The Environment

teachercd said:
Out of all the big "issues" over the last, say, 50 years or so...I feel like only Y2K was handled "normally" by most people.  

I don't remember a ton of people losing their mind over Y2K, I am sure there were some bunker bros that were thrilled that "the world was going to end" but it was few and far between, from what I remember.  
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I'm not one to say the world is ending because of global warming, the world will be fine. People will need to adapt to it, and will need to relocate, some things will die off, new things will come in, as it has for millions of years. But to say it doesn't exist, or it's a sham, that's just sticking your head in the sand.

Will it be as bad as Al Gore predicated? Clearly not.

Is it real? Yes.

Can we (people) "fix it"?  Probably not, and who knows the ripple that will happen by mining all the materials to switch to new forms of energy. 

What I will say, is we should be better stewards of the environment. Not because of global warming, but because I want my kids/grandkids to swim in streams and lakes and not worry what chemicals the plant upstream has dumped into the water. I do want my kids to SCUBA in the oceans and not see marine life trapped in waste and barrier reefs dying. I do want my grandkids to go walking or hiking and not have to bring a giant trash bag to collect all the litter or have to actively avoid all the trash. For those that enjoy hunting, I want them to be able to get their animal, one that's healthy to eat. If these little changes in any way help global warming, great, but I want to focus on leaving it better than I found it. And at the rate humans are going, not sure how feasible that will be in the upcoming decades.

 
Madcows said:
I'm not one to say the world is ending because of global warming, the world will be fine. People will need to adapt to it, and will need to relocate, some things will die off, new things will come in, as it has for millions of years. But to say it doesn't exist, or it's a sham, that's just sticking your head in the sand.

Will it be as bad as Al Gore predicated? Clearly not.

Is it real? Yes.

Can we (people) "fix it"?  Probably not, and who knows the ripple that will happen by mining all the materials to switch to new forms of energy. 

What I will say, is we should be better stewards of the environment. Not because of global warming, but because I want my kids/grandkids to swim in streams and lakes and not worry what chemicals the plant upstream has dumped into the water. I do want my kids to SCUBA in the oceans and not see marine life trapped in waste and barrier reefs dying. I do want my grandkids to go walking or hiking and not have to bring a giant trash bag to collect all the litter or have to actively avoid all the trash. For those that enjoy hunting, I want them to be able to get their animal, one that's healthy to eat. If these little changes in any way help global warming, great, but I want to focus on leaving it better than I found it. And at the rate humans are going, not sure how feasible that will be in the upcoming decades.
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Hmmmmmmmm……you’ve basically reiterated what I have been saying in this thread for a some time now, yet felt the need to snark it up earlier because you couldn’t understand any sarcasm.  :dunno
 

To re-iterate……I’ve always said the climate changes and humans probably have some small effect on that change.  The globe will continue to adapt to humans and humans will continue to adapt to the globe up until there is an extinction level event (see asteroid hitting Earth, mass volcanic activity…) 

Everyone here wants clean air and clean water and no trash on the sides of the roads or on the beaches and yes we should be good stewards of our environment.   People who throw trash out their car window are a$$h@!es.   Companies that willingly and knowingly (no I’m not talking about accidents they help clean up) pollute our rivers and lakes don’t deserve our business. 
 

But that doesn't mean we need to believe the nonsense coming out of the enviro-bros mouth stating we have 12 years left, 25 years left or at least the smart ones go with 70-100 years left because they will be dead and gone before proven wrong.  

 
Archy1221 said:
Hmmmmmmmm……you’ve basically reiterated what I have been saying in this thread for a some time now, yet felt the need to snark it up earlier because you couldn’t understand any sarcasm.  :dunno
 

To re-iterate……I’ve always said the climate changes and humans probably have some small effect on that change.  The globe will continue to adapt to humans and humans will continue to adapt to the globe up until there is an extinction level event (see asteroid hitting Earth, mass volcanic activity…) 

Everyone here wants clean air and clean water and no trash on the sides of the roads or on the beaches and yes we should be good stewards of our environment.   People who throw trash out their car window are a$$h@!es.   Companies that willingly and knowingly (no I’m not talking about accidents they help clean up) pollute our rivers and lakes don’t deserve our business. 
 

But that doesn't mean we need to believe the nonsense coming out of the enviro-bros mouth stating we have 12 years left, 25 years left or at least the smart ones go with 70-100 years left because they will be dead and gone before proven wrong.  
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Forgive for not reading 120ish previous pages to sense your snark on this post.

 
teachercd said:
Out of all the big "issues" over the last, say, 50 years or so...I feel like only Y2K was handled "normally" by most people.  

I don't remember a ton of people losing their mind over Y2K, I am sure there were some bunker bros that were thrilled that "the world was going to end" but it was few and far between, from what I remember.  
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I presume you weren't in any way connected to tech in late 1999?

 
Loe Doesnt Know said:
here's to hoping DJT pulls out in the first week of office. use those dollars to secure our boarder, send illegals packing and drill baby drill!!!!
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The US is currently producing more oil than it ever has in history. We are producing more energy than any country in history. Gas is under $3 per gallon and we are a net exporter of oil. In 2019, when Trump was in office and before anyone knew anything about Covid, oil drilling started decreasing in the US. Shortly after Biden taking office, oil drilling was back to pre Covid levels….the same level it was at under Trump. 
 

So, please explain the “drill baby drill”?

 
BigRedBuster said:
The US is currently producing more oil than it ever has in history. We are producing more energy than any country in history. Gas is under $3 per gallon and we are a net exporter of oil. In 2019, when Trump was in office and before anyone knew anything about Covid, oil drilling started decreasing in the US. Shortly after Biden taking office, oil drilling was back to pre Covid levels….the same level it was at under Trump. 
 

So, please explain the “drill baby drill”?
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Again, another leftist post without any links. Show me where you got your info from.

 
Loe Doesnt Know said:
Again, another leftist post without any links. Show me where you got your info from.
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LOL....Dude, I posted to you trying to have a conversation and you shoot back with, what you are considering, an insult.  You claim you want to have intelligent conversations and you go against that with every post you write.

BigRedBuster said:
The US is currently producing more oil than it ever has in history.
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https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/leafhandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpus2&f=m

BigRedBuster said:
We are producing more energy than any country in history.
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https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=62407

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61545

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/US-Remains-King-of-Oil-Output-Crown-for-Sixth-Year.html

BigRedBuster said:
Gas is under $3 per gallon and we are a net exporter of oil.
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https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/imports-and-exports.php

https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=NE

BigRedBuster said:
when Trump was in office and before anyone knew anything about Covid, oil drilling started decreasing in the US.
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/965763/number-of-oil-and-gas-wells-drilled-in-the-united-states/

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/total-rigs

So, if by "leftist post" you mean factual....well.....



 
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