Rhule finally feels like the "right coach" for Nebraska

Mavric said:
There was improvement from the 50,000-foot view of only looking at the win-loss record. I'm not all that convinced that there was any improvement as far as having a better football team.
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That’s somewhat fair. But, with the improvement in wins and losses, I feel the staff deserved at least another year to see if they could improve more from the momentum they were building in recruiting. Either fire Frank before he made the changes, or give them at least two years.
 
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BigRedBuster said:
That’s somewhat fair. But, with the improvement in wins and losses, I feel the staff deserved at least another year to see if they could improve more from the momentum they were building in recruiting. Either fire Frank before he made the changes, or give them at least two years.
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To me, it is weird to sort of push a guy to fire some of his staff, let him hire new guys, improve a bit, then fire that head coach.


NOW, if you had a star in the waiting, like Urban Meyer or something like that I could see where it makes sense. But when Solich was canned it was clear that there was not a plan in place.
 
BigRedBuster said:
That’s somewhat fair. But, with the improvement in wins and losses, I feel the staff deserved at least another year to see if they could improve more from the momentum they were building in recruiting. Either fire Frank before he made the changes, or give them at least two years.
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That's fair. I think it was probably obvious after the previous year that it wasn't going to work. The biggest issue was he tried to be Tom. Frank was a terrible OC but that's what Tom did so that's what Frank did. If he would have just been the HC and got a legit OC, maybe things would have been different. I could literally sit (stand) in the stands and correctly predict a good portion of what play was about to be run based on the formation we lined up in.

I'm not really sure about the "recruiting momentum." Maybe there were some decommits after he was fired. But the 2003 class had some good players but wasn't exactly loaded. The 2004 class had Ganz but not a ton after him.
 
BigRedBuster said:
That’s somewhat fair. But, with the improvement in wins and losses, I feel the staff deserved at least another year to see if they could improve more from the momentum they were building in recruiting. Either fire Frank before he made the changes, or give them at least two years.
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My thought was always that the timing and the way that it happened did Frank dirty, but it was also inevitable. He'd earned another year in my book, but the writing was on the wall with his recruiting having taken a big nose dive and his inability to adapt to the modern times.

Unrelated, both Solich and Pelini being fired were less egregious mistakes than doing so without a sensible and/or aggressive plan in place for who's next.
 
Lorewarn said:
My thought was always that the timing and the way that it happened did Frank dirty, but it was also inevitable. He'd earned another year in my book, but the writing was on the wall with his recruiting having taken a big nose dive and his inability to adapt to the modern times.

Unrelated, both Solich and Pelini being fired were less egregious mistakes than doing so without a sensible and/or aggressive plan in place for who's next.
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There was ZERO plan in place.
 
Mavric said:
That's fair. I think it was probably obvious after the previous year that it wasn't going to work. The biggest issue was he tried to be Tom. Frank was a terrible OC but that's what Tom did so that's what Frank did. If he would have just been the HC and got a legit OC, maybe things would have been different. I could literally sit (stand) in the stands and correctly predict a good portion of what play was about to be run based on the formation we lined up in.

I'm not really sure about the "recruiting momentum." Maybe there were some decommits after he was fired. But the 2003 class had some good players but wasn't exactly loaded. The 2004 class had Ganz but not a ton after him.
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If my memory serves me correctly, we had a group of recruits from Florida that had committed that were, supposedly, an improvement from what we had been getting. When the staff was let go, they all went somewhere else.

The lack of recruiting was directly tied to the old staff Frank was forced to keep. They were too old to hit the road like they needed to. No longer were recruits coming here to play for the legend TO.
 
Mavric said:
That's fair. I think it was probably obvious after the previous year that it wasn't going to work. The biggest issue was he tried to be Tom. Frank was a terrible OC but that's what Tom did so that's what Frank did. If he would have just been the HC and got a legit OC, maybe things would have been different. I could literally sit (stand) in the stands and correctly predict a good portion of what play was about to be run based on the formation we lined up in.

I'm not really sure about the "recruiting momentum." Maybe there were some decommits after he was fired. But the 2003 class had some good players but wasn't exactly loaded. The 2004 class had Ganz but not a ton after him.
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Ganz committed to Callahan. Solich's top QB targets were Allen Evridge and D.T. McDowell. LOL oh boy :[

It is fair to say, as has been already, that Osborne's assistants were reaching a point where they struggled to keep up on the recruiting trail due to age. Not a knock, just how it goes. The problem though, is that Solich was not a great closer, opting to pull out a scrapbook of the glory days instead of selling the future of the program and his "vision".
 
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Lorewarn said:
My thought was always that the timing and the way that it happened did Frank dirty, but it was also inevitable. He'd earned another year in my book, but the writing was on the wall with his recruiting having taken a big nose dive and his inability to adapt to the modern times.

Unrelated, both Solich and Pelini being fired were less egregious mistakes than doing so without a sensible and/or aggressive plan in place for who's next.
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I think we were still operating under the “ we’re Nebraska- we can have whatever we want” memorandum. We were really quite full of ourselves weren’t we?

We have been humbled
 
I think there’s a lot of revisionist history thinking about previous coaches. I think of them like Russian Nesting Dolls. Each worst then the last.
 
BigRedBuster said:
That’s somewhat fair. But, with the improvement in wins and losses, I feel the staff deserved at least another year to see if they could improve more from the momentum they were building in recruiting. Either fire Frank before he made the changes, or give them at least two years.
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Yeah it made no sense.

"You need to make these changes for the team to improve".

*Makes the changes and the team improves*

"You're fired anyway".

*Goes on to have hall of fame coaching career*
 
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