Deja Vu
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BIGREDIOWAN
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Zoogies, great post! I think if Taylor doesn't get hurt or Zac doesn't get hurt, we're not having this discussion right now. We would've won 2 of the 3 we lost with a healthy Taylor. You can't say we would've beat Texass, he was healthy in that game along with Zac so that's just a loss plain and simple. You CAN argue the point that we lost to aTm and OU by a very close margin and with a healthy Taylor we don't lose those games and are in the Fiesta Bowl with a Big XII Championship in our trophy collection. I hope like hell all the rumors with Taylor are false. With a healthy Taylor and our defense I love our chances against any team on any gameday. Just think how much Taylor will improve next year and the year after. I think we'll miss Helu next season, but Burkhead has shown he is more than capable of doing what he has to for the team.
kchusker_chris
All-American
All valid questions. I think in about the time it takes t-mart to go from 1st to high gear we could come up with just as many that could be answered with "watson sucks, he has to go" though 
Personally, I don't really care what happens with the offense. If Bo cleans house, I'll be happy. If he cans Watson and hires some junior high coach to lead the offense, I'll be happy. Even if he just makes major changes to the structure of the current staff I'll be fairly happy. I'll trust Bo to make the right decision when it comes to the change. The only thing that will REALLY bother me, is if he maintains status quo. If he does nothing, I can tell you exactly where we'll be next year. The only thing consistent about this offense (I won't even call it Watson's because who knows who's it is) is their inability to perform when called upon. Put that on Bo, put it on Watson, put it on the position coaches...I don't care. Just put it on someone or something, and make a change. Make some attempt to fix the weak link in an otherwise solid chain. Just don't sit back and "trust the process" anymore.
Honestly, a huge part of me would like to see us beat Washington 6-3. I'm not sure what it will take to force Bo's hand...but it doesn't seem like enough has happened thus far, and frankly I don't want to see another season go by with similar results. Maybe we take a step back and Zoogies is throwing out the "I told you so's" left and right...but sometimes you have to take a step back before you can take a few forward. This could have been done last season. It can be done this season. Don't want unti next season when we're in the SAME position to finally do something.
Personally, I don't really care what happens with the offense. If Bo cleans house, I'll be happy. If he cans Watson and hires some junior high coach to lead the offense, I'll be happy. Even if he just makes major changes to the structure of the current staff I'll be fairly happy. I'll trust Bo to make the right decision when it comes to the change. The only thing that will REALLY bother me, is if he maintains status quo. If he does nothing, I can tell you exactly where we'll be next year. The only thing consistent about this offense (I won't even call it Watson's because who knows who's it is) is their inability to perform when called upon. Put that on Bo, put it on Watson, put it on the position coaches...I don't care. Just put it on someone or something, and make a change. Make some attempt to fix the weak link in an otherwise solid chain. Just don't sit back and "trust the process" anymore.
Honestly, a huge part of me would like to see us beat Washington 6-3. I'm not sure what it will take to force Bo's hand...but it doesn't seem like enough has happened thus far, and frankly I don't want to see another season go by with similar results. Maybe we take a step back and Zoogies is throwing out the "I told you so's" left and right...but sometimes you have to take a step back before you can take a few forward. This could have been done last season. It can be done this season. Don't want unti next season when we're in the SAME position to finally do something.
junior4949
All-American
:yeah
I have sensed a little friction between Bo and Watson over which QB should even be in the game. I think we saw this last year also when Cody got a couple of starts. It's pretty difficult to blame anyone other than the head coach who has all say over all assistants. All I know is that Bama won a NC last year with an offense that ranked in the mid-40's. Our offense ranked higher than this. If people want to blame Watson for our fumbling problems and inability to catch the ball, by all means continue. However, I'm not convinced this is his responsibility. If people want to blame Watson for our OL lining up incorrectly, false starting, etc.; by all means continue. Again, I'm not convinced this is his responsibility. We lead the country in fumbles. We lead the Big 12 in penalties, and we have done so ever since this staff has been here. Does all this fall on Watson's shoulders?
I'm not a Watson lover or hater. However, I just don't understand how we can throw him under the bus for the Texas loss. He called a great game but our receivers didn't finish.
kchusker_chris
All-American
Alabama was consistent, we aren't. Alabama played 7-9 games against top 30 defenses, we didn't. I'd gladly give up a few of the points/yards we took from Idaho, K. State, Washington, W. Kentucky, Colorado, etc whigh gave us this 35th ranked offense for just 20 yards and 3 points against OU. Just doesn't work that way. Watson can exploit 90+ ranked defenses, no one will argue with you there. Fortunately for him in the Big12 we get to play 6-8 of them a year. The Big10? Not so much.
74Hunter
Banned
Your honor I bring into evidence South Dakota State and Texas.
I, too, am tired of the excuses, it is time for SOMETHING to change. Seeing his past performances, I have come to the conclusion that Watson is not the OC to get us to the next level.
ESPY
Starter
NO! Don't bring the Texas debacle into this again. We had the right plays and good passes from our QBs to get TDs and most importantly the win that day. The Texas curse just happened to turn our hands into oil-covered bricks that day.
knapplc
International Man of Mystery
The problem with a message board is that it makes discussions too black-and-white. I'm no proponent of Watson's, but I'm not ready to call for his ouster yet, either (I think I did in a thread many weeks ago, but I retract that. And I'd been drinking).
The reality is that there are issues on offense that we can lay at Watson's feet. But there are also issues that are not his fault, and circumstances beyond his control. zoogies did a good job of summarizing a lot of this. Gotta give props when they're due.
carlfense
Heisman Trophy Winner
And kchusker_chris knocks it out of the park.All valid questions. I think in about the time it takes t-mart to go from 1st to high gear we could come up with just as many that could be answered with "watson sucks, he has to go" though
Personally, I don't really care what happens with the offense. If Bo cleans house, I'll be happy. If he cans Watson and hires some junior high coach to lead the offense, I'll be happy. Even if he just makes major changes to the structure of the current staff I'll be fairly happy. I'll trust Bo to make the right decision when it comes to the change. The only thing that will REALLY bother me, is if he maintains status quo. If he does nothing, I can tell you exactly where we'll be next year. The only thing consistent about this offense (I won't even call it Watson's because who knows who's it is) is their inability to perform when called upon. Put that on Bo, put it on Watson, put it on the position coaches...I don't care. Just put it on someone or something, and make a change. Make some attempt to fix the weak link in an otherwise solid chain. Just don't sit back and "trust the process" anymore.
Honestly, a huge part of me would like to see us beat Washington 6-3. I'm not sure what it will take to force Bo's hand...but it doesn't seem like enough has happened thus far, and frankly I don't want to see another season go by with similar results. Maybe we take a step back and Zoogies is throwing out the "I told you so's" left and right...but sometimes you have to take a step back before you can take a few forward. This could have been done last season. It can be done this season. Don't want unti next season when we're in the SAME position to finally do something.
Do something. FIX IT. I don't care how . . . but the status quo will not get it done. Ultimately, it's on Bo.
Sparker
Starter
To the original question: I don't think it's going to be a repeat of last year's performance. The last two years we saw a steady improvement over the year and they were very similar in many ways. This year just seems different. Something is off, and I don't expect an amazing performance again, but I still think we'll win.
Ziebol
All-Conference
The Oklahoma game was the game that got under my skin from an offensive point of view. Dialing up passes when the run and wildcat were obviously working. If Wats could have dialed up just a couple run plays instead of those passes we win. Turnovers defiantly cost us, but some a lot of the plays especially in 2nd half definatly frustrated me. I'm looking forward to see how he uses the offensive playbook against UW. This should defiantly be a ground and pound game where the passes will eventually open up.
ESPY
Starter
That's fair. But, I think if there's any part of the team that really wants to make a statement, it will be the offense. No doubt the Huskies will be better prepared for us this time around, but if we're healthy (Martinez) and execute like we should, methinks we'll see some fireworks.