Should we fire Satterfield??

Mavric said:
No.  We run a lot of different concepts.

To your first point, as @ZRod said, there are a lot of short routes available.  Against Ohio State, there was at least one short/quick option available on basically every play.  Raiola just won't throw them, even when they are the primary look.
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He was at the beginning of the year, so what's different now?

 
gossamorharpy said:
Theres a lot of reasons as to what’s broken boys- no right answer. To me, our offense is going to continue to look like a broken uphill climb until we have a sufficient running attack.  No offense and tweak is going to fix constant 2nd and longs. Any passing concept can get snuffed out if a defense can just drop 7-8 in coverage on known passing plays. Our redzone efficiency is in the s#!tter, partly cause of the fg issues early on but more so the fact we can’t move s#!t on the ground

dylan is a true freshman qb, we knew there would be growing pains regardless of his recruiting ranking. We’ve done him and this team a complete disservice by putting this whole offense on his shoulders with no complimentary rushing attack to speak of
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Agreed, but Satterfield is doing him no favors.  I'd like to be a fly in the coach's offices.

 
Waldo said:
Have you ever tried to fire your friends or family? It’s tougher than you think. I mean, Rhule could lose a longterm friendship with Mr. McGuire. 
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It’s why you need to be careful either hiring a friend, lending them significant amount of money, or selling them something of import.  It could change dynamics. 
 

On the other side, I suspect Matt did not believe, in any scenario, we’d be at this point season 2. 
 

For me, I’ve looked at employment releases as not just a benefit for a business or program, but one that also benefits the person being fired. I’m not doing you a favor by keeping you in a role you’re under performant in. 

 
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Mavric said:
Another thing that seems to be a problem lately.  Raiola is bailing out before he needs to.

We pick up the blitz pretty well.  Protection is good.  But he just starts running around.  He is just panicing.
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Thank you for posting this, the line has taken a lot of heat, but IMO they've done a decent job for much of the year. Considering the injuries to two of their most experienced players early on, they've held up pretty well.

There were a few instances on Saturday where Dylan got anxious and scrambled himself into trouble. I believe a big part of this could be solved with a dedicated running game. As @gossamorharpy pointed out, our dedication to the running game has faltered mid-year after a strong start to the season. I was/am hopeful that the second half of the UCLA game will be a guiding light for the rest of the season on that front. Although 2-4 yard runs rarely make the highlight tape, they wear on a defense. Previously, Rhule has mentioned first half 2-3 yard gains turning into 6-10+ yard runs in the second half. Seems like that thought process was disconnected with the playcalling lately. 

Getting away from that running game and relying on Dylan's arm to make plays is not a good solution at this point in his career. I think he's essentially thinking homerun most times instead of churning first downs and taking what the defense gives up. Some of that should be justifiably be put on Satt, but some of the blame is also on Dylan's learning curve. Several times Dylan was checking to audibles where it almost seemed as though he was hit with paralysis by analysis. While I think mid-year firings don't usually solve much, I would not be opposed to Rhule having more of a hand in play selection.

 
gossamorharpy said:
Makes total sense, I played safety for a D2 team for 2 years and this is why I always loved to put a qb on his back side, even if it drew the flag ;)
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Absolutely this.   Even in the NFL, the more pressure a QB sees and the more dirt/ turf stains on the jersey, the worse he tends to play in both throws and decision making.  

 
gossamorharpy said:
dylan is a true freshman qb, we knew there would be growing pains regardless of his recruiting ranking. We’ve done him and this team a complete disservice by putting this whole offense on his shoulders with no complimentary rushing attack to speak of
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Yep, and a passing attack that gives him more set and throw single reads (no not the WR screens) in with the slow developing read plays.   

 
Mavric said:
Another thing that seems to be a problem lately.  Raiola is bailing out before he needs to.

We pick up the blitz pretty well.  Protection is good.  But he just starts running around.  He is just panicing.
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He played with a lot of poise early.  He's definitely seeing ghosts.  

 
Husker in WI said:
But that pick-six is the most alarming to me regarding Thomas/Satt - you have the entire half to draw that play up and coach him on what is going to happen, and Raiola still doesn't take the wide open primary read seam route when it was there. As a random play in a game, you can put a misread on Raiola. Coming out of the half that's on the coaches. That had to be drawn up having a good idea of what the defense would do. Fine playcall, but if there's any play where you can convince the QB to just trust what is there and take the shot that's called, it's the first play of a half when you have more than ~20 seconds to talk to him about it.
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There's that, and I also wonder what conclusions the coaches have drawn about what our ideal strategy should be after looking at film of our 8 games heading into the UCLA tilt.

I do show that UCLA ranked in the top 15 for rushing defense heading into last Saturday - something that I admit takes some wind out of my sails for the argument that we should have tried to be more run-heavy in the first half and to do it with a mix of of rushing looks. And then after our game they rank 109th in passing defense. So I get it, the coaches seemed to think that throwing on early downs was the better strategy.

But I also felt like we could have figured out after the Indiana game that we're not effective on 1st & 2nd downs being in the shotgun with no tight end in the H-back position. Dowdell has sucked running out of that formation and we'd been struggling to setup 3rd & short situations, IMO, and Raiola hadn't exactly been lighting it up with the slow developing pass route plays.

It was only 13-7 to start the second half. So I'm still frustrated that our staff didn't want to at least try to establish the power run early in that drive.

I know it sounds like hindsight analysis. But it was like the stuff we were doing for the first 2.25 quarters was playing as if we were down by 21 points. It just didn't seem like our game.

 
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floridacorn said:
He played with a lot of poise early.  He's definitely seeing ghosts.  
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I agree with part of this but if you go back and watch the first few games against utsa and n Iowa, there were quite a few instances where his throws should’ve been picked and they were either dropped or we simply had the better athlete. 
 

I don’t think it’s a coincidence at all his stats dropped tremendously the second we kicked off conference play. 
 

he’s a freshman, these struggles are to be expected, it’s just a shame that for whatever reason our game plan is to expect perfection out of a true freshman and not doing anything in the run game to buoy his efforts 

 
soup said:
Those of us that are in high profile leadership roles understand exactly what is happening here.  He is owning the problem, bringing in help to take the emotion out of it, and determining the next steps.  
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I'm the President of Me, and I also understand what is happening here.

The emotion in play is, in fact, panic, and the coaching staff has no choice but to own it.

Let me know if I can help fix your organization.  

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
I'm the President of Me, and I also understand what is happening here.

The emotion in play is, in fact, panic, and the coaching staff has no choice but to own it.

Let me know if I can help fix your organization.  
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Naw man, you and I and the rest of us common folk will never understand what’s going on- not like soup who is in a high profile leadership position. There are concepts they’re cooking up that is simply over our heads 

 
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