat of balance of the bigten came into the mix, sh#t rolled downhill in a hurry.

His anger problem is not a "claim". its a documented fact in audio and visual that the guy seriously lacks any sort of self control in the face of adversity and opposition.

the effort thing is questionable. Sure you can make claims to all the comebacks and such over his time but there's two things. One, we can find just as many cases of the wheels coming and packing it in. And 2, the lack of effort that dug them those holes in the first place. Effort is more than just playing hard. I think that's a dynamic a lot of folks dont get when talking about "effort".

College coaching is a pressure packed job. Even at a place like Purdue. Too much money involved. Bo showed that when things are on the uptick, he's good. But when the pressure caves in, so does he. Even just last year, an opponents radio team was talking about their team's gameplan to just get the game to the 4th qtr against YSU and wait for them to crumble. This literally happened. And when your opponent main game plan is centered around your temperement, or lack thereof, youve got issues. Bo and co. did crumble. They got a couple personal fouls and so on, and lost the game.

You can point out all wins at YSU you wnat. He's also got a couple of big boy Power 5 level players playing for him. But it's not about whether Bo is a good coach or not. Of course he's a good coach. If youre coaching at a level to that of any college or above, It's safe to say you know football, how to coach it, how to manage a program and so on, to an extent. The debate is whether he's good ENOUGH for a place like Nebraska. He's not. And I'm not sure he's even good enough for any FBS level job. he's shown too many times he cant handle the situation and also burned the bridge hot enough that it's gonna be hard to even get the opportunity again.

..............yep. yep I did.

i agree he could have success at places. Just not at the highest level. Why? HE ALREADY PROVED HE COULDNT. "He hit his ceiling" is the common phrase used.

And yes. CM is a troll. This thread isnt an exlusive case of his antics to push the buttons with ridiculous comments.

 

[Ratt Mhule]

I still think he has the mind and fortitude to be a highly successful coach at the highest level.

Really? Those are the two characteristics I'd consider him worst at. He might succeed despite his flaws (other coaches have), but mentally he's pretty unstable. He reminds me of Woody Hayes, who's instability was his ultimate undoing.

The dude is pretty much an undisputed defensive genius.

And despite the claims of his anger problem, he knows how to draw effort out of kids. And that's the #2 most important aspect of coaching, just behind being a truly gifted offensive or defensive mind.

Except at stopping the jet sweep

 

[SuperBigFan69]

I still think he has the mind and fortitude to be a highly successful coach at the highest level.

This is why you are seen as an ultimate troll.

Cmon man. Youre not even trying to hide it anymore.

So...how many losing seasons has Pelini been involved in as a coach, whether head or assistant or coordinator or even his one year at Iowa as a grad assistant?

If I am not mistaken, doesn't the man own a Super Bowl ring and a National Championship ring from when he coached at other places?

Pelini worked with and was hired by the likes of Hayden Fry, George Seifert, Bob Stoops, Mike Sherman, Les Miles, and Pete Carroll...oh, and that Tom Osborne guy. I don't recall any epic problems with these guys or the teams such as happened at Nebraska his last couple of years.

So, if one wants to ignore the above and insist on a different narrative, it begs the question of who is the actual troll?

As an aside, Pelini is 6-1 after losing starting and back up quarterbacks. Here is a quote from a sports website commenting on Pelini back in 2014:

"Based strictly on his coaching ability, Youngstown State is certainly lucky to have a coach of Pelini’s caliber."

http://thespun.com/big-ten/nebraska/youngstown-state-releases-a-statement-about-bo-pelinis-profanity-laced-rant

So all of that and all of them against your opinion, Count'bility...yet cm Husker is the troll, right?.

Ever hear the Shakespeare phrase, "All is yellow to the jaundiced eye."?

Do any of those positions where he garnered success qualify as the highest level? Position coach in the NFL? Coordinator at LSU.

And i think i said Pelini is a good coach.............................

I still think he has the mind and fortitude to be a highly successful coach at the highest level.

Really? Those are the two characteristics I'd consider him worst at. He might succeed despite his flaws (other coaches have), but mentally he's pretty unstable. He reminds me of Woody Hayes, who's instability was his ultimate undoing.

The dude is pretty much an undisputed defensive genius.

And despite the claims of his anger problem, he knows how to draw effort out of kids. And that's the #2 most important aspect of coaching, just behind being a truly gifted offensive or defensive mind.

Knowing defense and being able to coach defense are far two different things. I've always been one to think that Bo may have been 10 years ahead of his time the way he was able to handle spreads in the Big 12. But once the threat of balance of the bigten came into the mix, sh#t rolled downhill in a hurry.

His anger problem is not a "claim". its a documented fact in audio and visual that the guy seriously lacks any sort of self control in the face of adversity and opposition.

the effort thing is questionable. Sure you can make claims to all the comebacks and such over his time but there's two things. One, we can find just as many cases of the wheels coming and packing it in. And 2, the lack of effort that dug them those holes in the first place. Effort is more than just playing hard. I think that's a dynamic a lot of folks dont get when talking about "effort".

College coaching is a pressure packed job. Even at a place like Purdue. Too much money involved. Bo showed that when things are on the uptick, he's good. But when the pressure caves in, so does he. Even just last year, an opponents radio team was talking about their team's gameplan to just get the game to the 4th qtr against YSU and wait for them to crumble. This literally happened. And when your opponent main game plan is centered around your temperement, or lack thereof, youve got issues. Bo and co. did crumble. They got a couple personal fouls and so on, and lost the game.

You can point out all wins at YSU you wnat. He's also got a couple of big boy Power 5 level players playing for him. But it's not about whether Bo is a good coach or not. Of course he's a good coach. If youre coaching at a level to that of any college or above, It's safe to say you know football, how to coach it, how to manage a program and so on, to an extent. The debate is whether he's good ENOUGH for a place like Nebraska. He's not. And I'm not sure he's even good enough for any FBS level job. he's shown too many times he cant handle the situation and also burned the bridge hot enough that it's gonna be hard to even get the opportunity again.

..............yep. yep I did.

i agree he could have success at places. Just not at the highest level. Why? HE ALREADY PROVED HE COULDNT. "He hit his ceiling" is the common phrase used.

And yes. CM is a troll. This thread isnt an exlusive case of his antics to push the buttons with ridiculous comments.

Well...wait. What is "success" at the highest level?

Is it just a NC? I could live with that as the criteria for success at the highest level if you that is what you are saying.

 

[CPT Blackshirt]

I still think he has the mind and fortitude to be a highly successful coach at the highest level.

Really? Those are the two characteristics I'd consider him worst at. He might succeed despite his flaws (other coaches have), but mentally he's pretty unstable. He reminds me of Woody Hayes, who's instability was his ultimate undoing.

The dude is pretty much an undisputed defensive genius.

And despite the claims of his anger problem, he knows how to draw effort out of kids. And that's the #2 most important aspect of coaching, just behind being a truly gifted offensive or defensive mind.

Except at stopping the jet sweep

And anything else that Wisconsin generally ran. And knowing how to draw out effort is still questionable in my mind.