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100% unnecessary self-inflicted wound. There is zero economic logic in anything he's doing. 

The goal has to be to piss people off enough to have mass protests, at which point he declares martial law, suspends habeus corpus, and declares himself dictator for life. 


Economy shrinking, stock market sliding


The U.S. economy contracted early this year as businesses imported a massive trove of goods before President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs took effect, widening the trade deficit and curtailing growth.

U.S. gross domestic product, the value of all goods and services, shrank at an 0.3% annual rate in the first three months of the year, down from a 2.4% increase at the end of last year. Stocks slid early Wednesday on the news.

"A period of stagnation now likely lies ahead if the current set of tariffs is maintained, with recession the most likely outcome if the additional reciprocal tariffs are imposed in full in July," Pantheon Macroeconomics wrote in a note to clients. Trump's sweeping levies on dozens of nations were paused for 90 days to allow for negotiations.

Stocks are trading lower Wednesday morning as investors react to a spate of negative economic news and trade war comments from earnings releases.

The blue-chip Dow was 1.4% lower, giving up 569 points to trade near 39,958, while the broad S&P 500 fell 1.7%, losing 92 points to about 5,469. The tech-heavy Nasdaq slid 2.1%, down 64 points near 17,096 at midmorning. The 10-year U.S. Treasury note was unchanged at 4.171%, but the VIX, which is often known as Wall Street's "fear gauge," surged 15%.

 
The nation’s gross domestic product, the value of all goods and services produced in the U.S., shrank at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 0.3% in the January-to-March period, the Commerce Department said Wednesday. That’s down from a 2.4% increase in the third quarter and a 2.8% advance for all of 2024.
 
100% unnecessary self-inflicted wound.

:yeah Exactly.    He creates a crisis of his own making and of course he blames Biden.   



 https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/30/trump-gdp-tariffs-biden-overhang.html


Trump blames Biden after GDP shrinks in first quarter, says growth will ‘take a while’


  • President Donald Trump blamed former President Joe Biden and defended his sweeping tariff plans after new data showed the U.S. economy contracting last quarter.
  • Trump cautioned that his promised economic “boom” will “take a while,” telling people to “BE PATIENT!!!”
  • Other data showed private payrolls rose by just 62,000 in April, far below expectations.
  • Trump’s claim that the negative GDP and subsequent market declines were a result of Biden’s policies is inaccurate.


The goal has to be to piss people off enough to have mass protests, at which point he declares martial law, suspends habeus corpus, and declares himself dictator for life.
NOT ONE BIT UNREALISTIC!  With his messiah complex, plus his desire to escape the 34 felony convictions, and enabled by a congress willing to hold his water - dictator for life could become his new title before the 2028 election.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trumps-new-order-sparks-martial-law-concerns/ar-AA1DR5HY

 
.  It’s not discounting one to try and focus on another👍  It’s saying “both” statements were dumb so they “both” must be morons if the poster is correct.  
Yeah, well, nice try but these things are not nearly the same.  In one case the inflation was caused by a worldwide pandemic. Hardly Biden’s or Trump’s fault although they dealt with it differently, one of them much better than the other. But, in the current case, inflation and the falling stock market are directly and solely due to Trump’s actions.

I’d be ashamed to even attempt trying to whataboutism or compare the two scenarios. Fail.

 
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Oh, so not Trumps inflation like Joe said.  
 

Yeah, I said as much too 

I felt ashamed for taking my precious time reading your post.  
So you want to haggle over if it was “Trump’s” inflation or simply “pre-existing” inflation? Okay. I’ll give you that Joe was wrong to blame it on Trump. It was simply pre-existing aka not caused by Joe.

But you tried to whataboutism it with what is currently happening, Trump blaming current market conditions on Biden when it has been caused completely and inarguably by Trump actions and policies. One case is politics as usual while the other is just blatant disregard of the facts. But don’t worry, you don’t need to feel shame for attempting the comparison. The rest of us will pick up the slack for you.

 
Yeah, well, nice try but these things are not nearly the same.  In one case the inflation was caused by a worldwide pandemic. Hardly Biden’s or Trump’s fault although they dealt with it differently, one of them much better than the other. But, in the current case, inflation and the falling stock market are directly and solely due to Trump’s actions.

I’d be ashamed to even attempt trying to whataboutism or compare the two scenarios. Fail.
Yeah, I agree, but remind myself... what else is he supposed to do? He's voted for the guy twice and supports the party that enables him, despite being being told that it is a stupid idea to do so. 

So now his options are: 

1. Hold up a mirror, look himself in the face, and admit that Trump has turned the Republican Party into a grift to use conservative voters to enable his corrupt ambitions

2. Admit nothing and regurgitate party line nonsense. 

Voters will always go work option 2. It's why Republican are hopeless.

 
Yeah, I agree, but remind myself... what else is he supposed to do? He's voted for the guy twice and supports the party that enables him, despite being being told that it is a stupid idea to do so. 

So now his options are: 

1. Hold up a mirror, look himself in the face, and admit that Trump has turned the Republican Party into a grift to use conservative voters to enable his corrupt ambitions

2. Admit nothing and regurgitate party line nonsense. 

Voters will always go work option 2. It's why Republican are hopeless.
Bro, I’m agreeing with you🤷‍♂️  We aren’t like the rest.  We both know the statements were moronic therefore we elected two morons.   We are on the same team here, and same page thinking it’s silly for Trump to blame Biden 3 months into his administration for the S&P’s performance and Biden blaming Trump 1 1/2 YEARS into his administration for inflation.  Of which we know got much worse AFTER the spending packages were passed.  
 

It’s silly that other people can’t see what you and I agree to see.  P.S., I know you are just trying to save a little face with your post to the crowd.  I think yours and my original points were just fine though.  No need to cater to them. 

 
Not too big of a deal to make a point on, but personally I don't see anything about Trump in these remarks. 

"Do I take any blame for inflation? No," Biden told reporters.

"Why not?" Biden was asked in return.

"Because it was already there when I got here, man. Remember what the economy was like when I got here? Jobs were hemorrhaging. Inflation was rising. We weren't manufacturing a damn thing here. We were in real economic difficulty. That's why I don't."

It's not a particularly revolutionary idea to think that sometimes things happen and exist without an exact source of blame. Acknowledging the existence of something being characterized as blaming someone for it is just that, a characterization. 

 
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