ESPN coverage of U$$$$$$C...(UPDATE) USC MUSt Forfit 2004 NC title and vacate 2005 season

sd said:
this will be tough to crawl out from under. maybe USC should move to the SEC, plenty of teams there could give them advice on how to rebuild, only to be foiled by sanctions once again.
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Or stay with the new SWC 16 - every team but Baylor in the old SWC got hit with sanctions.

 
Taking away wins in seasons that are five years past is lame. :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:

T_O_B

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huskernation0201 said:
so this means during usc's dynasty they won a total of "0" national titles.
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:laughpound :laughpound

i went on some of the USC boards and lurked around and most of what i saw was

'the NCAA hates us'

'trojan pride no matter what'

'it was a witch hunt'

'we'll come back stronger'

'how come i didnt get paid too'

and so forth and so forth

seems like they are all in denial at this point........

 
this is pretty harsh, although to bull makes a good point about taking away wins and championships, the day after a championship, no one cares except the victor, and by fall even they have forgotten. but it will take usc some time to get back from this, it is a heavy blow to a program that has lost its footing in their conference, which will become even more competitive.

 
Regardless of opinions on whether it was too harsh, the NCAA wants to make an example of USC. USC was one of the strongest football teams in the nation, yet they broke some of the most serious of infractions. Is it harsh? Yes. Is it too harsh? No, but only if you look at it from the wider standpoint. These types of sanctions will make any other school think much harder and much longer about doing what USC did.

 
Enhance89 said:
Regardless of opinions on whether it was too harsh, the NCAA wants to make an example of USC. USC was one of the strongest football teams in the nation, yet they broke some of the most serious of infractions. Is it harsh? Yes. Is it too harsh? No, but only if you look at it from the wider standpoint. These types of sanctions will make any other school think much harder and much longer about doing what USC did.
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just so you know, i wasn't saying it was too harsh, i just don't think people understand the gravity of these sanctions, an example has been made and the affect will be seen long after.

 
irieboy8 said:
huskernation0201 said:
so this means during usc's dynasty they won a total of "0" national titles.
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:laughpound :laughpound

i went on some of the USC boards and lurked around and most of what i saw was

'the NCAA hates us'

'trojan pride no matter what'

'it was a witch hunt'

'we'll come back stronger'

'how come i didnt get paid too'

and so forth and so forth

seems like they are all in denial at this point........
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They have been in denial since the story broke. First the Althletic department nor boosters were responsible so nobody could know what was going on. Then even if they did know it wasn't like they were getting payed to play there since nobody knew anything plus agents are just paying you to leave early. Then whatever else they want to spin as since they had players getting paid while playing but a combination of the AD turning a blind eye and it not being to play directly from their school or to play for the school meant it was kosher. Which lands them to today, utterly surprised that anyone would punish them for something they didn't do. It was only bush's parents, and how was the school to know?

Funny as hell.

 
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this is unrelated, but has to do with the Pac 10. some speculate that the Pac 10 picked up colorado to collapse the house of cards we call the Big XII, in anticipation of NU also being picked away. The strategy being that when the south teams, sans baylor, see those two teams leaving, they will believe the big 12 will soon collapse and flee to the Pac 10, but i think it would be funny if they stayed in the big 12, rebuilt, and the Pac 10 got stuck with Colorado. it would be one weak conference, especially with the state of USC.

 
T_O_Bull said:
Taking away wins in seasons that are five years past is lame. :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:

T_O_B

:cop: :cop: :cop:
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I'm sorry TOB, but you know what else is lame? Handing out cash, cars, and houses to gain the players that won those games five years ago. The NCAA can't sit back and say, "Man, you guys got us back in '04 gosh darn it."

 
I See Red People said:
T_O_Bull said:
Taking away wins in seasons that are five years past is lame. :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:

T_O_B

:cop: :cop: :cop:
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I'm sorry TOB, but you know what else is lame? Handing out cash, cars, and houses to gain the players that won those games five years ago. The NCAA can't sit back and say, "Man, you guys got us back in '04 gosh darn it."
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i thought he said that because it it largely meaningless, no one cares what happened 5 years ago, it is all about the upcoming fall, always.

 
Wasnt reggie bush one of the main factors in this whole deal. I would debate that without him USC does not win a NC. So in that regard I think the NCAA has the right to do away with the wins.

 
There has been a major affect on the university and the fans.

Yesterday I bought tickets to the Notre Dame game , of course they packaged them with Virginia, but Notre Dame is a big game out here. Still being able to buy them is unheard of.

Tommy is hurting and it will only get worse. This is as tough of a blow as Alabama took a few years ago, if not more so.

They did not get off light by any means.

 
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