screw espn, those bumbling idiots are so ignorant about sports it makes me sick...i cant even watch the sports talk shows like around the horn anymore because they dont even know what they're talking about, they just make wild bold statements that aren't even true most of the time. blah.
Is Frazier in the top 2???
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bethelbacker
Special Teams Player
I've watched this countdown progress, and my stomach turns with each new guy being listed, because I know somehow the greatest pure option quarterback in college football history is going to be screwed off the list. I don't see how you can compose this list and not have him in the top 10. I don't even think I'm being biased here, I think that if you know anything about college football, you should be able to realize the impact Frazier had in every game he played. Simply asinine.
I feel your pain. For a while I was glad he wasn't being mentioned, as I assumed that meant he was just higher up the list. Now it's pretty clear that the best player on the greatest team of all time is going to get snubbed.
BTW, Chris Fowler has in the past said the Tommie Frazier is the best college QB he had ever seen.
808Husker in KCMO
All-Conference
Once I saw Johnny Rodgers come up, I knew that Frazier wouldn't make it.
huskerjack23
Starter
how do you have vince young on that list and not tommie frazier? vince young, as good as he was, only won one national title, and no heisman trophy. starting since he was a true freshman, tommie frazier only lost three games and won two national titles! vince young lost twice to oklahoma!
i'm calling it bs, if frazier isn't number 1! he's number one, and there's no comparison.
i'm calling it bs, if frazier isn't number 1! he's number one, and there's no comparison.
Husker Deb
Five-Star Recruit
:yeah
This list sucks. Tommie should be there. I can't imagine who will be 1 and 2. What about Joe Montana? Did he suck at Notre Dame? OJ cannot be on there!
Landlord
Banned
First of all, Vince Young definitely does deserve to be in the top 10. He put up significantly better numbers than Frazier did (season numbers, not career). Also, national titles are NOT significant in determining the best PLAYER. Thirdly, Frazier never won a Heisman trophy either. Vince Young was even more vital to his team than Frazier was, Vince WAS that team. He, almost by himself, raised that team out of the ashes so many times to win against very good opponents.
People like to attribute team success to the worth of a player, which is ridiculous. I'm not saying it's nonsense because it's not accurate, because a lot of the time a team can be successful because of one single player, but when the team doesn't win or if they only get x number of championships, who says it is because one person wasn't good enough?
I am upset that Frazier won't be on the list just like everyone else is, but Young deserves it more than Frazier does, in my as-objective-as-possible opinion.
Cy the Cyclone
Starter
Any poll for the "All Time Greatest College Football" anything that doesn't list Troy Davis is a crock. Troy Davis > all those other stiffs....
BeachBuffs
Starter
If there was a thread on Top Option QB's then you wuld probably see him #1, although I loved Hagan, but I digress, Tommy is too one dimensional for the poll, whereas a guy like Vince could run and throw. I also think Tommy was surrounded by an all around great team whereas Vince was the TEAM.
ChicoHusker
Walk-on
Frazier should be on the list. The run he did in the Fiesta Bowl where he ran over the entire Florida defense and went in for a touchdown should at least have put him in the top 25.
Huskerballz
Starter
Actually, Vince was HALF the TEAM as he only played Offense, I never saw him lining up as a D end too.
Texas also had a sic defense that year which allowed Vince to be the dominant player that he was.
T_O_Bull
All-American
:bonez :hellloooo :hellloooo :bonez
I've seen Red Grange.
I've seen OJ Simpson.
And neither of these guys was close to Tommie Frazier. During his second National Championship season he led a team that was not even tested. They literally crushed the #2 Danny Wurful led, Steve Spurrier coached Florida Gators and the score wasn't as close as the final score indicated.
>>>T_O_B
:bonez :steam :steam :bonez
westgatehusker
Special Teams Player
frazier should be somewhere in the twentys but nowere near the top.
people outside of nebraska Don't think of him as one of "THE" all time greats.
people outside of nebraska Don't think of him as one of "THE" all time greats.