Frost Stays

It's obvious that Alberts won't fire Frost after this season.

So, let's shift the discussion to this question: Do you believe Frost is actually capable of fixing the special teams and fundamentals problems? If he can, he's got a team that could potentially have winning seasons in 2022 & 2023.

But if he can't fix these core, systemic problems he will stay the course as a 5-7 dumpster fire embarrassment that nobody in this state is proud to call their team. That's where Scott has this program; we are legitimately so terrible that we're talking about having to make major improvements just to have a winning season.

Unreal.

 
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Another game, and another moral victory for the "unstoppables" as they are now dubbed.  If we can gather moral victories against Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Ohio State, will we make a bowl this year?

Coach Frost looks worn down and without answers at this stage.  The structural issues that are present with this team are simply too great for him to correct.  We are seemingly a program without a rudder, and one that simply does not know how to handle any success (in-game or season). 

As I have stated repeatedly, the only way Coach Frost is gone after this season is if he decides to depart.  He and his staff will get 5 years.  Let's be gracious and thank this staff for their contributions.  That said, let's also be honest and begin to think about the changes that may be coming in 14 months.  This experiment is running its' course.

 
I remember everyone saying look at PJ Fleck and Campbell (iowa state). Guys look it doesnt look good, but progress has been made. Our kicker is a head scratcher. But I say make some coaching moves (oline) get a special teams coach and infiltrate the transfer portal. Just dont sign the guy that quit during the game from Ohio State. 

 
Undone said:
It's obvious that Alberts won't fire Frost after this season.

So, let's shift the discussion to this question: Do you believe Frost is actually capable of fixing the special teams and fundamentals problems? If he can, he's got a team that could potentially have winning seasons in 2022 & 2023.

But if he can't fix these core, systemic problems he will stay the course as a 5-7 dumpster fire embarrassment that nobody in this state is proud to call their team. That's where Scott has this program; we are legitimately so terrible that we're talking about having to make major improvements just to have a winning season.

Unreal.
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you see his plan to fix the punt return game,  let the punt go untouched and let the other team down the ball.  we are paying $5 mil for this s#!t coaching?

fire him now.

 
I am one of the more optimistic guys on this forum.  I'm really encouraged by some of the improvements.  WE are bigger, faster, stronger, etc...  Our defense is kicking a$$ and taking names.  Love it!  

All of that said, Frost is here to produce wins.  It's a simple measure to evaluate at the end of the day.  I'm not in favor of changing coaches yet but i think that has to be considered if we don't make a bowl game this year.  

In the mean time, I hope everyone can support those kids on the team that are playing their tail off.  GBR

 
The most disappointing thing of the past two games is that our defense went toe to toe with the number 3 and 20 teams in the nation and outplayed them yet we lost both games. They say defense wins championships. We definitely have a solid defensive unit and an OK offense (not great by any means but OK). What is keeping us from winning are the special teams. Over the past three and a half years, here is a summary of what our special teams have done:

(1) every kick is a Hail Mary regardless if it is a simple 30 yarder or a point after. You hold your breath every time they kick

(2) no one can field the football and get any positive yards. Most of the time, they let the football roll for 20 yards because they have zero confidence to field it and if they end up fielding the football, it is either a disaster or it gets called back for a stupid penalty 

(3) our punting has been the worst in FBS. We have a better chance just going for it on very down.

(4) players on special teams look lost and disoriented as if they have no coaching what so ever.

If we had MSU’s punter, we win the game. Have you ever imagined that a punter would be the reason why we lose games? I am sure there is an outstanding FCS punter out there who would love a scholarship to come to Nebraska and play FBS football. How hard is it to fix the special teams after 4 years? At what point does Frost just focus on fixing this disaster called special teams? His pressers indicate that he believes the coaches are doing a good job but the players are not learning. This is like saying a teacher is doing great even though his students are failing year after year.

I do not want Frost gone but I want him to admit that coaching changes are needed to fix the special teams and OL.

 
Someone correct me if i am wrong on this but I remember that Frost was asked after his hiring aoubt special teams/kickers.

His answer is something that you look back on it says alot.

When asked about special teams and kickers he said he goes down to the other end of the field, that he knows nothing about it.

You look back at it now and it explains alot.

 
JoseyWales said:
Someone correct me if i am wrong on this but I remember that Frost was asked after his hiring aoubt special teams/kickers.

His answer is something that you look back on it says alot.

When asked about special teams and kickers he said he goes down to the other end of the field, that he knows nothing about it.

You look back at it now and it explains alot.
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I have absolutely no idea what you just said, but I agree.

 
River-runner said:
We have people who catch the ball and make yards after the catch.  Improvement. 

AM is getting the ball to receivers even without a great Oline.  Man can that kid scramble when the pocket collapses!  Improvement. 

We have people running to the ball or following the running back to block.  We used to see people stop running.  Improvement. 

The Oline is playing below par, but much, much better than before.  We are moving the ball on the ground and in the air.  Last night we made some holes.   Improvement.

I saw guys playing their hearts out and playing to the final whistle.  Big Frigging improvement.

You go ahead and support condemning / firing Frost.  We'll be worse off than before.  Support Frost, he is improving the Husker Brand.  

Remember Dude.  Frost started with NU being the "Kansas" or "Kansas State" of the Big 10.  How long did it take to turn K-State around in the old Big 8 or Big 12 days?
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AM is still missing his receivers high.  Still not going through his progressions to see WIDE OPEN receivers.  Still fumbling virtually every game.  Still making the bone-headed plays in critical  situations to lose us games.  Great scrambler, for sure.  But he's always had that. That's not improvement.

I'm pretty sure you're not watching the games at all if you think the offensive line is "much, much better".  Go back and watch some Ozigbo highlights if you honestly think our blocking is better now than it was 4 years ago.

Stop being dramatic with the "Frost took over the Kansas of the Big 10" revisionist history.  One 4-8 season with the worst QB and worst defensive coordinator in school history doesn't make us Kansas.  Having a losing record year after year, like Frost has done, makes us Kansas.

If we were truly improved we'd have a winning record.  At minimum we'd have a winning record against teams we out-recruit.   As it sits this year we're 2-2 against teams we out-recruit.  That's preposterous in year 4.  

I've never supported firing Frost, and I still don't think I support that, I want to see the season play out.  I just have a low tolerance for bulls#!t.  

 
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Toe said:
You obviously have a very different view of Alberts than I do. TBH, I pretty much expect Axe Man Alberts to hack things up no matter what happens...
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Dude got rid of football and the best Div2 wrestling program in the country, he will step on toes to do what he deems necessary and I'd bet the powers that hired him are good with that. I won't begin to presume what he thinks is necessary but IF he doesn't think Frost is the answer I do see the axe coming-down. 

 
Danimal said:
Dude got rid of football and the best Div2 wrestling program in the country, he will step on toes to do what he deems necessary and I'd bet the powers that hired him are good with that. I won't begin to presume what he thinks is necessary but IF he doesn't think Frost is the answer I do see the axe coming-down. 
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I see Trev stepping in before this season is completely lost. We lost two Top-25 games because of special teams. We have three games we’ll be heavily favored in, and at least two we have a 50/50 shot if we take corrective action now. There’s still a chance to salvage something special here…
 

…and I don’t think Trev wants to fire Scott, but if Scott pushes back on Trev and Trev isn’t allowed to dictate how to fix this particular issue…then Scott’s gone. 
 

Greg Austin—yeah, he should have been left in Norman. But he won’t be let go until the end of the season. But corrective action re: kickers and punters and special teams…yeah, that can be done NOW. 
 

Even if that means opening up tryouts on campus for a new kicker and punter. 
 

Preferably one that knows their left from their right.  

 
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The Dude said:
AM is still missing his receivers high.  Still not going through his progressions to see WIDE OPEN receivers.  Still fumbling virtually every game.  Still making the bone-headed plays in critical  situations to lose us games.  Great scrambler, for sure.  But he's always had that. That's not improvement.
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The past 2 games against our toughest competition he has thrown for over 500 yards at a 73% completion clip while being under immense pressure nearly the whole game. But he is just a great scrambler right? He is our whole offense 

 
Nebfanatic said:
The past 2 games against our toughest competition he has thrown for over 500 yards at a 73% completion clip while being under immense pressure nearly the whole game. But he is just a great scrambler right? He is our whole offense 
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And yet we only scored 16 and 20 in those 2 games.  Yards and completion % doesn't really matter, points scored does though. 

 
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