Nebfanatic
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They went 10-2, 5-7, 7-6 the next 3 years after that too so from 97-07 they were 74-61.
I think those seasons include wins that were stripped from the record books for NCAA violations.They went 10-2, 5-7, 7-6 the next 3 years after that too so from 97-07 they were 74-61.
It makes absolutely no sense to say "never" as every King of College Football has gone into a trough -- most of them worse than Nebraska's.
Yes you are correct. Technically they would be 54-61 over that span I believe.I think those seasons include wins that were stripped from the record books for NCAA violations.They went 10-2, 5-7, 7-6 the next 3 years after that too so from 97-07 they were 74-61.
I'm kinda folding this thread in with the other thread where an ESPN host claims "Nebraska will never be a national power again."
It makes absolutely no sense to say "never" as every King of College Football has gone into a trough -- most of them worse than Nebraska's.
But the guy subbing for Finebaum is certainly right that the landscape has changed, and Nebraska will never regain the clout it had when national TV exposure was much more limited.
I mean they do have two national titles and three conference championships since 2003. Won a sugar bowl not included in those and participated in a third national title game but lost. Again the highs overrule the lows.BlitzFirst said:I'm just glad he moved LSU up with their 7 win seasons they deserve to move up to kings.
We're recruiting pretty well right now tbh. Bo just wasn't much of a recruiter.My take is:
What is Nebraka's "sex appeal?"
Oregon had their uniforms, a loud a$$ stadium, a Heisman, multiple BCS/Natty/Nike...
Notre Dame had high draft picks, a couple BCS, rankings, Mante Teo, etc.
Penn St had a huge scandal, a reclamation
USC always fares well w their QB and draft picks
LSU, plain ballers
Louisville been upswing
Houston kind of Cinderella types
tOSU/MICH love em or hate em, always there.
Alabama, uhhhh, yeah.
Florida St, cache and in the mix
In other words: a sell out streak, 9 win seasons and no real "identity", and lack luster draft status leaves us neither here nor there.
If I was Wisconsin or MSU, I'd be demanding more respect. If I were Clemson or Oklahoma I'd be asking "we have done much for you lately, no?"
We have no sex appeal. We have no cache. We have nothing to offer a national audience, in the last 10 years except a raging coach and a "rebuild"
I remember a lot of people counting Bama out back then. LSU and Florida were much better jobs. Then they hired LSU's old coach.Alabama's record from 1997 - 2004:
4-7
7-5
10-3
3-8
7-5
10-3
4-9
6-6
2 ranked seasons, 6 unranked seasons, 3 losing seasons
So in 2004 you probably could have dropped Alabama down to Baron status, too.
For that matter, Bama posted unacceptable-by-Nebraska-standards seasons for most of the 1980s.
Totally agree. And we're actually "selling something". Cant pin it down quite yet, can't articulate what that is...but HCMR is selling some sweet honey to some promising kids. Now we need a Mariotta, a bad a$$ Bowl win (like Boise or TCU have had recently). We need a Christian McCraffry or an undeniably sick a$$ Blackshirt defense.We're recruiting pretty well right now tbh. Bo just wasn't much of a recruiter.My take is:
What is Nebraka's "sex appeal?"
Oregon had their uniforms, a loud a$$ stadium, a Heisman, multiple BCS/Natty/Nike...
Notre Dame had high draft picks, a couple BCS, rankings, Mante Teo, etc.
Penn St had a huge scandal, a reclamation
USC always fares well w their QB and draft picks
LSU, plain ballers
Louisville been upswing
Houston kind of Cinderella types
tOSU/MICH love em or hate em, always there.
Alabama, uhhhh, yeah.
Florida St, cache and in the mix
In other words: a sell out streak, 9 win seasons and no real "identity", and lack luster draft status leaves us neither here nor there.
If I was Wisconsin or MSU, I'd be demanding more respect. If I were Clemson or Oklahoma I'd be asking "we have done much for you lately, no?"
We have no sex appeal. We have no cache. We have nothing to offer a national audience, in the last 10 years except a raging coach and a "rebuild"
They are selling a vision of the future. I agree it would help to have the finished product on display but that's what you do until you do.Totally agree. And we're actually "selling something". Cant pin it down quite yet, can't articulate what that is...but HCMR is selling some sweet honey to some promising kids. Now we need a Mariotta, a bad a$$ Bowl win (like Boise or TCU have had recently). We need a Christian McCraffry or an undeniably sick a$$ Blackshirt defense.We're recruiting pretty well right now tbh. Bo just wasn't much of a recruiter.My take is:
What is Nebraka's "sex appeal?"
Oregon had their uniforms, a loud a$$ stadium, a Heisman, multiple BCS/Natty/Nike...
Notre Dame had high draft picks, a couple BCS, rankings, Mante Teo, etc.
Penn St had a huge scandal, a reclamation
USC always fares well w their QB and draft picks
LSU, plain ballers
Louisville been upswing
Houston kind of Cinderella types
tOSU/MICH love em or hate em, always there.
Alabama, uhhhh, yeah.
Florida St, cache and in the mix
In other words: a sell out streak, 9 win seasons and no real "identity", and lack luster draft status leaves us neither here nor there.
If I was Wisconsin or MSU, I'd be demanding more respect. If I were Clemson or Oklahoma I'd be asking "we have done much for you lately, no?"
We have no sex appeal. We have no cache. We have nothing to offer a national audience, in the last 10 years except a raging coach and a "rebuild"
No one cares, besides us, about a sell out streak or a player on a Super Bowl team for 20 straight years. People like the appeal of a sexy brand or they like pure dominance. Or, sadly people like reclamation after scandal like Miami or PSU. We have had none for a long time.
I think things are trending for us in appeal and brand but gotta win to make it stick.
If Nebraska can win on a big a stage and have a Star player lead that, we will regain our King status.
But if they weren't a king in 2012, what have they done since then to deserve moving up?I mean they do have two national titles and three conference championships since 2003. Won a sugar bowl not included in those and participated in a third national title game but lost. Again the highs overrule the lows.BlitzFirst said:I'm just glad he moved LSU up with their 7 win seasons they deserve to move up to kings.
LSU was moved to kings in 2012 not this editionBut if they weren't a king in 2012, what have they done since then to deserve moving up?I mean they do have two national titles and three conference championships since 2003. Won a sugar bowl not included in those and participated in a third national title game but lost. Again the highs overrule the lows.BlitzFirst said:I'm just glad he moved LSU up with their 7 win seasons they deserve to move up to kings.