Refs in football

[broganreynik]

I would have to say that SEC officials are the biggest joke in sports right up there with NBA refs. For example on the Alabama's blocked field goal of Tennesee's, Terrence Cody took off his helmet even though the play was still live, he should have been flagged for unsportsmanlike and the Vols should have had the chance for another kick, just another clear example of the SEC making sure that there will be an SEC team in the BCS game this year.

The SEC has addressed this. The flag should have been thrown. But since that penalty is treated as a dead ball foul, it's assessed after the result of the play. The game can't end on a defensive penalty, but since Tennessee already kicked and missed, Alabama had assumed possession. Therefore it was an "offensive" penalty. Game over.

 

[BeachBuffs]

I would have to say that SEC officials are the biggest joke in sports right up there with NBA refs. For example on the Alabama's blocked field goal of Tennesee's, Terrence Cody took off his helmet even though the play was still live, he should have been flagged for unsportsmanlike and the Vols should have had the chance for another kick, just another clear example of the SEC making sure that there will be an SEC team in the BCS game this year.

The SEC has addressed this. The flag should have been thrown. But since that penalty is treated as a dead ball foul, it's assessed after the result of the play. The game can't end on a defensive penalty, but since Tennessee already kicked and missed, Alabama had assumed possession. Therefore it was an "offensive" penalty. Game over.

Ahhh, I gotcha, my mistake, ty for the correction.

 

[broganreynik]

I would have to say that SEC officials are the biggest joke in sports right up there with NBA refs. For example on the Alabama's blocked field goal of Tennesee's, Terrence Cody took off his helmet even though the play was still live, he should have been flagged for unsportsmanlike and the Vols should have had the chance for another kick, just another clear example of the SEC making sure that there will be an SEC team in the BCS game this year.

The SEC has addressed this. The flag should have been thrown. But since that penalty is treated as a dead ball foul, it's assessed after the result of the play. The game can't end on a defensive penalty, but since Tennessee already kicked and missed, Alabama had assumed possession. Therefore it was an "offensive" penalty. Game over.

Ahhh, I gotcha, my mistake, ty for the correction.

No problemo.

 

[Glendower]

To be honest, Saturday was the first well officiated game I've seen all season (out of all games, not just Nebraska games). The only questionable call I saw was on the ping pong ball interception, it appeared the Iowa State defender's knee was down when he got ahold of the ball. Even that though was bang bang, and not entirely conclusive. Of course the rest of the season it's been ridiculously bad.

I'm pretty sure you can catch a ball while down (unless you went out of bounds), you just can't advance the ball (for obvious reasons). That was just excellent heads-up play.

But yeah, I saw some bad officiating this weekend all around (USC game, anyone? That horrible face mask that tore the receiver's helmet off right in front of the official?). It's strange how there have been so many hyper-reactive calls there have been (Suh's hand coming down on the top of the QB's helmet) and how many dangerous/reckless moves have been overlooked (Robinson, I think, being tackled by his headgear). And, no, not just against the huskers, but all teams (our players have 'gotten away' with a lot, too).

Maybe this isn't due so much to officiating but how many angles there are and how much detail there is in modern broadcasting. We see a lot more than we used to and with greater clarity (and I was able to rewind to the non-replayed helmet tackle of Robinson during the next commercial to watch it a couple of times to see that it really looked like he was grabbed by the back of his helmet or earhole and pulled down... he didn't wrap his head up, he grabbed his helmet). A few years ago, that wouldn't have been so easy to see, wider angle views, maybe no camera at that vantage point, and HD all factor into what we're seeing.

So maybe there aren't more fish, the holes in our netting have just gotten a lot smaller.

I know that. He advanced the ball 16 yards after catching it...

Oh, I thought they gave him a touch back-after it was all said and done and they started it on the 20.

That game is such a blurry nightmare.

 

[ICT HSKR 10]

To be honest, Saturday was the first well officiated game I've seen all season (out of all games, not just Nebraska games). The only questionable call I saw was on the ping pong ball interception, it appeared the Iowa State defender's knee was down when he got ahold of the ball. Even that though was bang bang, and not entirely conclusive. Of course the rest of the season it's been ridiculously bad.

How do you think the ref's feel knowing that every could be reviewed and corrected. I see it as taking the pressure off of them making the correct call the first time. Ref's are human and aren't going to get everything right, but I wish college would go to the system the NFL uses where you only get a certain number of challenges. It seems like every other play we're stopping for replay to look at it, it makes long games even longer!

 

[Enhance]

Big 12 schools are the most penalized schools in all of college football.

Are we dirtier than other schools? No. Do we not play fundamentally sound football? No.

It all has to do with who is in charge of the Big 12 officiating crews. The guys on USC did an entire segment devoted to this topic a few weeks ago. Apparently, the Big 12 refs are graded harder than any other refs in the nation. Their games are reviewed heavily every week, and they are downgraded for any missed calls they don't catch. Get downgraded enough, well you are likely out of a job or you are going to be punished i.e. going to some really bad bowl game at the end of the year.

Why does this cause a problem? The refs are calling even the closest of calls for fear of being downgraded.

Why are they missing so many calls/blowing a lot of penalties (i.e. the two intentional grounding ones against TT)? I think it is because they are so wrapped up in trying to make sure they don't miss anything that they are missing even the simplest and most fundamental calls.

Generally, fans prefer to have Big 12 refs officiating non-con games because they might have a little bit of a bias towards the Big 12 team. It is getting so bad, that many are hoping for different conference officials just so we aren't subjected to the Big 12 refs any more.