NU Defense Suh needs to crack this list

[dawhuskerkc]

Total Tackles Leaders TACKLES SACKS INTERCEPTIONS

RK PLAYER TEAM SOLO AST TOTAL SACK YDSL INT YDS LONG TD

1 Sean Weatherspoon, LB MIZZ 73 76 149 5.0 -45 3 100 65 2

Frantz Joseph, LB FAU 80 69 149 0.0 -4 0 0 0 0

3 Nick Bellore, LB CMU 73 74 147 0.0 -1 0 0 0 0

4 Mike Tauiliili, LB DUKE 57 84 141 0.0 -3 4 15 14 0

5 Derrick Richardson, S NMSU 61 76 137 0.0 0 1 6 6 0

Scott McKillop, LB PITT 82 55 137 4.0 -37 2 18 18 1

7 Travis Lewis, LB OKLA 68 67 135 3.0 -20 4 108 47 0

8 Alex Wujciak, LB MD 56 77 133 1.0 -9 0 0 0 0

Brit Miller, LB ILL 73 60 133 6.0 -46 1 15 15 0

10 James Laurinaitis, LB OSU 52 78 130 4.0 -28 2 0 0 0

TACKLES SACKS INTERCEPTIONS

RK PLAYER TEAM SOLO AST TOTAL SACK YDSL INT YDS LONG TD

11 Joe Pawelek, LB BAY 55 73 128 0.0 0 6 56 33 0

12 Greg Jones, LB MSU 80 47 127 2.0 -9 0 0 0 0

Cardia Jackson, LB ULM 62 65 127 4.0 -46 2 18 16 0

Gerald McRath, LB USM 70 57 127 1.0 -6 0 0 0 0

15 Justin Winters, LB BUFF 60 66 126 2.0 -15 1 5 5 0

Jason Beauchamp, LB UNLV 54 72 126 2.0 -16 0 0 0 0

17 Quan Sturdivant, LB UNC 87 35 122 2.0 -4 2 89 57 1

18 Davonte Shannon, CB BUFF 70 51 121 0.0 0 1 0 0 0

19 Mike Bryan, LB TLSA 53 66 119 4.0 -31 0 0 0 0

Derek Burrell, LB KENT 50 69 119 4.0 -27 0 0 0 0

TACKLES SACKS INTERCEPTIONS

RK PLAYER TEAM SOLO AST TOTAL SACK YDSL INT YDS LONG TD

Archie Donald, LB TOL 59 60 119 0.0 0 2 28 26 0

22 Ken Lamendola, LB AFA 47 71 118 3.0 -29 1 0 0 0

23 Tyrone McKenzie, LB USF 69 47 116 1.0 -8 1 7 7 0

24 Rennie Curran, LB UGA 64 51 115 3.0 -26 0 0 0 0

Dominic Douglas, LB MSST 48 67 115 0.0 0 1 5 5 0

Antonio Baker, S LT 63 52 115 0.0 0 3 9 3 0

27 Anthony Heygood, LB PUR 65 49 114 0.0 0 1 2 2 0

28 Solomon Elimimian, LB HAW 59 54 113 4.0 -25 0 0 0 0

Greg Laybourn, S ORST 63 50 113 0.0 -2 3 81 53 0

Ben Jacobs, LB FRES 47 66 113 1.0 -2 0 0 0 0

TACKLES SACKS INTERCEPTIONS

RK PLAYER TEAM SOLO AST TOTAL SACK YDSL INT YDS LONG TD

31 Mike Newton, CB BUFF 69 43 112 0.0 0 1 0 0 0

32 Tobe Nwigwe, LB UNT 47 64 111 0.0 0 3 98 97 1

33 Mark Herzlich, LB BC 81 29 110 2.0 -14 6 121 60 2

Adam Vincent, LB UTEP 46 64 110 1.0 0 0 0 0 0

35 Jeff Smart, LB COLO 40 69 109 1.0 -4 0 0 0 0

Vincent Rey, LB DUKE 54 55 109 2.0 -12 1 2 2 0

Joey Hudson, LB M-OH 63 46 109 0.0 0 1 52 52 0

Louis Delmas, S WMU 60 49 109 0.0 0 4 98 47 1

39 Brad Phillips, S NW 55 53 108 1.0 -10 3 4 4 0

Patrick Benoist, LB VAN 47 61 108 2.0 -14 0 0 0 0

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Glossary

SOLO: Unassisted tackles

AST: Assisted tackles

TOTAL: Total tackles

SACK: Total sacks

YDSL: Yards lost on sack

INT: Passes intercepted

YDS: Intercepted returned yards

LONG: Longest interception return

TD: Interceptions returned for touchdowns

Data provided by Elias Sports Bureau

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[HuskerfaninOkieland]

Why does Suh need to crack that list? If anything, one of our LB's or S/DB's need to crack that list. The ranking I would like to see Suh crack, is the number Mudholes he stomps in the opponents QB's.

 

[dawhuskerkc]

For Suh to be great, all he needs to do is crack the top 40 in NCAA Production. +90% of the top 40 tacklers in 08 were Linebackers....Suh and his line mates, if any of them can crack this list the teams defense rockets to the top of NCAA Defenses by rank.

Most of us believe we have better LB'rs than the past several years....but we dont know it, we just feel it.

If NU's DLine and its leader by proxy SUH can knock on the top 40 list of ttl tackels, then NU will be a dominant defense.

Bo's schemes will no doubt advantage NU significantly. Turner Allen & Crick will also be key to shutting opposing offenses down.

This line right now has the kind of potential to be a Great line.....the post script story line, about the 09 season.

If the D line dominates, huskers will dominate opponents.

We will have some idea about just how good we are after VT.

Holding them under 14 offensive points, will be a huge indicator of the team meeting its potential. ( VT may have points from Spcl teams or defense)

huskers should shut out at least 3 teams this year. Hold 4 teams to under 17 points.

Pressure on opposing QB's has not been a B12 hall mark over the last half decade, this line has the potential to be the first line to turn the tide against the spread by asserting pressure on opposing QB's not as a random event, but as standard practice...play in and play out....pressure the QB....

Under those terms our NEW LB's & safetys will get the takeaways and probably contribute defensive points on a regular basis.

keep your eyes on the charts for Natl totl tackles, if any NU lineman is in the top 40 by mid season, and remains unhurt along with his linemates....this team writes some history of its own.

 

[no_name_needed_2001]

For Suh to be great, all he needs to do is crack the top 40 in NCAA Production. +90% of the top 40 tacklers in 08 were Linebackers....Suh and his line mates, if any of them can crack this list the teams defense rockets to the top of NCAA Defenses by rank.

Most of us believe we have better LB'rs than the past several years....but we dont know it, we just feel it.

If NU's DLine and its leader by proxy SUH can knock on the top 40 list of ttl tackels, then NU will be a dominant defense.

Bo's schemes will no doubt advantage NU significantly. Turner Allen & Crick will also be key to shutting opposing offenses down.

This line right now has the kind of potential to be a Great line.....the post script story line, about the 09 season.

If the D line dominates, huskers will dominate opponents.

We will have some idea about just how good we are after VT.

Holding them under 14 offensive points, will be a huge indicator of the team meeting its potential. ( VT may have points from Spcl teams or defense)

huskers should shut out at least 3 teams this year. Hold 4 teams to under 17 points.

Pressure on opposing QB's has not been a B12 hall mark over the last half decade, this line has the potential to be the first line to turn the tide against the spread by asserting pressure on opposing QB's not as a random event, but as standard practice...play in and play out....pressure the QB....

Under those terms our NEW LB's & safetys will get the takeaways and probably contribute defensive points on a regular basis.

keep your eyes on the charts for Natl totl tackles, if any NU lineman is in the top 40 by mid season, and remains unhurt along with his linemates....this team writes some history of its own.

Lofty goals, but I would love to see it happen!

 

[Hunter94]

For Suh to be great, all he needs to do is crack the top 40 in NCAA Production. +90% of the top 40 tacklers in 08 were Linebackers....Suh and his line mates, if any of them can crack this list the teams defense rockets to the top of NCAA Defenses by rank.

Most of us believe we have better LB'rs than the past several years....but we dont know it, we just feel it.

If NU's DLine and its leader by proxy SUH can knock on the top 40 list of ttl tackels, then NU will be a dominant defense.

Bo's schemes will no doubt advantage NU significantly. Turner Allen & Crick will also be key to shutting opposing offenses down.

This line right now has the kind of potential to be a Great line.....the post script story line, about the 09 season.

If the D line dominates, huskers will dominate opponents.

We will have some idea about just how good we are after VT.

Holding them under 14 offensive points, will be a huge indicator of the team meeting its potential. ( VT may have points from Spcl teams or defense)

huskers should shut out at least 3 teams this year. Hold 4 teams to under 17 points.

Pressure on opposing QB's has not been a B12 hall mark over the last half decade, this line has the potential to be the first line to turn the tide against the spread by asserting pressure on opposing QB's not as a random event, but as standard practice...play in and play out....pressure the QB....

Under those terms our NEW LB's & safetys will get the takeaways and probably contribute defensive points on a regular basis.

keep your eyes on the charts for Natl totl tackles, if any NU lineman is in the top 40 by mid season, and remains unhurt along with his linemates....this team writes some history of its own.

i don't know about all of this, but i do feel pretty good about the D this year and would expect a few more turnovers.

 

[huskerjack23]

i don't understand why a DL needs to be in the top 40 for the skers to have a great defense. does anyone know the closest DL to the top 40?

i really just care about pressure and TFL's from the DL. the LB's/S's can take care of the other tackles.

 

[dawhuskerkc]

i don't understand why a DL needs to be in the top 40 for the skers to have a great defense. does anyone know the closest DL to the top 40?

i really just care about pressure and TFL's from the DL. the LB's/S's can take care of the other tackles.

Think about it this way...

If SUh alone or Suh and Crick combined make this list as the sum of eachs efforts, the other goals outlined in the post will most likely come true.

the % of all tackles in a given season is X.... control of the line of scrimmage accounts for some % of X....when the DL handles a larger % of the totl tackels its illustrating control over the LOS to a greater degree than otherwise.

Pressure against the spread, has been missing in the b12, not withstanding schemes or design.

We'll know that the spreads been cracked when a defense like this one, can make the list. Any other dlineman that does it will also be on a leading defense.

The combined totals of the two interior tackels numbers would work as well, to provide the result sought.

Suh represents the great opportunity he was close last year, under the best conditions Crick & the D ends, not allowing double teams of 1 guy because the other guy is guaranteed to get there.... with pressure....everything changes.

It says the QB of the offense must be under pressure to a greater extent, than when the QB has time to get rid of the ball LB's and DB's to rack up the tackels. LB's will make more takeaways under these conditions because a hurried QB will make more Bad decisions, his recvrs will have less time to get to thier spots, shrinking the field for LB's.

It also means the DL is making the run stops within a few yards + or - of the los.

people....this potential works as a goal, and shifts odds across so many aspects of a given game.

the wild card here is the referees and thier choice or not to allow holding. In the last several seasons the holding in college balll has been a real boon to the offense....seems like everyplay the refs are making the choices which influence the games outcomes.

 

[RedDenver]

As others have said, it's unrealistic for any member of the DL to crack the top 40 tacklers. I'd much rather have a LB make the list, since that's who's supposed to get the most tackles in a defense. If Suh did crack the top 40, it probably means the rest of the D sucks really, really bad and he had to make all the plays even down field. So I'm hoping Fisher or May can break into that list, and Suh will be a disruptive force regardless of the tackle numbers.

 

[dawhuskerkc]

As others have said, it's unrealistic for any member of the DL to crack the top 40 tacklers. I'd much rather have a LB make the list, since that's who's supposed to get the most tackles in a defense. If Suh did crack the top 40, it probably means the rest of the D sucks really, really bad and he had to make all the plays even down field. So I'm hoping Fisher or May can break into that list, and Suh will be a disruptive force regardless of the tackle numbers.

your wrong...but common perception is, that it is not doable.

here is the ncaa data on leaders in tackels behind the LOS...

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year...v=IA&dest=O

notice how this list is mostly DL with a few LB's spread throughout, Cal and Kansas each have one LB which illustrate the schemes thier coaches used to produce those stats.

here is NU's rank for total defense last year.

Rank Name Games Plays Yds Avg TDs Ydspgm

55 Nebraska 13 803 4548 5.66 49 349.85

803 plays total that would equate to 320 total stops across the DL....which would put at least 1 player on or near the top 40 list.

remember a defense has relatively speaking, as much field to attack.....as the offense, when tackels for loss becomes a focal point of play.

 

[huskerjack23]

cal runs a 3-4 defense, so that LB is mainly a pass rusher.

i don't understand what you're saying. there isn't a single DL in the top 100 in total tackles. and only one in the top 100 in solo tackles, and he's 96th. Suh has less total tackles over the course of his career than the top tackler all of last year.

TFL's are important for DL. occupying blockers is important for DL.

 

[dawhuskerkc]

cal runs a 3-4 defense, so that LB is mainly a pass rusher.

i don't understand what you're saying. there isn't a single DL in the top 100 in total tackles. and only one in the top 100 in solo tackles, and he's 96th. Suh has less total tackles over the course of his career than the top tackler all of last year.

TFL's are important for DL. occupying blockers is important for DL.

yes understand all that, but that isnt this year...my comments are positioned for the coming year....will suh crick combo make it and if they do the implications are....top 10 defense. defense wins games....SUH is being heralded as the Best of the beasts....lets see if he alone or with crick, can make that list..

Here is the total Defense leaders from 08, the thing that is noticable is TCU and the # of plays they had to defend because there D shut a lot of folks down...In my opinion this defense has that kind of opportunity, shrink the play count with superior line play. Attack is a function of strategy....lbers making all the plays is a different strategy, and it has not led to a shut down of spread offenses. Change the strategy....change the outcome.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year...v=IA&dest=O

BTW here is an historical link to all Huskers drafted....no stats but found it a good historical reminder.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/t...-1&round=-1

 

[VA Husker Fan]

cal runs a 3-4 defense, so that LB is mainly a pass rusher.

i don't understand what you're saying. there isn't a single DL in the top 100 in total tackles. and only one in the top 100 in solo tackles, and he's 96th. Suh has less total tackles over the course of his career than the top tackler all of last year.

TFL's are important for DL. occupying blockers is important for DL.

yes understand all that, but that isnt this year...my comments are positioned for the coming year....will suh crick combo make it and if they do the implications are....top 10 defense. defense wins games....SUH is being heralded as the Best of the beasts....lets see if he alone or with crick, can make that list..

Here is the total Defense leaders from 08, the thing that is noticable is TCU and the # of plays they had to defend because there D shut a lot of folks down...In my opinion this defense has that kind of opportunity, shrink the play count with superior line play. Attack is a function of strategy....lbers making all the plays is a different strategy, and it has not led to a shut down of spread offenses. Change the strategy....change the outcome.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year...v=IA&dest=O

BTW here is an historical link to all Huskers drafted....no stats but found it a good historical reminder.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/t...-1&round=-1

:facepalm:

 

[RedDenver]

As others have said, it's unrealistic for any member of the DL to crack the top 40 tacklers. I'd much rather have a LB make the list, since that's who's supposed to get the most tackles in a defense. If Suh did crack the top 40, it probably means the rest of the D sucks really, really bad and he had to make all the plays even down field. So I'm hoping Fisher or May can break into that list, and Suh will be a disruptive force regardless of the tackle numbers.

your wrong...but common perception is, that it is not doable.

here is the ncaa data on leaders in tackels behind the LOS...

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year...v=IA&dest=O

notice how this list is mostly DL with a few LB's spread throughout, Cal and Kansas each have one LB which illustrate the schemes thier coaches used to produce those stats.

here is NU's rank for total defense last year.

Rank Name Games Plays Yds Avg TDs Ydspgm

55 Nebraska 13 803 4548 5.66 49 349.85

803 plays total that would equate to 320 total stops across the DL....which would put at least 1 player on or near the top 40 list.

remember a defense has relatively speaking, as much field to attack.....as the offense, when tackels for loss becomes a focal point of play.

Actually, you're wrong - there wasn't a single defensive lineman in the top 100 tacklers from last year: NCAA stats. So not only did no one do it, but nobody even came remotely close. A quick look at the 3 previous years 2005-2007 showed that no DL had cracked the top 100 in any of those years either. Previous to that only top 35 were listed in 2003-2004 and no DL appeared there. Individual total tackles were not kept online previous to 2003, as far as I can tell.

You then changed to tackles for loss to prove the wrong point, which was originally that Suh needs to be in the top 40 total tacklers. Here's the relevant line from your original post, "If NU's DLine and its leader by proxy SUH can knock on the top 40 list of ttl tackels, then NU will be a dominant defense." You'd be more convincing in your argument if you stayed to the same topic and didn't try switching on each post.

P.S. The word is spelled "tackles" not "tackels". Thought I'd mention it since you've misspelled it several times.