Mike Daum

[Cdog923]

It's a pretty lazy assessment to watch him for 2-3 games and say "Oh, Nebraska missed on him big time". Well, so did Creighton, Omaha, Wyoming, Colorado, Colorado St. and every other Power 5 team. He simply wasn't a D-1 player coming out of HS. As BR pointed out, the kid was almost cut during his RS season; there's no way he would've been afforded the time to completely remake his body and work on his game if he were at Nebraska. He put the time in, worked his a$$ off, and has become one of the best scorers in CBB; there's absolutely no way to say he would have done the same thing at Nebraska or Creighton. It's the worst type of revisionist history when it comes to sports.

He had 9 D1 offers... notables such as Wyoming, UNO, SDSU, and Air Force

The main knock on kids like this is athleticism, but people always forget about 'how good are you at basketball'

Having D-1 offers =/= being able to play at D-1 level. He would have washed out had he gone to a bigger school.

 

[seaofred92]

It's a pretty lazy assessment to watch him for 2-3 games and say "Oh, Nebraska missed on him big time". Well, so did Creighton, Omaha, Wyoming, Colorado, Colorado St. and every other Power 5 team. He simply wasn't a D-1 player coming out of HS. As BR pointed out, the kid was almost cut during his RS season; there's no way he would've been afforded the time to completely remake his body and work on his game if he were at Nebraska. He put the time in, worked his a$$ off, and has become one of the best scorers in CBB; there's absolutely no way to say he would have done the same thing at Nebraska or Creighton. It's the worst type of revisionist history when it comes to sports.

He had 9 D1 offers... notables such as Wyoming, UNO, SDSU, and Air Force

The main knock on kids like this is athleticism, but people always forget about 'how good are you at basketball'

How do you think Mike Daum guarding Nigel Hayes would have gone this year?

He isn't a good defender, but we also just gave up 93 pts to an average Michigan team at home.

How nice would it have been to have a consistent 3P shooter and spread the floor more for the guards to penetrate?

would've been fantastic, obviously. Against the 3 best teams SDSU played in the non-conference schedule (Wichita State, Cal, ETSU) Daum was 17-38 from the floor (44.7%) and 5-13 (38.4%) from 3.

For comparisons sake:

McVeigh, Jack: 71-192 (37%) from the field, 45-135 (33.3%) from 3

Horne, Jeriah: 46-112 (41.1%) from the field, 21-63 (33.3%) from 3

Roby, Isaiah: 37-91 (40.7%) from the field, 4-19 (21.1%) from 3

Gill, Anton: 16-59 (27.1%) from the field, 8-29 (27.6%) from 3

Taylor, Evan: 58-144 (40.3%) from the field, 4-22 (18.2%) from 3

Jacobson, Michael: 70-178 (39.3%) from the field, 4-23 (17.4%) from 3

http://www.huskers.com/fls/100/MBBStats/2017/TEAMCUME.HTM?DB_OEM_ID=100#TEAM.OCF

There is no doubt that offensively, Nebraska is about as effective as a sack of pubic hair laying at midcourt. I mean the fact that our starting Power Forward shoots 39.3% from the floor should probably tell you everything you need to know about how terrible Nebraska is at scoring the basketball. There is no denying that adding Daum would give us a lift on offense.

I just don't think you can definitevely say that he would have played anywhere near 1. the minutes he currently enjoys at SDSU 2. the freedom of shot selection he currently enjoys at SDSU and 3. as efficiently as he has for SDSU this season. Horne was in the dog house all year because his lack of ability to defend, while statistically being the best shooter we had on the team besides Tai or Glynn. Daum was eaten alive last night by Thurman of Omaha, seriously it was incredible to watch. Daum couldn't defend a castle if there was a moat surrounding it with no bridge and it was being attacked by Girl Scouts. No shot Miles would play him extensive minutes here and I severely doubt this kid would have developed like this if he came to UNL. Imagine the backlash of giving this kid a scholarship out of high school. He was so bad he almost got kicked out of SDSU. Best thing we can do is just cheer for him and maybe he would be interested in grad transferring to his home state for a year down the road.

 

[BIG ERN]

It's a pretty lazy assessment to watch him for 2-3 games and say "Oh, Nebraska missed on him big time". Well, so did Creighton, Omaha, Wyoming, Colorado, Colorado St. and every other Power 5 team. He simply wasn't a D-1 player coming out of HS. As BR pointed out, the kid was almost cut during his RS season; there's no way he would've been afforded the time to completely remake his body and work on his game if he were at Nebraska. He put the time in, worked his a$$ off, and has become one of the best scorers in CBB; there's absolutely no way to say he would have done the same thing at Nebraska or Creighton. It's the worst type of revisionist history when it comes to sports.

He had 9 D1 offers... notables such as Wyoming, UNO, SDSU, and Air Force

The main knock on kids like this is athleticism, but people always forget about 'how good are you at basketball'

Having D-1 offers =/= being able to play at D-1 level. He would have washed out had he gone to a bigger school.

Impossible to say. I'm sure if Drew Ott played at NDSU instead of Iowa a lot of people would make the same argument that it wouldn't have worked out if he played in the B10

 

[spurs1990]

Well luckily for you all we will get to see what he can do in the tournament against a P5 school. I'd assume they are in the 14-16 range for a seed.

His team will more than likely lose, but if he can truly compete, he will put up decent numbers. Hooray for March Madness and the opportunities to see these guys on a big stage.

 

[seaofred92]

It's a pretty lazy assessment to watch him for 2-3 games and say "Oh, Nebraska missed on him big time". Well, so did Creighton, Omaha, Wyoming, Colorado, Colorado St. and every other Power 5 team. He simply wasn't a D-1 player coming out of HS. As BR pointed out, the kid was almost cut during his RS season; there's no way he would've been afforded the time to completely remake his body and work on his game if he were at Nebraska. He put the time in, worked his a$$ off, and has become one of the best scorers in CBB; there's absolutely no way to say he would have done the same thing at Nebraska or Creighton. It's the worst type of revisionist history when it comes to sports.

He had 9 D1 offers... notables such as Wyoming, UNO, SDSU, and Air Force

The main knock on kids like this is athleticism, but people always forget about 'how good are you at basketball'

Having D-1 offers =/= being able to play at D-1 level. He would have washed out had he gone to a bigger school.

Impossible to say. I'm sure if Drew Ott played at NDSU instead of Iowa a lot of people would make the same argument that it wouldn't have worked out if he played in the B10

1. Strawman argument.

2. You're talking about a completely different sport.

3. You're talking about someone who was actually offered a scholarship by a Big Ten institution. Ott also had a Kansas State football offer. Two P5 programs identified him as someone that could contribute as a P5 player. This thread is about Mike Daum, who chose between Wyoming, Air Force, and South Dakota State. Nobody in their right mind thought this kid was a P5 level player out of high school, and if he were at Nebraska or any other Big Ten institution right now he would be a backup role player at best because of his lack of athleticism on the defensive end. Stop digging yourself a hole trying to say this kid is a legit P5 level player. He's a nice story for SDSU and not much more than that.

 

[Cdog923]

Well luckily for you all we will get to see what he can do in the tournament against a P5 school. I'd assume they are in the 14-16 range for a seed.

His team will more than likely lose, but if he can truly compete, he will put up decent numbers. Hooray for March Madness and the opportunities to see these guys on a big stage.

I think he'll do well in the tournament; he's an incredibly tough match-up with range out of the gym on offense, but he does have some liability on D. Had Thurmond been a better free throw shooter, Omaha would have won last night.

My issue is with the false equivalency that he would be anywhere near the player he is today had he come to Nebraska.

 

[BIG ERN]

It's a pretty lazy assessment to watch him for 2-3 games and say "Oh, Nebraska missed on him big time". Well, so did Creighton, Omaha, Wyoming, Colorado, Colorado St. and every other Power 5 team. He simply wasn't a D-1 player coming out of HS. As BR pointed out, the kid was almost cut during his RS season; there's no way he would've been afforded the time to completely remake his body and work on his game if he were at Nebraska. He put the time in, worked his a$$ off, and has become one of the best scorers in CBB; there's absolutely no way to say he would have done the same thing at Nebraska or Creighton. It's the worst type of revisionist history when it comes to sports.

He had 9 D1 offers... notables such as Wyoming, UNO, SDSU, and Air Force

The main knock on kids like this is athleticism, but people always forget about 'how good are you at basketball'

Having D-1 offers =/= being able to play at D-1 level. He would have washed out had he gone to a bigger school.

Impossible to say. I'm sure if Drew Ott played at NDSU instead of Iowa a lot of people would make the same argument that it wouldn't have worked out if he played in the B10

1. Strawman argument.

2. You're talking about a completely different sport.

3. You're talking about someone who was actually offered a scholarship by a Big Ten institution. Ott also had a Kansas State football offer. Two P5 programs identified him as someone that could contribute as a P5 player. This thread is about Mike Daum, who chose between Wyoming, Air Force, and South Dakota State. Nobody in their right mind thought this kid was a P5 level player out of high school, and if he were at Nebraska or any other Big Ten institution right now he would be a backup role player at best because of his lack of athleticism on the defensive end. Stop digging yourself a hole trying to say this kid is a legit P5 level player. He's a nice story for SDSU and not much more than that.

Well, I'll just leave it at I disagree with you on the subject. Anyone at any program who can average over 25 ppg can start on the 2nd worst team in any P5 conference

 

[Cdog923]

It's a pretty lazy assessment to watch him for 2-3 games and say "Oh, Nebraska missed on him big time". Well, so did Creighton, Omaha, Wyoming, Colorado, Colorado St. and every other Power 5 team. He simply wasn't a D-1 player coming out of HS. As BR pointed out, the kid was almost cut during his RS season; there's no way he would've been afforded the time to completely remake his body and work on his game if he were at Nebraska. He put the time in, worked his a$$ off, and has become one of the best scorers in CBB; there's absolutely no way to say he would have done the same thing at Nebraska or Creighton. It's the worst type of revisionist history when it comes to sports.

He had 9 D1 offers... notables such as Wyoming, UNO, SDSU, and Air Force

The main knock on kids like this is athleticism, but people always forget about 'how good are you at basketball'

Having D-1 offers =/= being able to play at D-1 level. He would have washed out had he gone to a bigger school.

Impossible to say. I'm sure if Drew Ott played at NDSU instead of Iowa a lot of people would make the same argument that it wouldn't have worked out if he played in the B10

1. Strawman argument.

2. You're talking about a completely different sport.

3. You're talking about someone who was actually offered a scholarship by a Big Ten institution. Ott also had a Kansas State football offer. Two P5 programs identified him as someone that could contribute as a P5 player. This thread is about Mike Daum, who chose between Wyoming, Air Force, and South Dakota State. Nobody in their right mind thought this kid was a P5 level player out of high school, and if he were at Nebraska or any other Big Ten institution right now he would be a backup role player at best because of his lack of athleticism on the defensive end. Stop digging yourself a hole trying to say this kid is a legit P5 level player. He's a nice story for SDSU and not much more than that.

Well, I'll just leave it at I disagree with you on the subject. Anyone at any program who can average over 25 ppg can start on the 2nd worst team in any P5 conference

Now? Yes.

When he came out of HS, no.

 

[Mavric]

Well, I'll just leave it at I disagree with you on the subject. Anyone at any program who can average over 25 ppg can start on the 2nd worst team in any P5 conference

Yikes. Not great for whoever that coach is.

 

[mrandyk]

Daum's stats are a lot less impressive when you consider that his scoring average is inflated by taking half of his team's shots, he gets absolutely coddled by Summit League refs so he never gets in foul trouble and has a stupid number of trips to the free throw line, and has trouble scoring against any sort of athletic big man. He can score a ton against the Summit League (except maybe Tyler Flack at USD) but wouldn't be a standout player in the Big Ten at all. Watch him play against the big from a 1 seed and I bet you'll have a better idea why Miles passed.

 

[Mavric]

Great win for the Jacks but Daum's stat line isn't that impressive.

10 points on 4-11 shooting (1-3 on 3s), 3 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 4 turnovers.

 

[Warrior10]

Any chance he looks to grad transfer? I'd take him in a heartbeat.

 

[Mavric]

His offense would be good.

I'm not sure who he'd guard.

 

[BIG ERN]

If SDSU didn't go to the tournament 3 straight years I think he would think about it, but why would he when he knows they have a better shot than we do? Even though if we had him next year we could be S16 team. 

 

[ScottyIce]

His offense would be good.

I'm not sure who he'd guard.

I really don't know how he would fair against a defender like Roby...