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Crusader Husker
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teachercd
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Crusader Husker
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A a lot of kids did nothing. 49% didn't turn anything 20% never logged on. They lost like thousands of kids. They don't know where they went.
Guy Chamberlin
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Our principal told me privately that at least 50% of the students never logged into a remote class once.
Everyone was given a passing grade.
teachercd
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Yep, we were basically told to pass everyone, not even just pass them but just give them good grades.
Colleges started it, that Covid year was basically free admission to college. A certain husker WR only got into UNL because of covid.
ZRod
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That's so stupid. Flunk the kids. You'll never succeed in anything unless you have discipline and their are consequences for your bad choices to learn from.
Crusader Husker
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This is the basic problem of public education in certian areas. I am guessing mostly innercities, well basically any place where the economically challenged live. Poor rural areas also suffer. Suburban Public schools are really, really good.
I know that Cleveland and Akron schools went from bad to worse. Again, 18 months of not being in person. That is why the state of Ohio went to vouchers. I do beleive in school choice, but only when it includes open enrollment. The suburnban public schools have no stomach for open enrollment.
There was a backpack bill several years ago that was floated around. All state money follows the kid no matter where they go. No chance that was happening.
I am a small goverment guy. My tune changes with education. We have to do education differently in poor areas.
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teachercd
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So in most states there is not really "flunking" anymore.
A lot of schools have gone away from a 0. So that your lowest score will just be a "high F", which means you can save your grade.
No Child Left Behind Act basically became "the kid goes to the next grade no matter what" act.
Also, parents can simply sign a waiver that passes their kid to the next grade level.
Now, that doesn't mean that all kids graduate, it just means that they are going to "move on" if that makes sense. It really comes down to how the parents want to do it.
I had a kid, years ago, country kid, dude was failing my class and he needed the credit to graduate, he was a senior. He asked if he could do extra credit to pass so I had him write a paper, it was horrible, he was not a good student but he was a great kid. I asked him what his plans were after HS and he said he had a job lined up at his cousins ranch, working with horses and stuff like that, he was so excited about it. He asked me if he "passed" and I just nodded and told him he did and wished him good luck at the ranch.
teachercd
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Open enrollment is, in theory, a great idea.
For it to really work you need 3/4 of the school to have "good kids" at least. "Bad kids", when they are in a building with a lot of good kids, tend to behave much better.
Open enrollment also ruins (or can) HS sports.
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Guy Chamberlin
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We have one kid who could flip a switch and get everything done at A level, including Advanced Placement courses. She earned her way into a good college on merit.
We have another kid who struggled from middle school on, with ADHD and executive function issues, who was absolutely crippled by math, and who would do just enough to graduate high school without ever taking the SATs or making a single college visit or application. We were torn by the COVID year decision to give everyone a passing grade without requiring any effort: pretty much the opposite of what we'd been teaching him. Although wow, he really could use the break.
We then gave him zero academic pressure. He got a full time job at a hardware store for half a year, then decided to go to community college in Santa Barbara. He just told me this week that half of his motivation was to get the socializing he had missed during remote learning, and probably well before that.
It took awhile, including an extra semester and a bit of tutoring, but he graduated SBCC with a 3.2 and was accepted at 6 of the 7 colleges he applied for, including two University of California's that he never would have gotten into three years ago. He did that on merit, too, but he could easily have been written off and unsupported and we might never have known what he could do. There's a movement to promote and facilitate the community college route (which saves parents tens of thousands of dollars) as well removing the stigma around vocational careers. May not look it, but things may be moving in the right direction.
We have another kid who struggled from middle school on, with ADHD and executive function issues, who was absolutely crippled by math, and who would do just enough to graduate high school without ever taking the SATs or making a single college visit or application. We were torn by the COVID year decision to give everyone a passing grade without requiring any effort: pretty much the opposite of what we'd been teaching him. Although wow, he really could use the break.
We then gave him zero academic pressure. He got a full time job at a hardware store for half a year, then decided to go to community college in Santa Barbara. He just told me this week that half of his motivation was to get the socializing he had missed during remote learning, and probably well before that.
It took awhile, including an extra semester and a bit of tutoring, but he graduated SBCC with a 3.2 and was accepted at 6 of the 7 colleges he applied for, including two University of California's that he never would have gotten into three years ago. He did that on merit, too, but he could easily have been written off and unsupported and we might never have known what he could do. There's a movement to promote and facilitate the community college route (which saves parents tens of thousands of dollars) as well removing the stigma around vocational careers. May not look it, but things may be moving in the right direction.
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teachercd
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Uggg, MATH!
I dropped it twice at UNL and it was the very last class I needed to complete. I took it at a CC and never worked soooo hard to do well in a class and managed to pass.
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BigRedBuster
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I wanted her to run a long time ago. I wanted her against Hillary. One of the smartest people in politics. But, MAGA would never support her…..so we get the Felon.
Archy1221
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She might have won in 2016. The rest of that crowd was not so great in relating to the voters.