I wish Bo Pelini was black!

[NPhusker]

Why does everything have to come back to race. My grandfather is pretty racist but i have no problem with any race, but seriously why does this have to be such and issue. I mean most of this country is no longer racist against blacks or mexicans it is becoming more and more racist against white people.

Some people will probably say that i am racist because of this, but can someone tell me why cracker is just an accepted word, but as soon as someone says ******, then everyone just freaks out, and its not like i have a use for the "N" word so i could care less whether people use it or not, but why is it ok for one and not ok for the other.

Another thing is the Don Imus thing, I do not agree with this mans statements at all. You should never talk about women like that, and i dont care if they are black, white, hispanic, korean, or whatever, Imus should have enough respect for women in generall that he doesnt say those things (especially when those girls from that Rutgers team could probably kick his ace). But instead of people coming out and punishing him for being disrespectfull to women, they have to turn it into a racial thing. I guarentee you if Imus were to call the Nebraska Volleyball team a bunch of redkneck farmers, it wouldnt even make the news paper outside of Nebraska.

So the BCA has to complain because there are not enough black head coaches out there. This is probably true because 6 out of 119 is not a good number but i would like to know percentage of black coaches there are as assistants or black coaches of D-II or D-III schools. The BCA wants there to be more black head coaches in college football, but how many black coaches out there are qualified for a D-I heah coaching job at a place like NU or Texas A&M.

You never heared the BCA complain when the UNO job came open and a white coach was hired, but as soon as A&M doesnt interview a minority they get their panties up in a bunch. If they want more black coaches to be considered they need to start at the bottom and work their way up. They want to chance to be the top dog without even putting any work in, before you get a chance at a job like NU or A&M you need to work your way up.

So for me to repect the BCA they need to start petitioning to get some black coaches at some small schools or more as assistants so they can work their way up and not simply complain that when the top programs dont give minorities a chance cause i dont even know how many black coaches out there deserve a chance at a place like A&M.

*edit: This board jsut proved my point, i typed in the actual N word and when i posted, it was censored as ******, but no one has any problem with the word cracker or redkneck.

It's a word that is far, far more offensive and comes out of slavery and a very terrible racist past that resulted in a lot of people dying horribly (as if dying enslaved weren't bad enough). And, no, no one should be called a "cracker" unless they want to be (like Black people who call themselves or their friends "nigga"). And, besides, it's just a word that is offensive to just about everyone-- like "c**t" is to women, but is also to just about everyone.

Besides, why do you want to say it?

I understand the whole slavery part of it and that was a terrible thing no matter how you look at it. However what i dont understand is that if it is such a big deal that a man can lose his job for only somewhat reffering to this word(nappy headed), then it must really offend people. How can these same people then turn to their friend and use the same word.

So if "nappy headed" is such a big deal how can redkneck just be accepted as a way to decribe a certain group of people. I dont really use redkneck in my vocabulary and never use any of those other words, so i could careless whether people use any of these words, but what makes me mad is the double standard that people have, and this is not the double standard of old.

Also i think i stated in my original post about how i never use the N word, but i jsut wanted to know why one is ok and the other is not.

 

[NPhusker]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...ge/5334286.html

In 2003 the NFL implemented the Rooney Rule, which requires teams to interview at least one minority candidate before making a hire.

There are six black head football coaches out of 32 teams in the NFL, and two of those coaches (Tony Dungy of Indianapolis and Lovie Smith of Chicago) met in last season's Super Bowl.

By contrast, there are just six black coaches at 119 Division I-A football programs. The Athletic Directors' Association has discussed the possibility of implementing guidelines similar to the Rooney Rule to possibly improve minority hiring, but there has been little movement in that direction.

This year, only University of Buffalo coach Turner Gill has been interviewed for an opening at a big-name school. Gill has been interviewed for the vacancy at Nebraska, his alma mater.

"We're just asking people to be inclusive and take a process that provides for an opportunity," Keith said. "(First-year Pittsburgh Steelers coach) Mike Tomlin would never had been hired if he had not had an interview, because he certainly wasn't a leading candidate for the Steelers when that job came about.

"But he got the job because of the interview.

"Everybody may have somebody in mind, but it may go through a process in order to arrive at that."

What they said in that article jsut proves what my thoughts of the BCA are. They dont want there to be more black head coaches in football, they want more black headcoaches in the spot light. How come they dont make a big deal about black coaches getting jobs at little schools or D-II schools, cause that is where they need to start. If the BCA wants more black coaches at "big-name schools" they need to spend more time selling these coaches to smaller schools so they can prove that they are worthy of this interview at a big name school.

 

[hskrmama]

Why does everything have to come back to race. My grandfather is pretty racist but i have no problem with any race, but seriously why does this have to be such and issue. I mean most of this country is no longer racist against blacks or mexicans it is becoming more and more racist against white people.

Some people will probably say that i am racist because of this, but can someone tell me why cracker is just an accepted word, but as soon as someone says ******, then everyone just freaks out, and its not like i have a use for the "N" word so i could care less whether people use it or not, but why is it ok for one and not ok for the other.

Another thing is the Don Imus thing, I do not agree with this mans statements at all. You should never talk about women like that, and i dont care if they are black, white, hispanic, korean, or whatever, Imus should have enough respect for women in generall that he doesnt say those things (especially when those girls from that Rutgers team could probably kick his ace). But instead of people coming out and punishing him for being disrespectfull to women, they have to turn it into a racial thing. I guarentee you if Imus were to call the Nebraska Volleyball team a bunch of redkneck farmers, it wouldnt even make the news paper outside of Nebraska.

So the BCA has to complain because there are not enough black head coaches out there. This is probably true because 6 out of 119 is not a good number but i would like to know percentage of black coaches there are as assistants or black coaches of D-II or D-III schools. The BCA wants there to be more black head coaches in college football, but how many black coaches out there are qualified for a D-I heah coaching job at a place like NU or Texas A&M.

You never heared the BCA complain when the UNO job came open and a white coach was hired, but as soon as A&M doesnt interview a minority they get their panties up in a bunch. If they want more black coaches to be considered they need to start at the bottom and work their way up. They want to chance to be the top dog without even putting any work in, before you get a chance at a job like NU or A&M you need to work your way up.

So for me to repect the BCA they need to start petitioning to get some black coaches at some small schools or more as assistants so they can work their way up and not simply complain that when the top programs dont give minorities a chance cause i dont even know how many black coaches out there deserve a chance at a place like A&M.

*edit: This board jsut proved my point, i typed in the actual N word and when i posted, it was censored as ******, but no one has any problem with the word cracker or redkneck.

It's a word that is far, far more offensive and comes out of slavery and a very terrible racist past that resulted in a lot of people dying horribly (as if dying enslaved weren't bad enough). And, no, no one should be called a "cracker" unless they want to be (like Black people who call themselves or their friends "nigga"). And, besides, it's just a word that is offensive to just about everyone-- like "c**t" is to women, but is also to just about everyone.

Besides, why do you want to say it?

I understand the whole slavery part of it and that was a terrible thing no matter how you look at it. However what i dont understand is that if it is such a big deal that a man can lose his job for only somewhat reffering to this word(nappy headed), then it must really offend people. How can these same people then turn to their friend and use the same word.

So if "nappy headed" is such a big deal how can redkneck just be accepted as a way to decribe a certain group of people. I dont really use redkneck in my vocabulary and never use any of those other words, so i could careless whether people use any of these words, but what makes me mad is the double standard that people have, and this is not the double standard of old.

Also i think i stated in my original post about how i never use the N word, but i jsut wanted to know why one is ok and the other is not.

This was a question I asked of a friend of mine, whom is black, she described it like this.

If a black person turns to a black person and says that word, that is like us calling white's, white trash or redneck. She isn't as offended by black people doing it because of the history of the word. And redneck was a term used as humor, not as a way to really describe a certain class of people.

 

[Glendower]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...ge/5334286.html

In 2003 the NFL implemented the Rooney Rule, which requires teams to interview at least one minority candidate before making a hire.

There are six black head football coaches out of 32 teams in the NFL, and two of those coaches (Tony Dungy of Indianapolis and Lovie Smith of Chicago) met in last season's Super Bowl.

By contrast, there are just six black coaches at 119 Division I-A football programs. The Athletic Directors' Association has discussed the possibility of implementing guidelines similar to the Rooney Rule to possibly improve minority hiring, but there has been little movement in that direction.

This year, only University of Buffalo coach Turner Gill has been interviewed for an opening at a big-name school. Gill has been interviewed for the vacancy at Nebraska, his alma mater.

"We're just asking people to be inclusive and take a process that provides for an opportunity," Keith said. "(First-year Pittsburgh Steelers coach) Mike Tomlin would never had been hired if he had not had an interview, because he certainly wasn't a leading candidate for the Steelers when that job came about.

"But he got the job because of the interview.

"Everybody may have somebody in mind, but it may go through a process in order to arrive at that."

What they said in that article jsut proves what my thoughts of the BCA are. They dont want there to be more black head coaches in football, they want more black headcoaches in the spot light. How come they dont make a big deal about black coaches getting jobs at little schools or D-II schools, cause that is where they need to start. If the BCA wants more black coaches at "big-name schools" they need to spend more time selling these coaches to smaller schools so they can prove that they are worthy of this interview at a big name school.

That's a really good point-- same thing about how it's "okay" to use race/class slurs against White people ("Redneck" is definitely a class/SES attack). There isn't really an easy answer for that one (as though OTHER race problems have these great, simple answers ), but it generally is worse for the group in power to use a slur against a minority/marginalized group. I know that it's not like every White person holds office, has a radio show, etc etc. but when a disproportionate number of ANY group is represented in positions of power, then it sure as hell looks that way to everybody else. So talking down or using slurs against people who do not, as a class, have the power to fight back seems really cheap and dirty, I guess.

A lot of slurs against Arabs are okay, though (except for Sand N*****)-- so I don't really understand how it works. I guess it's the same as swearing F**K is bad, screw is not, even though they can be used almost interchangeably. I guess white slurs are like the "screw" and "crap" of the slur world-- you shouldn't use them in polite company, but you won't get fined for it, either

ED: I just realized how the "slurs against Arabs" bit could have come off-- I don't meant that they're "okay" like they're good... I mean that we can use them, hypocritically.

 

[DCHusker]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports...ge/5334286.html

In 2003 the NFL implemented the Rooney Rule, which requires teams to interview at least one minority candidate before making a hire.

There are six black head football coaches out of 32 teams in the NFL, and two of those coaches (Tony Dungy of Indianapolis and Lovie Smith of Chicago) met in last season's Super Bowl.

By contrast, there are just six black coaches at 119 Division I-A football programs. The Athletic Directors' Association has discussed the possibility of implementing guidelines similar to the Rooney Rule to possibly improve minority hiring, but there has been little movement in that direction.

This year, only University of Buffalo coach Turner Gill has been interviewed for an opening at a big-name school. Gill has been interviewed for the vacancy at Nebraska, his alma mater.

"We're just asking people to be inclusive and take a process that provides for an opportunity," Keith said. "(First-year Pittsburgh Steelers coach) Mike Tomlin would never had been hired if he had not had an interview, because he certainly wasn't a leading candidate for the Steelers when that job came about.

"But he got the job because of the interview.

"Everybody may have somebody in mind, but it may go through a process in order to arrive at that."

What they said in that article jsut proves what my thoughts of the BCA are. They dont want there to be more black head coaches in football, they want more black headcoaches in the spot light. How come they dont make a big deal about black coaches getting jobs at little schools or D-II schools, cause that is where they need to start. If the BCA wants more black coaches at "big-name schools" they need to spend more time selling these coaches to smaller schools so they can prove that they are worthy of this interview at a big name school.

Who says the BCA isn't doing a lot to promote more black coaches at the I-AA and DII level? A great deal of the organizations resources are spent there, you just don't hear about those efforts because they aren't in the spotlight the way I-A football is.

The logic behind requiring minority candidate interviews is not only that it immediately raises the chances that more minority candidates will get hired, but that a lot of those young, up and coming black coaches have the chance to get publicity and become know among search firms, so that their names are more in the mix than they otherwise would be.

Your logic that there isn't enough black talent to staff HC jobs just doesn't hold up. There are plenty of great black coordinators around the country, and yet very few make it into HC jobs. As others have said, it's not premeditated discrimination on anyone's part, black candidates just tend to not come up in the coversation. Requiring minority interviews get the names in there, and if those guys still aren't good enough, nobody has to hire them.

 

[HUSKER 37]

Taken from a previous link on this thread: http://bcasports.cstv.com/genrel/120207aaa.html

When a school announces an opening, the BCA contacts its athletic director and president to offer assistance in the search and to suggest candidates.
"We were contacted by Southern Miss almost simultaneously on the day that we sent information to them, so they did reach out to us," Keith said.

The school's list of candidates includes 33 black assistant coaches the organization feels would be successful head coaches.

Among the most notable are Florida co-defensive coordinator Charlie Strong, UCLA offensive coordinator Jay Norvell, West Virginia offensive coordinator Calvin Magee, Virginia defensive coordinator Mike London and South Carolina defensive coordinator Tyrone Nix.

I can see a reason for bending over backwards in an attempt to right many past wrongs in as quick a way as possible...But I wonder how this BCA can exist without having to promote both (or more) races as possible Head Coaches...Can you imagine the outcry if there was an organization (not underground) that promoted hiring only White Coaches?

And NP..

Something in your post (#70?) got me to thinking about something I heard on the radio this morning

about an MSNBC correspondent insulting monkeys? by calling GWB one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkGHp6urvx0

dkGHp6urvx0

I of course, had to look it up on youtube to better see what the local Rock station was referring to..

Reading some of the comments after the Video..Someone said something to the effect..Bad enough she called our President a Monkey..Imagine the outcry if she had been talking about Barack Obama?

I look forward to a day without double standards, but I doubt it will be any time soon.

 

[AR Husker Fan]

I can totally understand why Coach Cook might want to go to certain areas of the girls' locker room. The whole reason I became a volleyball fan was because of those bun-hugger shorts they wore!

Then after a couple of years of "watching the matches" I discovered that Coach Pettit & Co. were putting a very good product out there on that court, and I began paying attention to the game, not the girls.

But the girls - yowza!

Those shorts aren't that comfortable to wear. LOL!

I would bet not. Why can't the girls wear soccer shorts or something? I've never understood that.

Because when you go to dive after a ball, those shorts come up and then the world gets to see your undies.

You say that like it's a bad thing...

When your 16 it's pretty embarrassing.

Oh, I dunno - when I was 16, it didn't embarrass me at all when it happened to the girls...

 

[hskrdedhed]

Taken from a previous link on this thread: http://bcasports.cstv.com/genrel/120207aaa.html

When a school announces an opening, the BCA contacts its athletic director and president to offer assistance in the search and to suggest candidates.
"We were contacted by Southern Miss almost simultaneously on the day that we sent information to them, so they did reach out to us," Keith said.

The school's list of candidates includes 33 black assistant coaches the organization feels would be successful head coaches.

Among the most notable are Florida co-defensive coordinator Charlie Strong, UCLA offensive coordinator Jay Norvell, West Virginia offensive coordinator Calvin Magee, Virginia defensive coordinator Mike London and South Carolina defensive coordinator Tyrone Nix.

I can see a reason for bending over backwards in an attempt to right many past wrongs in as quick a way as possible...But I wonder how this BCA can exist without having to promote both (or more) races as possible Head Coaches...Can you imagine the outcry if there was an organization (not underground) that promoted hiring only White Coaches?

And NP..

Something in your post (#70?) got me to thinking about something I heard on the radio this morning

about an MSNBC correspondent insulting monkeys? by calling GWB one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkGHp6urvx0

dkGHp6urvx0

I of course, had to look it up on youtube to better see what the local Rock station was referring to..

Reading some of the comments after the Video..Someone said something to the effect..Bad enough she called our President a Monkey..Imagine the outcry if she had been talking about Barack Obama?

I look forward to a day without double standards, but I doubt it will be any time soon.

Ask Howard Cosell about what happened to him for using the monkey reference.

 

[knapplc]

I dunno who the BCA is, but I'm pretty sure they can kiss my a$$

This made me laugh. =)

 

[HUSKER 37]

I can totally understand why Coach Cook might want to go to certain areas of the girls' locker room. The whole reason I became a volleyball fan was because of those bun-hugger shorts they wore!

Then after a couple of years of "watching the matches" I discovered that Coach Pettit & Co. were putting a very good product out there on that court, and I began paying attention to the game, not the girls.

But the girls - yowza!

Those shorts aren't that comfortable to wear. LOL!

I would bet not. Why can't the girls wear soccer shorts or something? I've never understood that.

Because when you go to dive after a ball, those shorts come up and then the world gets to see your undies.

You say that like it's a bad thing...

When your 16 it's pretty embarrassing.

Oh, I dunno - when I was 16, it didn't embarrass me at all when it happened to the girls...

As Billy Connolly would say, "Brilliant"

(Wearing a uniform that already looks like panties (and covers up as much) so as not to draw attention to your goodies when you slide).. :laughpound

Now,Thongs!!!! I can get behind

 

[hskrdedhed]

I wish he was filipino. There arent nearly enough college coaches from the Philippines out there.

 

[AR Husker Fan]

***SNIP***
Now,Thongs!!!! I can get behind

Pun intended, I'm assuming?

 

[HUSKER 37]

***SNIP***
Now,Thongs!!!! I can get behind

Pun intended, I'm assuming?

Naturally :worship

 

[hskrmama]

I can totally understand why Coach Cook might want to go to certain areas of the girls' locker room. The whole reason I became a volleyball fan was because of those bun-hugger shorts they wore!

Then after a couple of years of "watching the matches" I discovered that Coach Pettit & Co. were putting a very good product out there on that court, and I began paying attention to the game, not the girls.

But the girls - yowza!

Those shorts aren't that comfortable to wear. LOL!

I would bet not. Why can't the girls wear soccer shorts or something? I've never understood that.

Because when you go to dive after a ball, those shorts come up and then the world gets to see your undies.

You say that like it's a bad thing...

When your 16 it's pretty embarrassing.

Oh, I dunno - when I was 16, it didn't embarrass me at all when it happened to the girls...

Ok well I suppose it wouldn't, and I don't think guys embarrass when it happens to them either.

BTW should we still call you AR or would Mr Sharpie be better??????? HEHEHEHE

 

[AR Husker Fan]

I can totally understand why Coach Cook might want to go to certain areas of the girls' locker room. The whole reason I became a volleyball fan was because of those bun-hugger shorts they wore!

Then after a couple of years of "watching the matches" I discovered that Coach Pettit & Co. were putting a very good product out there on that court, and I began paying attention to the game, not the girls.

But the girls - yowza!

Those shorts aren't that comfortable to wear. LOL!

I would bet not. Why can't the girls wear soccer shorts or something? I've never understood that.

Because when you go to dive after a ball, those shorts come up and then the world gets to see your undies.

You say that like it's a bad thing...

When your 16 it's pretty embarrassing.

Oh, I dunno - when I was 16, it didn't embarrass me at all when it happened to the girls...

Ok well I suppose it wouldn't, and I don't think guys embarrass when it happens to them either.

BTW should we still call you AR or would Mr Sharpie be better??????? HEHEHEHE

Well, I prefer "Stud Muffin", but what the hey...