Prince going pro??

If he gets a high grade, he may be best served to go pro this year. Unless the NFL owners pull their heads out, there may not be a 2011 season, and guys who would be entering the draft for that season may get hosed.

 
Again, you are turning into a school vs. money debate. You are missing a major aspect of the decision, which is the experience of playing college football. That will not "always be there" because your eligibility is done once you declare. Prince could be part of a special defense and hopefully a Big 12 Championship and BCS bowl next season. Not everyone would choose guaranteed money over that.

 
HANC said:
Get used to it guys.......Once Bo has established NU as a true defensive power agian, this will happen year after year. We have been seeing guys leave early from around the country for many years and even here with a few in recent years.....this is something we will have to deal with as fans from here on out...

This should NOT be moved to rumorville, because it is NOT a rumor. 1620 the zone has reported that Prince is "testing the waters" to see where he will go. This is fact, not rumor. We are discussing on whether or not he should or shouldn't go.

IMO, if he is a 1st rounder or early 2nd, he should go. I agree, school will always be there, but if he gets hurt, school will be all he has left. If he is projected late 2nd or later, then he should stay and try to improve.

** This rumor.....he may not be the only D player "testing the waters"...... I wasn't given any names, but was told today by a student at UNL that we could lose a couple of underclassmen. Throw me to the wolves for not producing names or sources, but I said it was RUMOR.......(and yes, I know that UNL isn't in session so kids aren't on campus, so please don't hit me with that one)
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Crick would be my guess, but he's already said more than once that he will come back :dunno Unless your friend was referring to players transferring, I have no idea who he's talking about :snacks:

 
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Some people value the experience of playing big-time college football more than the million dollar paycheck. Look at Jake Locker. He can't improve his draft stock because he was already going to go in the top ten, maybe even #1. He's coming back to play college football.

A million dollars is tough to pass up, but for a lot of players, the joy of college football memories last a lot longer than the joy of getting the big house with the pool in back. Lots of players who decide on the latter regret it pretty quickly. Look at Shonn Greene. From what I've heard, it sounds like he may be regretting his decision to leave early. Last year he was playing in front of thousands of fans who wore green to support their star player in one of the program's most memorable wins of all-time (upsetting #3 Penn St. in Iowa City). Now, he's a back-up on the Jets who gets about seven carries a game. He's got the Prada shoes and the big house, but he passed up a chance to take Iowa to their sixth Rose Bowl and possibly their first Rose Bowl win since the '50s. Instead, he's working full-time on an average team backing up this guy:

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umm, jake locker also signed a minor league contract with the los angeles angels...his situation is a little more complicated than just wanting to "value" college football...hes already sitting on a pile of cash and has a solid back-up plan.

 
JTRain:

I agree with you on the school-experience-championship possibilities...... it really depends on what an individual's priorities are...an earlier post said something maybe Prince isn't a big $$$ guy (speculation).....

At age 40, like myself, I look back on my college years and would love to go back and do more...but believe me, I had a chance to stay and get an even "higher" education for free and after 4 years was READY to get out and start earning $$$$, and we aren't talking about the kind of $$$$$ the NFL throws around.

** Plus, as Strigori posted, I almost mentioned the fact that the 2011 season is still up in the air. We all "know" or hope that the NFL will get it figured out, but it's happened before. The guys in the 2011 may get screwed. This was a legit topic on ESPN radio (mike and mike) about this topic this morning. In fact, they were talking about why Bill Cowher should come back this year, because it is a REAL possiblitiy that he may not have a chance in 2011.

 
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JTrain said:
Some people value the experience of playing big-time college football more than the million dollar paycheck. Look at Jake Locker. He can't improve his draft stock because he was already going to go in the top ten, maybe even #1. He's coming back to play college football.

A million dollars is tough to pass up, but for a lot of players, the joy of college football memories last a lot longer than the joy of getting the big house with the pool in back. Lots of players who decide on the latter regret it pretty quickly. Look at Shonn Greene. From what I've heard, it sounds like he may be regretting his decision to leave early. Last year he was playing in front of thousands of fans who wore green to support their star player in one of the program's most memorable wins of all-time (upsetting #3 Penn St. in Iowa City). Now, he's a back-up on the Jets who gets about seven carries a game. He's got the Prada shoes and the big house, but he passed up a chance to take Iowa to their sixth Rose Bowl and possibly their first Rose Bowl win since the '50s. Instead, he's working full-time on an average team backing up this guy:
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umm, jake locker also signed a minor league contract with the los angeles angels...his situation is a little more complicated than just wanting to "value" college football...hes already sitting on a pile of cash and has a solid back-up plan.
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We're talking about a few hundred thousand versus somewhere around $10 million per year. You can get what Locker got in his baseball contract with a football insurance policy anyway. And Locker has said football will be his first focus. So I don't think the baseball contract really explains anything. He was projected as the possible first pick, and many including McShay think the Rams wanted him. So simply the experience of playing his senior season, competing for the Pac-10 title, etc. is probably his primary motivation for sticking around.

 
JTrain said:
mmmtodd said:
JTrain said:
Some people value the experience of playing big-time college football more than the million dollar paycheck. Look at Jake Locker. He can't improve his draft stock because he was already going to go in the top ten, maybe even #1. He's coming back to play college football.

A million dollars is tough to pass up, but for a lot of players, the joy of college football memories last a lot longer than the joy of getting the big house with the pool in back. Lots of players who decide on the latter regret it pretty quickly. Look at Shonn Greene. From what I've heard, it sounds like he may be regretting his decision to leave early. Last year he was playing in front of thousands of fans who wore green to support their star player in one of the program's most memorable wins of all-time (upsetting #3 Penn St. in Iowa City). Now, he's a back-up on the Jets who gets about seven carries a game. He's got the Prada shoes and the big house, but he passed up a chance to take Iowa to their sixth Rose Bowl and possibly their first Rose Bowl win since the '50s. Instead, he's working full-time on an average team backing up this guy:
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umm, jake locker also signed a minor league contract with the los angeles angels...his situation is a little more complicated than just wanting to "value" college football...hes already sitting on a pile of cash and has a solid back-up plan.
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We're talking about a few hundred thousand versus somewhere around $10 million per year. You can get what Locker got in his baseball contract with a football insurance policy anyway. And Locker has said football will be his first focus. So I don't think the baseball contract really explains anything. He was projected as the possible first pick, and many including McShay think the Rams wanted him. So simply the experience of playing his senior season, competing for the Pac-10 title, etc. is probably his primary motivation for sticking around.
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Locker might have just wanted to avoid the train wreck that is the Rams too.

 
really? having several hundred thousand dollars in the bank, NOW, wouldnt make it easier to stay one more year as a pizza eating college student when he knows he could be making that $10 mil? you really think that didnt effect the decision?

and no one is pointing out the elephant in the room, that has been making all of these guys decisions twice as edgy...a little thing call the Collective Bargaining agreement coming due, which the general consensus is going to completely change the way rookie contracts are structured.

Good read here about locker, and athletes leaving early in general.

Bleacher Report- Why Locker Should Stay

4. Money Is No Issue
A five-tool center fielder with a 95 MPH fastball (no joke), Locker was projected as a first-round baseball talent when he graduated high school in 2006. Yet, with his mind already made up to play football at Washington, he made a formal announcement to all the MLB teams considering him with their initial pick and told them not to waste it on him.

Three years later, the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim were convinced that it was time to take another run at Locker. They felt confident enough in the quarterback to spend a 10th round selection on him in Major League Baseball’s amateur draft in June, then aggressively pursued his name on a piece of paper. In August, Locker signed with the Angels and earned himself a six-figure salary in the process. The Angels now hold Locker’s contractual rights for six years, and will be paying him accordingly during that time.

Though Locker signed a professional contract, his status as an amateur on the gridiron was not impacted. Well, not entirely at least.

Because he never hired an agent, Locker didn’t violate his collegiate eligibility, according to rules set in place by the NCAA. But by signing the contract and earning himself a salary, Locker did cost himself an athletic scholarship. Which, in turn, made him into arguably the greatest walk-on in all of college football.

Even in spite of the fact that he paid his own way for a year, and would be doing so again next year, Locker is still earning more money than most of us could begin to fathom. Which should be enough to keep him from making the paycheck his primary focus when deciding between returning to school or turning pro.

Experts like to reference the threat of an uncapped year in the NFL, and the potential capping of rookie salaries in 2011 as means for Locker to jump ship prematurely. But with money already in the bank, guaranteed to arrive over the next six years whether he plays football or not, Locker need not worry about his financial situation in the short term.

If anything, Locker’s focus should be on answering long term questions. For instance, what is more important? One gigantic contract and limited success in the NFL? Or multiple big contracts and a prolonged NFL career? I think we all know the answer to that one.
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JTrain said:
Again, you are turning into a school vs. money debate. You are missing a major aspect of the decision, which is the experience of playing college football. That will not "always be there" because your eligibility is done once you declare. Prince could be part of a special defense and hopefully a Big 12 Championship and BCS bowl next season. Not everyone would choose guaranteed money over that.
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I agree with you J. This is the best time of his life. I don't care how many Bentleys he drives, I can guarantee that it will not make him a happier person. I reckon most people who win the lottery end up miserable inside. After you buy a 10 million dollar house and have a 200k car, everything you come across the rest of your day just doesn't make the grade. When we buy a 42 inch flat panel tv, we look at it with excitement and think "look what I just bought." If you make 3 mill a year you think, "I'm gonna call that guy I bought this from and have him put one in the can so I can watch myself on Sportscenter while I sh!t and get another for the closet. I saw a deal on Lavar Arrington where he had like 56 of those things in his house. I bet he has a great appreciation for each and every one. :sarcasm

There is nothing wrong with finishing school and having to go get a job like most folks. If he gets hurt, he'll kick himself for a while, but in the end it will be one hell of a character building experience, whether he comes back from it or not.

 
Money guaranteed to arrive over the next six years? My goodness, how does that work? What did they draft him/pay him to do - play college football and then go to the NFL?

 
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No way he leaves. Move to rumorville please.
i dont think he does either, but it is the last uncapped year for rookies...

 
Illnino:

I have no idea who he was talking about, but he did mention the "defensive backfield" losing a few underclassmen...... obviously Prince came to mind (and fruition with the talk today about him testing the waters), but I have NO IDEA who else in the dbfield would even be ready to go..... Dennard nor Gomes would be ready imo.

** remember, I said it was all rumor and it definately should belong in rumorville.....I really don't believe that anyone will leave, but maybe Prince.

 
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