*** 2019 Recruiting ***

Throw Dem Bones said:
With Benhart's commitment, and Wandale and Wright committing this week (N or out we will know), N will sit at 20 or 21. With 6-8 spots remaining where do we go from here? Obviously, Safety is a priority with Pola-Gates and Bell being the most likely options. Corner? Pass rush? OL still?

Also, with a large majority of our class locked in, do we have the possibility of going after a big fish like Owen Pappoe? I mean, Frost already beat Auburn once, why not beat them again and add another Grayson player to our GA pipeline... Or are there any other big names we should keep an eye on as early signing signing period approaches?
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I don't think Pappoe is changing his mind. As for corner, we are after Tavion Mayo and Jamel Starks. On the O-Line, We are likely taking a JUCO Tackle. We still need to get a pass rusher and maybe another Wide Receiver. 

 
I'm really liking what I see us having when the early signing day comes in December.

There's a chance we sign as many as 24-25 players with maybe 8+ being 4 star players.  We are at 19 players with 6 4 stars right now.  Add Wandale Robinson and Bell for two more.  We could get another few commits before then.

That lines up nicely for the staff to be able to focus the last couple months of recruiting on a few key players.

 
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For comparison.  Obviously the 19 class will change.

Per 247 Composite

Class Average Recruits (# 4*+)  

 02    .8316    18 (2)
 03    .8316    19 (2)
 04    .8331    20 (2)
 05*   .8589    31 (5)
 06*   .8592    22 (4)
 07*   .8587    26 (6)
 08    .8449    29 (3)
 09    .8580    19 (2)
 10*   .8642    20 (5)
 11    .8832    21 (9)
 12    .8791    17 (8)
 13    .8675    24 (7)
 14    .8495    25 (3)
 15    .8616    21 (4)
 16    .8686    21 (5)
 17    .8781    20 (6)

 18    .8768    24 (6)

 19    .8812    19 (6)

* 2005 - Leon Jackson isn't on 247's list but was a 4* on Rivals
* 2006 - Major Culbert doesn't show a rating on 247 but was a high 3* on Rivals
* 2007 - Armando Murillo (JUCO) not included in 247's list
* 2010 - Stanley Jean-Baptiste and Chase Harper (JUCOs) not included in 247's rankings
 
The Murphinator said:
I don't think Pappoe is changing his mind. As for corner, we are after Tavion Mayo and Jamel Starks. On the O-Line, We are likely taking a JUCO Tackle. We still need to get a pass rusher and maybe another Wide Receiver. 
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Some smoke Pappoe is leaning to Tenn.

Also sounds like we aren't overly concerned with getting a JUCO OT. Not saying we won't, but the report this morning was that it's not as high of a priority as some think. 

 
Mavric said:
For comparison.  Obviously the 19 class will change.

Per 247 Composite

Class Average Recruits (# 4*+)  

 02    .8316    18 (2)
 03    .8316    19 (2)
 04    .8331    20 (2)
 05*   .8589    31 (5)
 06*   .8592    22 (4)
 07*   .8587    26 (6)
 08    .8449    29 (3)
 09    .8580    19 (2)
 10*   .8642    20 (5)
 11    .8832    21 (9)
 12    .8791    17 (8)
 13    .8675    24 (7)
 14    .8495    25 (3)
 15    .8616    21 (4)
 16    .8686    21 (5)
 17    .8781    20 (6)

 18    .8768    24 (6)

 19    .8812    19 (6)

* 2005 - Leon Jackson isn't on 247's list but was a 4* on Rivals
* 2006 - Major Culbert doesn't show a rating on 247 but was a high 3* on Rivals
* 2007 - Armando Murillo (JUCO) not included in 247's list
* 2010 - Stanley Jean-Baptiste and Chase Harper (JUCOs) not included in 247's rankings
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There's a big difference between what's happening now in Lincoln and other classes on that list.

I think we could match or top the number of 4* players in the '11 class.  HOWEVER.....I hope, pray and expect this staff to get more out of them than previous staffs.  

We've talked about it a lot on this board.  Way too often the higher rated players in those classes, didn't amount you much or didn't make it to campus at all.

 
BigRedBuster said:
We've talked about it a lot on this board.  Way too often the higher rated players in those classes, didn't amount you much or didn't make it to campus at all.
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Totally agree.  However, there are a lot of other factors contributing to how well they do once they get here.  Obviously you hope you are getting guys who will develop into the players you hope they will be.  But player development is a separate - though related - issue from recruiting, imo.  

So I think comparing recruiting classes is fair.  And this class has the chance to be one of the top classes on that list in regards to how it is rated.  Which is awfully good considering they were at least a year behind recruiting most of these guys.

 
The Murphinator said:
I don't think Pappoe is changing his mind. As for corner, we are after Tavion Mayo and Jamel Starks. On the O-Line, We are likely taking a JUCO Tackle. We still need to get a pass rusher and maybe another Wide Receiver. 
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Word is JUCO OL is unlikely in this class now beyond what we already have.

 
Mavric said:
19 commits right now.  24 open spots plus however many over-signs.  I continue to see speculation that we'll sign 28-29.

Current Scholarships/Commits

QB - 1 - LUKE McCAFFREY
RB - 3 - RAHMIR JOHNSON, RONALD THOMPKINS,  JUCO DEDRICK MILLS
WR - 3-4 - JAMIE NANCE, DARIEN CHASE, Wandale Robinson
TE - 1 - CHRIS HICKMAN
OT - 3-4 - MATTHEW ANDERSON, MICHAEL LYNN, BRYCE BENHART, Dohnovan West
OG/C - 2 - JUCO DESMOND BLAND

NT - 1-2 - JUCO TONY FAIR
DE - 2-3 - ETHAN PIPER, MOSAI NEWSOM, Ty Robinson, Brant Banks
LB - 4-5 - GARRETT SNODGRASS, GARRETT NELSON, JACKSON HANNAH, NICK HENRICH
CB - 2 - QUINTON NEWSOME, Javin Wright, Tavian Mayo, Jarrad Baker, Nehemiah Pritchett
S - 2 - Jamel Starks, Noa Pola-Gates, Josh Sanguinetti, JUCO Markquese Bell

ATH - Zay Flowers

  
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I think we take the following.

2 WR

1 OT

2 DE

2 CB

2 S

1 OLB

So that is ten plus more if transfers occur. I can easily see this class getting to thirty. 

 
Mavric said:
Totally agree.  However, there are a lot of other factors contributing to how well they do once they get here.  Obviously you hope you are getting guys who will develop into the players you hope they will be.  But player development is a separate - though related - issue from recruiting, imo.  

So I think comparing recruiting classes is fair.  And this class has the chance to be one of the top classes on that list in regards to how it is rated.  Which is awfully good considering they were at least a year behind recruiting most of these guys.
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Well...Yes. Let's talk about what's already happened with 4 stars that are on the team or were on the team.

4 Stars Frost 2019:

Henrich:

Benhart:

McCaffrey:

Hickman:

Chase:

Bland:

4 Stars Frost Recruited 2018

Washington - Sure seems like he is going to pan out, gamechanging talent

Martinez- No words needed, gamechanger

Jurgens- Jury is out - moving positions

C. Jones - Jury is out - injured this year - saying the right things via twitter

Wildemann - Jury is out

Tannor- Is getting snaps - Jury is out 

4 stars from 2017 - Riley's Class

Lindsey- left

Roberts- left

Gebbia- left

McQuitty- Jury is out

Johnson- Left

4 stars from 2016- Riley's Class

Jackson- jury is out, but it sure seems like he is improving under Frost

Raridon- Jury is out

POB- left

Dismuke - Glimpses of being a solid player - jury is out

Farniok- Starting - Getting better it seems- jury is out

4 stars from 2015- Riley's Class post Bo

Lee- Jury is out - hasn't been much of a contributor

Barnett - done with football - major flop

Stevenson- left

Anderson- jury is out - appears to be a flop at the moment

4 stars from 2014- Pelini's Class

Farmer- Solid Player

Gates- Left Early for NFL - Solid Player (not coached by Frost)

Foster - Solid Player

 
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ScottyIce said:
Well...Yes. Let's talk about what's already happened with 4 stars that are on the team or were on the team.

4 Stars Frost Recruited:

Washington - Sure seems like he is going to pan out, gamechanging talent

Martinez- No words needed, gamechanger

Jurgens- Jury is out - moving positions

C. Jones - Jury is out - injured this year - saying the right things via twitter

Wildemann - Jury is out

Tannor- Is getting snaps - Jury is out 

4 stars from 2017 - Riley's Class

Lindsey- left

Roberts- left

Gebbia- left

McQuitty- Jury is out

Johnson- Left

4 stars from 2016- Riley's Class

Jackson- jury is out, but it sure seems like he is improving under Frost

Raridon- Jury is out

POB- left

Dismuke - Glimpses of being a solid player - jury is out

Farniok- Starting - Getting better it seems- jury is out

4 stars from 2015- Riley's Class post Bo

Lee- Jury is out - hasn't been much of a contributor

Barnett - done with football - major flop

Stevenson- left

Anderson- jury is out - appears to be a flop at the moment

4 stars from 2014- Pelini's Class

Farmer- Solid Player

Gates- Left Early for NFL - Solid Player (not coached by Frost)

Foster - Solid Player
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Didnt Gates put up like 12 bench reps at the combine. Imagine how good he could have been if he worked out. He pretty much got dominated by anyone who was any good on opposing teams.

 
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