2021 Winter Testing Numbers
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ColoradoHusk
Heisman Trophy Winner
Damian Jackson has old man strength on his side. That’s what enables him to do some well at performance testing.
James (we always called him Jay) Simms was also in his mid-20s when he was at NU. He was an interesting guy. Nobody knows where he grew up, went to high school, or how he ended up at NU. He was a really nice guy, and one of the best athletes I have seen in person.
James (we always called him Jay) Simms was also in his mid-20s when he was at NU. He was an interesting guy. Nobody knows where he grew up, went to high school, or how he ended up at NU. He was a really nice guy, and one of the best athletes I have seen in person.
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floridacorn
Five-Star Recruit
"Epley writes in his book that the indexing is on a 0-1,000 scale in which 500 points represents the Division I average and takes into account the weight of the athlete. "
I'm prob getting into the weeds w/this, but as an analyst this invites questions.
I'd be curious to know how they determine/acquire the data for the D1 averages? For example, there are notable programs that don't even test 40's, & I can't imagine all, if many S&C programs are all willing to share testing results with competition.
If these index scores are predicated on current D1 averages, it's not an apples to apples comparison of index scores from different years, let alone era's. You could theoretically be bigger, stronger, faster, & quicker than player X from the 90's, but so is the average athlete, so your score could still be lower. The value of such a comparison then would be how you compare to today's athlete versus how they compared to the athletes at the time of their testing. Seems like a static performance score similar to Sparq would be more relevant, at least in terms of direct comparisons/leader boards, ect...
Regardless, as alluded to above, if Damian Jackson has the extreme burst and short area quickness for a big man these tests suggest, it seems like he could be an effective pass rush specialist from the interior if nothing else.
I'm prob getting into the weeds w/this, but as an analyst this invites questions.
I'd be curious to know how they determine/acquire the data for the D1 averages? For example, there are notable programs that don't even test 40's, & I can't imagine all, if many S&C programs are all willing to share testing results with competition.
If these index scores are predicated on current D1 averages, it's not an apples to apples comparison of index scores from different years, let alone era's. You could theoretically be bigger, stronger, faster, & quicker than player X from the 90's, but so is the average athlete, so your score could still be lower. The value of such a comparison then would be how you compare to today's athlete versus how they compared to the athletes at the time of their testing. Seems like a static performance score similar to Sparq would be more relevant, at least in terms of direct comparisons/leader boards, ect...
Regardless, as alluded to above, if Damian Jackson has the extreme burst and short area quickness for a big man these tests suggest, it seems like he could be an effective pass rush specialist from the interior if nothing else.
MyBloodIsRed16
All-Conference
I vaguely remember Epley commenting on how many guys on Riley's roster were sub 500. Would be interesting to see how many are above that now
My guess is aggregating independent studies. There are a staggering number of ongoing small studies being done by strength coaches, asst strength coaches, kinesiology majors, pt folks, etc. They have been gathering data for decades. You might not know the exact details for a given athlete at a given school but being able to determine averages by height/weight/age is likely pretty standard at this point.
Savage Husker
All-Conference
The fact they are releasing results to the public is a positive step for the program. Transparency is good. Hopefully this drives more competition amongst each player or identifies those who need to move on.
WyoHusker56
Starter
So, do we tar and feather these seven or chase them out of town with pitchforks?
The_Fan_Man
Four-Star Recruit
Boyd Epley used the vert, agility, and ten to create his index score. There were a few numbers that they worked off of to evaluate team athleticism.
900: Walk-On that could contribute
1500: High-level contributors
1800: Pro-level athleticism
Our scores were pretty good this year.
To put this all in a bit of perspective, in 2016 our top five scorers were
900: Walk-On that could contribute
1500: High-level contributors
1800: Pro-level athleticism
Our scores were pretty good this year.
- Damian Jackson (2288)
- Cam Jurgens (2248)
- Deontai Williams (2043)
- Chris Kolarevic (2009)
- Cam Taylor-Britt (1797)
To put this all in a bit of perspective, in 2016 our top five scorers were
- Khalil Davis (1790)
- Zack Darlington (1740)
- Brad Simpson (1738)
- Luke McNitt (1702)
- Tanner Farmer (1667)
RedSavage
All-Conference
junior4949
All-American
How well did they know him? He was from Omaha. His girlfriend lived in the apartment across from mine one summer is how I got to know him. The one thing that always stood out to me was his size. He was listed as 6'1, but he was a bit taller than that. His speed is what always fascinated me. If memory serves me right, he was the fastest guy on the team. Most of the time, he found himself in TO's doghouse which probably explains his lack of playing time. He didn't take things very seriously which apparently didn't do him any favors with the coaches. I get that a lot of his carries were in garbage time, but he did average right around 7 yards a carry. If only we had a guy with his size and his speed on the current roster.
Toe
All-American
Man, I still wish we could've seen what a healthy & fully practice repped Darlington could do. Dude had a pretty good looking arm coming outta HS.
NUance
Assistant Coach
The_Fan_Man
Four-Star Recruit
Yes, they are the same measurements and captured with the same electronic tools to the best of my knowledge.
They didn't include the 40 yard dash in those 2016 measures. I imagine that Khalil Davis would have scored really, really well in that metric.
These are the old records from 1980-2003;
10 Yard (Points)
40 Yard (Points)
Pro Agility (Points)
Vertical (Points)
Performance Index Total
Hang Clean (Points)
Squat (Points)
Strength Index Total