Who should our next HC be?

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JJ Husker said:
Because 3-9 is better than 9-3 with a ranked loss or two?

Yes, that is one of the reasons Pelini was fired. But, if you haven’t noticed, we haven’t been anywhere near winning 8 or 9 or 10 in a long time. Maybe we should try that before we worry about some ancient losses to ranked teams in different circumstances.
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I guess what I'm getting at is that his entire time at Baylor he went 0-11 against ranked teams in 3 years. I just want to be able to win some of the competitive games, and I'm not sure Rhule has shown he can. His ranked wins were 21. East Carolina & 20. Navy, for a total of 2-5 against ranked teams at Temple. His record was 2-16 or .125, so I was wrong on the total win percentage. 

This just isn't a sexy hire for me, and is underwhelming with where we are at as a program. I just want the best for us as fans, and for the team. 

 
YetiJR said:
I guess what I'm getting at is that his entire time at Baylor he went 0-11 against ranked teams in 3 years. I just want to be able to win some of the competitive games, and I'm not sure Rhule has shown he can. His ranked wins were 21. East Carolina & 20. Navy, for a total of 2-5 against ranked teams at Temple. His record was 2-16 or .125, so I was wrong on the total win percentage. 

This just isn't a sexy hire for me, and is underwhelming with where we are at as a program. I just want the best for us as fans, and for the team. 
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You aren't looking big picture. If you get lost in wins and losses and not pay attention to the details on how those wins and losses happened we cant help you. 

 
Rhule seems like a hire I could give a chance to. Better than some others. 

Honestly though I've kind of been swayed by the Neon Deion talk. Lord knows he'd recruit well. But I'm super curious about who he'd hire as coordinators/ position coaches. LOL I'd give it a 90% chance we'd end up with dline coach Suh. And maybe RB coach Ahman Green.

 
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YetiJR said:
I guess what I'm getting at is that his entire time at Baylor he went 0-11 against ranked teams in 3 years. I just want to be able to win some of the competitive games, and I'm not sure Rhule has shown he can. His ranked wins were 21. East Carolina & 20. Navy, for a total of 2-5 against ranked teams at Temple. His record was 2-16 or .125, so I was wrong on the total win percentage. 

This just isn't a sexy hire for me, and is underwhelming with where we are at as a program. I just want the best for us as fans, and for the team. 
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You are conflating "competitive games" with "ranked wins."  It isn't "ranked teams are good, everyone else is bad."

First, they did beat a ranked team.  Texas finished the year ranked.  Just because they didn't happen to be ranked the week that Baylor played them doesn't mean they were a bad team.

Second, a lot of why they didn't beat any ranked teams (at the time) is because they only played one team that was ranked when they played them.  They played Oklahoma - who finished as the #7 team in the country - twice, losing by three both times.  That seems like a pretty good accomplishment in year three.

Third, another reason they didn't have a chance to play many ranked teams was because they and Oklahoma was beating everyone.  The next tier in the Big XII was all solid but they kind of beat up on each other.  Kansas State was a solid 8-5 team that beat #5 Oklahoma and #23 Iowa State.  Oklahoma State was also 8-5 and beat #24 Kansas State and #23 Iowa State.  Texas was 8-5 that only lost to eventual-national-champion LSU by 7, beat #16 Kansas State and thumped #11 Utah.  Those are all pretty solid teams that Baylor beat, they just didn't happen to be ranked the week Baylor played them.

This entire argument is really missing the forest for the trees.

 
I have posted a link several times that shows what coaches have a winning record against ranked teams.  To summarize, very few.  To summarize more, a lot of the "winningest coaches when the article was written (2017 IIRC) hadn't beaten ranked teams.

 
Husker816 said:
When Frost was fired what were your personal expectations for the football program? Give me some details like philosophy, recruiting, etc.
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I didn't expect us to do much with recruiting. I figured we'd simplify the offense and defense and get a little more sound on the fundamentals. Identify who we have as players and play to those strengths. I guessed 5 or 6 wins overall. But obviously that's not happening at this point. 

 
Mavric said:
I have it on good authority that if he throws a single forward pass he will be fired on the spot.
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lo country said:
I have posted a link several times that shows what coaches have a winning record against ranked teams.  To summarize, very few.  To summarize more, a lot of the "winningest coaches when the article was written (2017 IIRC) hadn't beaten ranked teams.
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I'd be interested in seeing the article. I can see a lot of people disagree with my opinion, and that's okay, we all want to the best for the program. We'll have to see how the cards play, and see who ends up as the coach. 

 
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