Bracketology

[funhusker]

Let's say Iowa beats Michigan.  Then Nebraska beats Iowa and loses to MSU.

That would mean, I assume, the following:

Nebraska beat Michigan in regular season SOUNDLY.

Michigan LOST to Iowa, a team that Nebraska beat 3 times.

How in the world would Michigan still get in ahead of NU?  I'm sure I have a little homerism, but it don't make no sense!

 

[ColoradoHusk]

Let's say Iowa beats Michigan.  Then Nebraska beats Iowa and loses to MSU.

That would mean, I assume, the following:

Nebraska beat Michigan in regular season SOUNDLY.

Michigan LOST to Iowa, a team that Nebraska beat 3 times.

How in the world would Michigan still get in ahead of NU?  I'm sure I have a little homerism, but it don't make no sense!

Because you are only looking at the small sample comparison of Michigan and Nebraska.  Michigan, as a whole, would have a much better resume than NU.

 

[MileHighHusker]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

New one is up.

Still in our same spot.

The frustrating thing about this is basically no matter what outcomes occur in games right now these teams listed below have absolutely true negative movement:

Alabama

Syracuse

Oklahoma

Florida State

Last night I clicked through the history on that and we've been in the same spot for about two weeks. I don't think that gets updated as often as the date says.

 

[HS_Coach_C]

Let's say Iowa beats Michigan.  Then Nebraska beats Iowa and loses to MSU.

That would mean, I assume, the following:

Nebraska beat Michigan in regular season SOUNDLY.

Michigan LOST to Iowa, a team that Nebraska beat 3 times.

How in the world would Michigan still get in ahead of NU?  I'm sure I have a little homerism, but it don't make no sense!

#1 - Nebraska beat Iowa once, it'll be twice if they win in the tournament

#2 - Head to Head results matter very little when there are so many games in a season and so many variables to consider

#3 - Look at the resumes for each team, Michigan's is better on paper

RECORD VS. DI =   23-7      /       22-9

CONF. RECORD =  13-5       /       13-5

SOS =                       87         /        126

RPI =                        25         /         55

VS. TOP 50 =          2-4        /         1-5

VS. 100+ =              16-1      /         18-1

Which team looks better on paper?

Michigan is currently projected as a 5 seed.  If they lose to Iowa, they might drop to a 6 or 7, but they're not getting left out.

 

[HS_Coach_C]

NVM

 

[ScottyIce]

#1 - Nebraska beat Iowa once

#2 - Head to Head results matter very little when there are so many games in a season and so many variables to consider

#3 - Look at the resumes for each team, Michigan's is better on paper

RECORD VS. DI =   23-7      /       22-9

CONF. RECORD =  13-5       /       13-5

SOS =                       87         /        126

RPI =                        25         /         55

VS. TOP 50 =          2-4        /         1-5

VS. 100+ =              16-1      /         18-1

Which team looks better on paper?

Michigan is currently projected as a 5 seed.  If they lose to Iowa, they might drop to a 6 or 7, but they're not getting left out.

PAPER CHAMPS BABY

 

[HS_Coach_C]

PAPER CHAMPS BABY

1 game doesn't determine who gets in the tournament...

St. John's should be in over Villanova, Boston College in over Duke, and Oklahoma State in over Kansas using that argument.

If Nebraska had played at Michigan it would be a better argument.  They win tomorrow that should leave no doubt.  If they lose, it basically invalidates our only good win of the year.

 

[ScottyIce]

1 game doesn't determine who gets in the tournament...

St. John's should be in over Villanova, Boston College in over Duke, and Oklahoma State in over Kansas using that argument.

If Nebraska had played at Michigan it would be a better argument.  They win tomorrow that should leave no doubt.  If they lose, it basically invalidates our only good win of the year.

lol, how did you get that by my comment?

 

[Cdog923]

According to RPIForecast's Wizard:

- a win over Michigan would bump the RPI to 43, and SOS to 95. 

- a win over Iowa would bump the RPI to 55, and SOS to 105

- a loss to Michigan would move the RPI to 60. 

- a loss to Iowa would cause lots of drinking, and people possible jumping into the Missouri River. 

 

[HS_Coach_C]

lol, how did you get that by my comment?

Sorry, I meant to add that to my reasoning of why head to head results matter very little... don't know how/why I ended up quoting you  :dunno

 

[ScottyIce]

Sorry, I meant to add that to my reasoning of why head to head results matter very little... don't know how/why I ended up quoting you  :dunno

Haha, no biggy. I just love to shout from the mountain tops... PAPER CHAMPS BABY! I didn't mean anything by it 

 

[HS_Coach_C]

Here are some teams to root for in conference tournaments so at-large bids aren't stolen.  If any team not listed below wins a conference tournament, it will make the bubble smaller for teams like Nebraska.

Power 6:

ACC: Virginia, Duke, Clemson, North Carolina, NC State, Miami, Virginia Tech (Florida State is also probably a lock)

Big 12: Kansas, West Virginia, Texas Tech, TCU

Big East: Xavier, Villanova, Seton Hall, Butler (and if you can stomach it - Creighton)

Big Ten: NEBRASKA, Michigan State, Purdue, Ohio State (Michigan is a lock for the tourney but we need to beat them)

Pac-12: Arizona (probably USC also if they beat UCLA this week and Arizona State if they beat Cal & Stanford)

SEC: Auburn, Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas (probably Texas A&M or Missouri as well)

Other conferences with possible At-Large teams:

America East: Vermont

American: Cincinnati, Wichita State, or Houston

Atlantic 10: Rhode Island (St. Bonaventure is probably also in so that won't hurt either)

Conference USA: Middle Tennessee (they'll be on the bubble if they lose)

Missouri Valley: Loyola-Chicago (they'll be on the bubble if they lose)

Mountain West: Nevada

Summit: South Dakota State (probably doesn't matter)

Sun Belt: Louisiana (probably doesn't matter)

West Coast: Gonzaga or St. Mary's

Western: New Mexico State (probably doesn't matter)

Conferences with only 1 bid no matter what:

Atlantic Sun: doesn't matter

Big Sky: doesn't matter

Big South: doesn't matter

Big West: doesn't matter

Colonial: doesn't matter

Horizon: doesn't matter

Ivy: doesn't matter

Metro Atlantic: doesn't matter

MAC: doesn't matter

MEAC: doesn't matter

Northeast: doesn't matter

Ohio Valley: doesn't matter

Patriot: doesn't matter

Southern: doesn't matter

Southland: doesn't matter

Southwestern: doesn't matter

 

[HS_Coach_C]

Rooting interests (in order of how much it would help Nebraska):

2/28

Boston College over Syracuse - check

Xavier over Providence - check

Clemson over Florida State - check

Pitt over Notre Dame   (not a big deal if Notre Dame wins) - miss

Texas A&M over Georgia (not a big deal, but Georgia isn't too far off the bubble) - check

UCONN over Temple (Temple is still close to the Bubble according to some) - check

5/6 yesterday - BONUS: St. John's beat Butler

Let's hope today is just as good:

3/1

Michigan over Iowa/Illinois winner

Virginia over Louisville

Cal over Arizona State

Oregon State over Washington

Georgia Tech over NC State

Arkansas State over Louisiana (take away any chance of Louisiana getting an at-large bid)

3/2

NEBRASKA over Michigan/Iowa/Illinois winner (none of this matters if they don't win this game)

Iowa State over Oklahoma

If you think Nebraska needs another good win, then root Michigan State, if you want an easier path to the championship, root against them

3/3

NEBRASKA over Michigan State/Wisconsin/Maryland winner

West Virginia over Texas

St. John's over Providence

Stanford over Arizona State

LSU over Mississippi State

Texas A&M over Alabama

NC State over Louisville

Clemson over Syracuse

Virginia over Notre Dame

St. Louis over St. Bonaventure

Oregon over Washington

Colorado over Utah

Creighton over Marquette

Boston College over Florida State

Tennessee over Georgia

Kansas State over Baylor (I don't know if it matters which way this one goes, I just hope the loser gets bumped out)

3/4

NEBRASKA to win the Big Ten Championship Game

No low RPI teams to win their conference tournaments and steal at-large bids

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[Minnesota_husker]

Here are some teams to root for in conference tournaments so at-large bids aren't stolen.  If any team not listed below wins a conference tournament, it will make the bubble smaller for teams like Nebraska.

Power 6:

ACC: Virginia, Duke, Clemson, North Carolina, NC State, Miami, Virginia Tech (Florida State is also probably a lock)

Big 12: Kansas, West Virginia, Texas Tech, TCU

Big East: Xavier, Villanova, Creighton, Seton Hall, Butler

Big Ten: NEBRASKA, Michigan State, Purdue, Ohio State (Michigan is a lock for the tourney but we need to beat them)

Pac-12: Arizona (probably USC also if they beat UCLA this week and Arizona State if they beat Cal & Stanford)

SEC: Auburn, Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas (probably Texas A&M or Missouri as well)

Other conferences with possible At-Large teams:

America East: Vermont

American: Cincinnati, Wichita State, or Houston

Atlantic 10: Rhode Island (St. Bonaventure is probably also in so that won't hurt either)

Conference USA: Middle Tennessee (they'll be on the bubble if they lose)

Missouri Valley: Loyola-Chicago (they'll be on the bubble if they lose)

Mountain West: Nevada

Summit: South Dakota State (probably doesn't matter)

Sun Belt: Louisiana (probably doesn't matter)

West Coast: Gonzaga or St. Mary's

Western: New Mexico State (probably doesn't matter)

Conferences with only 1 bid no matter what:

Atlantic Sun: doesn't matter

Big Sky: doesn't matter

Big South: doesn't matter

Big West: doesn't matter

Colonial: doesn't matter

Horizon: doesn't matter

Ivy: doesn't matter

Metro Atlantic: doesn't matter

MAC: doesn't matter

MEAC: doesn't matter

Northeast: doesn't matter

Ohio Valley: doesn't matter

Patriot: doesn't matter

Southern: doesn't matter

Southland: doesn't matter

Southwestern: doesn't matter

I AM NOT GOING TO ROOT FOR CREIGHTON... EVER

 

[Mierin]

Michigan's been on a good run themselves. Hopefully we can beat them again.